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  • VypreVypre Member Posts: 180
    Originally posted by MrDDT

    Originally posted by Miles-Prower


    I still think the game is fake. Regardless of what they do to prove otherwise. Advertising on Facebook? Please. Facebook is the biggest load of useless stuff I've ever seen. For instance "Can this pickle get more fans than Nickleback?"


    We shall see when it is released.





    ~Miles "Tails" Prower out! Catch me if you can!

     

    Because if they have a Facebook page that means = fake?

    http://www.facebook.com/Blizzard?v=info

    Touche.  Those that are sheep to big company developers and publishers are probably more prone to be cautious, but at the same time are probably more prone to have little brain bandwidth to understanding the dedication of indie to smaller studios that are just as dedicated and have more to lose by disregarding any outlet of communication and remaining visible and in-touch; CCP, Aventurine, Icarus, Star Vault, Xsyon.

    Striving for Silver Stars since Gold is so effeminate.

  • GlavianGlavian Member Posts: 32

    I suspect this is more like Dark & Light was a few years ago.

     

    They had a great concept and had a huge fan base. They took pre-orders and beta tested, then when the game was released it sucked. It was barely playable and people wanted their money back. I don't think many people got it, if any.

     

    It wasnt really vaporware, but it did not do what they said it would either.

  • MargulisMargulis Member CommonPosts: 1,614
    Originally posted by Glavian


    I suspect this is more like Dark & Light was a few years ago.
     
    They had a great concept and had a huge fan base. They took pre-orders and beta tested, then when the game was released it sucked. It was barely playable and people wanted their money back. I don't think many people got it, if any.
     
    It wasnt really vaporware, but it did not do what they said it would either.

     

    I think you're probably right.  That's my guess as to why the devs refuse to make in-game videos or post new screenshots with the UI or anything.

  • DelanorDelanor Member Posts: 659


    Thusfar this game is no more than a list of features, some art work and screen shots, and a webforum run by volunteers. I would say the game is far from ready and I am guessing that pre-lude will be a game that only contains the raw basics that an mmo needs to be playable and is awaiting further expansions it will need to be somewhat attractive to a larger audience. At least that is the message I get from the information they are giving on their website and forum. They are not saying it but that seems to be the reason why they want to keep a low profile. You should only pre-order or buy the game at launch when you want to support this game that needs some more time to become what you hope it can become. In other words, when you are willing to run the risk of playing a paid beta test.

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    Delanor

  • VirtusVirtus Member Posts: 492


    jsut a side note: Cheese is mold :)


    The features list is more then 80% done.


    No vids out because they are still tweaking the latest speed tree/grass


     

  • DelanorDelanor Member Posts: 659

    Originally posted by Virtus


    jsut a side note: Cheese is mold :)


    The features list is more then 80% done.


    No vids out because they are still tweaking the latest speed tree/grass


     


    That is nice, but still, with all the features of the feature list done and in the game there is still no way to be sure whether the launched product is a full featured mmo, because the feature list mainly shows what sets Xsyon apart from other mmo's. To take it to the extreme: when everyting not on the feature list will not be in the game either you would end up with a horrible mmo. Of course it will not be that extreme, but those not willing to take the risk are waiting to see what will become of this game.

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    Delanor

  • MrDDTMrDDT Member UncommonPosts: 276

    Originally posted by Delanor

    Originally posted by Virtus


    jsut a side note: Cheese is mold :)


    The features list is more then 80% done.


    No vids out because they are still tweaking the latest speed tree/grass


     


    That is nice, but still, with all the features of the feature list done and in the game there is still no way to be sure whether the launched product is a full featured mmo, because the feature list mainly shows what sets Xsyon apart from other mmo's. To take it to the extreme: when everyting not on the feature list will not be in the game either you would end up with a horrible mmo. Of course it will not be that extreme, but those not willing to take the risk are waiting to see what will become of this game.


     


    So pretty much what you are saying is that there is no way for any game to prove before hand if a game is a full featured mmo.


     


    Thanks there buddy.


     


    Tell you what, why dont you wait, and see instead of just guessing one way or the other?

    -MrDDT

  • DelanorDelanor Member Posts: 659

    Originally posted by MrDDT

    Originally posted by Delanor


    Originally posted by Virtus


    jsut a side note: Cheese is mold :)


    The features list is more then 80% done.


    No vids out because they are still tweaking the latest speed tree/grass


     


    That is nice, but still, with all the features of the feature list done and in the game there is still no way to be sure whether the launched product is a full featured mmo, because the feature list mainly shows what sets Xsyon apart from other mmo's. To take it to the extreme: when everyting not on the feature list will not be in the game either you would end up with a horrible mmo. Of course it will not be that extreme, but those not willing to take the risk are waiting to see what will become of this game.


     


    So pretty much what you are saying is that there is no way for any game to prove before hand if a game is a full featured mmo.


     


    Thanks there buddy.


     


    Tell you what, why dont you wait, and see instead of just guessing one way or the other?


     No, I am not. Don't know why you are saying that, but you sound a bit irritated and telling me to shut up. Well thanks.

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    Delanor

  • Mad+DogMad+Dog Member UncommonPosts: 785

    Still dont prove anything...

    Sorry i dont just beleive internet people Ive never met just like the real world.

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  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247

    Originally posted by Virtus



    http://www.xsyon.com/forums/6-general-discussion/11123-a-little-insight-and-a-personal-confession

    You're not really 'confessing' anything, unless there actually was someone that didn't already think you were a shill.

    If it helps you any, not many feel it's a scam. Most have expressed that the company's approach and practices com across as shady and that they may be promising more than they think can be delivered.

    There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
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  • PlutonicwoesPlutonicwoes Member UncommonPosts: 343

    And I have a magical working version of Final Fantasy 20 from the future.

    I also have as much proof I have it as you guys do that Xyson exists.  

    I just cannot comprehend why a dev team would go out of their way to make their game look like vaporware/scam

  • XianthosXianthos Member Posts: 723

    Originally posted by Plutonicwoes



    And I have a magical working version of Final Fantasy 20 from the future.

    I also have as much proof I have it as you guys do that Xyson exists.  

    I just cannot comprehend why a dev team would go out of their way to make their game look like vaporware/scam

    Because it is scam? Ive never seen another game which was released or in development where you had less proves that it actually exist.

    To make a video of about 5 mins takes about 5 mins? And dont come they have to focus on development.  Its just a cheap excuse. Dont say there is no one who got 5 mins to make a video?

    Let the great scamming start!

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  • MrDDTMrDDT Member UncommonPosts: 276

    Originally posted by Xianthos



    Originally posted by Plutonicwoes



    And I have a magical working version of Final Fantasy 20 from the future.

    I also have as much proof I have it as you guys do that Xyson exists.  

    I just cannot comprehend why a dev team would go out of their way to make their game look like vaporware/scam

    Because it is scam? Ive never seen another game which was released or in development where you had less proves that it actually exist.

    To make a video of about 5 mins takes about 5 mins? And dont come they have to focus on development.  Its just a cheap excuse. Dont say there is no one who got 5 mins to make a video?

    Let the great scamming start!

     

    You want to make a real bet that its not a scam? Put your money where your mouth is, we can use a 3rd party to hold the money.

    -MrDDT

  • PlutonicwoesPlutonicwoes Member UncommonPosts: 343

    Easy fanboi.  We're just asking for proof of life.

    Why on earth would I bet on if a game? You sir take this a bit seriously.

    Everyone is still only asking for what everyone has been asking for since this game 'magically' appeared. 

    One single proof of life.  One.

  • darker70darker70 Member UncommonPosts: 804

    First off i'm no fanboi of the game just been made aware of it's development and i hope it's legit but here's the kicker,if this is such a fake why on Gods green earth have they named the Dev team who mostly seemed to have worked on The Tommorow War and incidently all seem to be Russian and pro coders.

    Pretty odd to put names to a team if in the future the game is fake wouldn't these devs never work again or be maligned as NP3 which with DnL remained mainly incognito and myself and many others suffered the biggest MO scam ever eg:why was the latest patch delayed?

    Np3's answer sorry but an outbreak of fever on Reunion Island delayed any codeing or game breaking bugs been fixed,a classic !!! image

    p>
  • VirtusVirtus Member Posts: 492

    Originally posted by Loktofeit



    Originally posted by Virtus



    http://www.xsyon.com/forums/6-general-discussion/11123-a-little-insight-and-a-personal-confession

    You're not really 'confessing' anything, unless there actually was someone that didn't already think you were a shill.

    If it helps you any, not many feel it's a scam. Most have expressed that the company's approach and practices com across as shady and that they may be promising more than they think can be delivered.

     

    Read up from here to your post. You were saying?

  • It's all speculation at this point of time. Join the waiting game. Sooner or later, we will know for sure.

  • darker70darker70 Member UncommonPosts: 804

    Originally posted by Virtus

    Originally posted by Loktofeit



    Originally posted by Virtus



    http://www.xsyon.com/forums/6-general-discussion/11123-a-little-insight-and-a-personal-confession

    You're not really 'confessing' anything, unless there actually was someone that didn't already think you were a shill.

    If it helps you any, not many feel it's a scam. Most have expressed that the company's approach and practices com across as shady and that they may be promising more than they think can be delivered.

     

    Read up from here to your post. You were saying?

    Yeah  Virtus i saw ur post after mine,may i ask what game u worked on with Jooky per chance was it Roma Victor  if so that was prob the most sand boxed game ever which ain't a bad thing image

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  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247

    Originally posted by Virtus



    Originally posted by Loktofeit



    Originally posted by Virtus



    http://www.xsyon.com/forums/6-general-discussion/11123-a-little-insight-and-a-personal-confession

    You're not really 'confessing' anything, unless there actually was someone that didn't already think you were a shill.

    If it helps you any, not many feel it's a scam. Most have expressed that the company's approach and practices com across as shady and that they may be promising more than they think can be delivered.

     

    Read up from here to your post. You were saying?

    Unless you were pointing out your inability to differentiate between "not many" and "no one" I am not sure what you are referring to.

    There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
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  • XianthosXianthos Member Posts: 723

    Originally posted by MrDDT



    Originally posted by Xianthos



    Originally posted by Plutonicwoes



    And I have a magical working version of Final Fantasy 20 from the future.

    I also have as much proof I have it as you guys do that Xyson exists.  

    I just cannot comprehend why a dev team would go out of their way to make their game look like vaporware/scam

    Because it is scam? Ive never seen another game which was released or in development where you had less proves that it actually exist.

    To make a video of about 5 mins takes about 5 mins? And dont come they have to focus on development.  Its just a cheap excuse. Dont say there is no one who got 5 mins to make a video?

    Let the great scamming start!

     

    You want to make a real bet that its not a scam? Put your money where your mouth is, we can use a 3rd party to hold the money.

     

    You sir need some real life and should take too serios everything. There is still no proof that this aint scamm. And a bet wont change this fact. Like it or not.

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  • osmundaosmunda Member Posts: 1,087

    If Xson is fake..."

    then we will find out soon enough.  Either that, or we'll suddenly find out the people let in are under a NDA that hasn't been mentioned yet (or that they have decided to postpone the opening of beta testing).

    Either way I find it disturbing that we are 2 weeks out from the projected release date and the total of our knowledge from in game is the login screen

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558

    Originally posted by darker70

    First off i'm no fanboi of the game just been made aware of it's development and i hope it's legit but here's the kicker,if this is such a fake why on Gods green earth have they named the Dev team who mostly seemed to have worked on The Tommorow War and incidently all seem to be Russian and pro coders.

    Pretty odd to put names to a team if in the future the game is fake wouldn't these devs never work again or be maligned as NP3 which with DnL remained mainly incognito and myself and many others suffered the biggest MO scam ever eg:why was the latest patch delayed?

    Np3's answer sorry but an outbreak of fever on Reunion Island delayed any codeing or game breaking bugs been fixed,a classic !!! image

     mo isnt a scam.

  • osmundaosmunda Member Posts: 1,087

    Originally posted by downtoearth

    Originally posted by darker70

    First off i'm no fanboi of the game just been made aware of it's development and i hope it's legit but here's the kicker,if this is such a fake why on Gods green earth have they named the Dev team who mostly seemed to have worked on The Tommorow War and incidently all seem to be Russian and pro coders.

    Pretty odd to put names to a team if in the future the game is fake wouldn't these devs never work again or be maligned as NP3 which with DnL remained mainly incognito and myself and many others suffered the biggest MO scam ever eg:why was the latest patch delayed?

    Np3's answer sorry but an outbreak of fever on Reunion Island delayed any codeing or game breaking bugs been fixed,a classic !!! image

     mo isnt a scam.

     I admire your enthusiasm in defending Mortal Online, but I don't think darker70 was actually criticizing MO.  I think he meant MMO and was still referring to Dark and Light, since he was mentioning DnL immediately before and DnL's developer (NPCube) in the next sentence.  While one of Mortal online's harshest critics (some might even say troll) appears to be a major fan of Xsyon ( to the point of preordering) than does not seem to apply to darker70.

  • Got_Game_TVGot_Game_TV Member UncommonPosts: 262

    Originally posted by osmunda

     

    Either way I find it disturbing that we are 2 weeks out from the projected release date and the total of our knowledge from in game is the login screen

    This.

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