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Citius
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The only part of this game I enjoyed was the intro scene. Other than that I was very unimpressed.
The graphics are dated, the character models are poor and it's just not fun. I don't mean to flame but I was really looking forward to FE. I got a free-30 days and I couldn't even make it past a week. I have another week yet I can't seem to make myself log on. Performance wise the game ran very smoothly but the look of it was a tad choppy. For example, I ran into a large amount of enemies that just didn't aggro or would be a bit glitchy.
I thought FE could be that game to fill the MMO void in my life, however, I was wrong.
Edit* Oh yes I really did want to enjoy this game because the setting is awesome
Played: World of Warcraft (5Y), WarHammer (3M), Anarchy Online, Runescape (5+Y), Lord of the Rings Online, Runes of Magic, City of Heroes/Villains, Dungeons and Dragons Online, Fallen Earth (1M)
Currently Playing: Guild Wars
Currently Trying: None
Taking a Break From: EVE Online
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I was really hoping FE would fill the void in my MMO Life. However what I've been reading the end game PvP just isn't there. Wonder if it will get upgraded. I think I just got to spoiled by DAoC RvR and can't find a replacement.
Yeah, me too. However, I did manage to get two months of playtime in before I kicked it to the curb. Animations felt clunky, combat is painfully boring, the environment was just a bit too tidy for a Post-Apoc world, and the PvP -- well, don't get me started on THAT.
Such a great idea with a very mediocre execution. Too bad, really. Could have been so much better.
I can remember watching a trailer right before the game was released, about a dude who had to pull a mission, and because of the missions worth, he was going to use a bullet for the job. See, bullets were made out to be a rare commodity in this post apoc world.
I quit a week after I made 8k rounds of rifle and pistol ammo on a character I created 4 days earlier, realising that this isnt the post apoc world I was looking for. Things were just too easy. Nothing was rare, or hard to get. Nothing was hard earned, including vehicles, it all just took time. Read a book and log out. Blech.
A poorly disguised themepark, fooling everyone into thinking they were playing the next best sandbox.
PAST: UO-SWG-DAOC-WOW-DDO-VG-AOC-WAR-FE-DFO-LOTRO-RIFT-GW2
PRESENT: Nothing
FUTURE: ESO
Heh
My revelation was that Icarus must have decided that a few things survived the "fall" -- barbers, dry cleaners, and irons. Everyone looks a bit too groomed and pressed to be believable in a post-apoc world, IMO. Where are the grimy faces and shredded clothing? Everyone looks a bit too well-fed. I want to see ribs, damnit! Even the NPCs with open sores don't look particularly "sick". They look like they got in a fight with a Hollywood makeup artist.
Oh well, I guess it's too much to ask for realism.
If you guys are going to waste your subs, at least give one to me. I know that those 30 day keys had a few more keys attached to that for friend purposes. Could one of you grace me with one? Thanks.
Will be updated later.
From a lot of the threads I've read on these boards, it seems it filled a void for quite a few players.
But for me, I just couldn't get over moving like a brick turd. /shrug And yes I thought the graphics were dated as well.
guys I can understand your pain and I do agree with the comment of 'its a standard MMO forumla masked as a sandbox' (paraphrase).
Having said that, exactly how many MMO out there right now in offical release have more 'up to the date' graphics?
I mean come on, by a large margin MMO's are always a generation behind on graphics.
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i played in the open beta for 10-15 days i think and yeah the game seems bland, the enviroment , character modles , armor seem a bit poor but it was not that bad like some of the other junk i have tried. I would like to see more scifi games but this one has less customization than anarchy online that came out in 2001. Ao is like 10x better than this you would expect to get more options in the future as time passes and tech is more up to date but it seems these guys miss the buss and are back in 1995.
Since this is primarily a bashing thread and I actually love the game, I will keep my comments on the pessimistic side for the sake of staying on topic.
The past couple days I've run into a lot of high level quests (level 45 - 46 quests) that are bugged in a way. Apart from that, grouping at high levels for the group missions is a lot tougher then I would have expected. Most of what I've seen is people grouping to get into PvP battles or something clan specific. Don't get me wrong, I don't find that the population is low in S3, because it isn't... its just most of those in S3 are doing other things then what I'm doing (being as I'm not currently in a clan on one of my 46s.)
This makes some of the group quests virtually impossible to do in a modest time frame. I know, I know, group quests are made for groups, but if you aren't in a clan, striking up a PUG isn't so easy, especially since I have no idea how far region chat expands so someone who wants to join me might have to ride 20 minutes just to get to me.
The animations aren't that bad, honestly in comparison to other games, I really can't complain. I spend most of my time riding a horse, shooting a gun or swinging a sword which is pretty on par with most FPS's. I would complain that some of the mutations and skills have very close if not identical icons for abilities which really makes it tough to distinguish.
Anyways, I hope you guys liked my complaints, as you won't hear them often. The game is by far the best new game I've played for years.
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Well yes, it IS a bashing thread on MMORPG.com -- anywhere else it would be a discussion thread. See, on MMORPG.com forums, anything your say that isn't in-line with the beliefs of a game's fanboys is considered bashing. I'm surprised you haven't figured that out yet.
i always stop reading when i see "graphics are dated", which eventually means "my comp can't play it at a decent FPS, but i'm not spending money".
sorry it does.
WoW biggest MMO - dated graphics of 5 years, still can't have open world PvP (see wintergrasp) and thats with dated graphics, aerial combat has since been cancelled for that part. (another reason why they moved the argent tournament to icecrown instead of under dalaran which was where it was supposed to have been).
FF7 - great RPG still, even if the graphics are highly dated.
People who complain about graphics with MMORPGs are just amusing. Look at AoC great graphics crap gameplay... and now what mirrors instanced parts of the game if there's too many players in one area... haha... awesome
yeah Fallen Earth has already had one graphic overhaul and another one is around the corner, it looks fine for what it does (1 server giant world, less instances than STO, AoC, WAR, WoW put together).
yeah... i'll stay here for the time being
"nothing actually matters, we're just slightly evolved monkeys clinging to a dying piece of rock hurtling through space waiting for our eventual death." - Frankie Boyle, Mock The Week
I was hoping this game would have been better. I still have the logo as my background though..
Oh I've been around long enough to know the difference between a bashing thread and a discussion. Bashing usually consists of one sided opinions or "I heard" comments or "It seems like". In all honesty my post was the only one I consider to have merit as far as actual gameplay problems go that I've actually experienced in-game this week. Not two months ago. Not a beta. Recently. I'm not saying that your reasons are not legitimate... but games go a lot deeper then graphics and animations to me.
I mean I'm not going to get into it all because its all personal opinion. I've run through the game more than once and I enjoy it. Plenty of others won't. Everyone has their own reason to like or dislike. Not everyone has the same experience as I do, not everyone has a PC that can run the game, and not everyone has the patience. I understand this, and I understood the purpose of the thread, and so, from a current and happy player I thought I would chime in with some legitimate reasons from someone who is still currently subscribed and why I would have cause to dislike the game.
My computer has no problem playing the game at the top level, yet the graphics weren't impressive. When I use to play WoW I was still amazed by some the the landscape graphics. Hell even some of the mobs looked great.
The thing that put it way down for me was the character movement and unresponsive mobs. It is a good idea that seems like it still needs work.
EVE has 1 server giant world and has some amazing graphics. So uh, your last point is invalid
Played: World of Warcraft (5Y), WarHammer (3M), Anarchy Online, Runescape (5+Y), Lord of the Rings Online, Runes of Magic, City of Heroes/Villains, Dungeons and Dragons Online, Fallen Earth (1M)
Currently Playing: Guild Wars
Currently Trying: None
Taking a Break From: EVE Online
Then it appears this is an agree to disagree matter because even on max setting WoW looks horrid. The amazing detailed landscape and character models and customization even on MEDIUM far outplays most games on the market currently. I'd need to see a screenshot from you to know what you are seeing in comparison to what I am seeing.
I made it past three weeks but only because for most of that time I didn't invest any points in skills and was relying on mutations - which are generally gimped.
Once I pumped some points into pistols, dodge and armour, the game just became ridiculously easy and a few levels later I lost interest. The only fun I had was solo'ing group content because that's the only content that provided any challenge.
@ the OP and the graphics and animations disappointment. My thinking is that stuff is the least of this craftastic pve-centric and ease-of-play game's issues. Though a game that I had really hoped were a much more developed player-driven, sandboxy ecosystem.
to the graphic complainers -graphics dont make a good game
this s a inde company u repeat for those blind idots A INDIE COMPANY. if u compare what they have did for the ammount of money they have as a indie company then u can see but u to blinded by bias to see past this.
the graphics for it are ok, they are improving it as they have time. content is added on a way more regular bases unlike say WoW.combat is ok since they buildt the game engine themself unlike cryptic that bought their engine yet still make crappy games.FE is a crating/pve/quest game not a ffa gankfest like darkfall. the economy is competley player driven everything is made by players. if first thing on your mind is what type of endgame it has then u probaly wont be able to enjoy the game so u know what game u should go back to then.FE is also one of onlly 2 games where moderators or such have normal converstaions with their player base.even the devs talk to people. when was in freinds and family alpha think it was i was chating with a dev for solid hour about the game. FE currently has best communit ofy any game out that ive tried or played.
in todays mmo market here are your choices of what to play WoW clones or dumbed down games like WoW,indie developer games, mass produced mmo trash games from companies like cryptic, average none unique game from ncsoft type company, or last but not least super bad launches but playable after a year or more companies like funcom.
bashing a game is fine but bashingg it when 99% of your reasons are invaild thou is kinda stupid.
Ok this is very much a matter of taste. I personally find the graphics of WoW to be insulting and disgusting so bad is my experience when seeing its graphics I havent even been able to bring myself to play it. Aion is the same, I am a grown man and I am not playing a cartoon.
Now, clearly you can tell my emotion behind cartoon graphics is pretty strong, strong enough to make the art choices of a graphics engine have more impact on me then the quality of technology used.
having said that, FE is DirectX 10 (now granted it looks like high end direct x 9) and most MMO are not even mid directx 9 in technical quality.
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How is it invalid?
I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
"You have the right not to be killed"
What he means is that Eve doesn't have to sacrafice graphic quality just to have a huge seamless universe. Of course he is simply trying to manipulate the facts since Eve is not a land game so it can take quite a few shortcuts in world design. Comparing apples to screwdrivers and whatnot.
I really don't get the dated graphics comment. They seem rather good to me. I can see some not caring for the art design because it appears bland in areas especially compared to some other mmos and out there that have some rather stunning areas you can explore such as AoC, VG, LotR, and Aion, but far as just comparing graphics within themself the game seems pretty impressive to me. Far as art design goes I suppose that's a matter of personal preference. It is supposed to be the apocalypse after all.
I will agree that animations are a bit clunky though. That much I can see. Still annoys me how characters jump in the game.
Overall, I'm really enjoying the game. There are certainly areas that can be improved but it's the most fun I've had in an mmo for some time now.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
I play FE and the graphics are very good, I have played most of the top MMO's and far too many free ones and FE is close to the top of the list. I run the game at medium settings and still they look nice.
Object detailing and environment items such as wall etc are very high detail and its nice to actually be able to read signs, posters and even labels on stuff in an mmo.
I can't help thinking that most of the complaints stem from the sometimes repetetive and bland desert environment of S1. Once you hit S2 the scenery begins to change and trees become more numerous. On entering S3 I was amazed by the contrast. The whole area is wooded and the woods are probably the most lifelike I have ever experienced in and online game.
On item graphics, such as armour, you won't find 24ft high pink shoulder pads or swords you could take on a surfing trip but what you do get is appropriate and mostly realistic equipment in keeping with a game set in the real world.
The character generator is, as some have said, a little basic compared to some recent releases (most of which fail in many other departments) but it is adequate and it is possible to create something 'non generic' if you take time over it.
I agree with the animation complaints, some are horrible especially jumping and the death animations of mobs is quite ridiculous sometimes.