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cc170cc170 Member Posts: 146

Okay, so I am having problems with my current PC, and we think the only way to fix it is to replace the motherboard. So, I think it will just be better to buy a whole new PC. I am looking at a Velocity Micro. This is the PC I am thinking about getting. http://www.velocitymicro.com/wizard.php?iid=157&edit=1&oldwizarditems=19581%2C25861%2C29633%2C29632%2C19584%2C25297%2C29703%2C19602%2C19580%2C19650%2C19590%2C25866%2C19614%2C19617%2C19609%2C20571%2C19597%2C19654%2C19604%2C28830%2C25247%2C29455%2C19632%2C19642%2C28925%2C29488%2C19611%2C25245%2C19639%2C19578%2C19640%2C19587%2C19592%2C19663%2C20565

Tell me what you think, and if you know of something better for around that same price, or cheaper let me know. I can't afford any more than that.

Thank you.

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  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856

    mm?is your computer that bad?can you say what the issue is?what computer is it!intel ,amd!

    graphic card size ,ram speed?with these 3 thing we can say if its worth it to fiddle with your system

    because frankly the system you shown is a low system you are better off continuing shopping!it take a lot of abuse or broken fan to burn a mobo!

  • BadSpockBadSpock Member UncommonPosts: 7,979

    That is a terrible PC for a terrible price.

    Do yourself a favor -

    Go to Tigerdirect.com

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5611886&Sku=G180-0123

     

    Same price, 4x the PC.

  • cc170cc170 Member Posts: 146

    Well, a few a weeks ago my comptuer started freezing and slowing, I thought it was a hard drive issue, so I ran out bought recovery discs and a new HDD. Came home, and the installed the HDD. The BIOS recognized the HDD and DVD drive half the time, and didn't the other half. So, I figured the SATA controller on the motherboard died, so I ordered the part from newegg, and installed it yesterday. Now, the BIOS isn't recognizing the HDD and DVD, but the RAID BIOS is, and I can't get the recovery discs to work, it keeps giving me an error. So, I figured, it is either the motherboard dying or bad recovery discs.

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  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856

    probably the bios itself!by adding a new component!you might have to change the bios setting for it to detect the new part

    did you do as the instruction said (either the booklet or went online to the  mobo website AND the new part you baught site to make sure everything is set-up properlly in the bios

    the setting you had before were before your new part you might have to fiddle the bios for everything to work properlly

    normally the site of the new part should say what to change .

    did you google your part number and bios setting(exemple:1234-5678 bios setting ?)

    it should come up with recommendation in various site!change one at a time and only the one pertaining to your issue !

  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856

    as for the issue before all this happened it might be just the battery on the motherboard!

    (you do change this once in a while right!)

    or bios i would say to reinstall bios without the new part if it doesnt work reinstall bios with the new part!

    like i say its often very small issue but it give no end of problem!

    you ll need a diskette(3. something )if you got an oldersystem that cant update bios with a usb drive

  • jammertk10jammertk10 Member CommonPosts: 88

    That really is a bad deal, if you know how, or have a buddy who's computer oriented, I'd order the parts off of tigerdirect or newegg, you can build an amazing PC for sub $900.

     

    Ex. 

    Mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157181R&cm_re=H55m_pro-_-13-157-181R-_-Product

    CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115221&cm_re=i3_540-_-19-115-221-_-Product

    Graphics - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131330&cm_re=5770-_-14-131-330-_-Product

    Power Supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006&Tpk=Corsair%20CMPSU-750TX (109.99 w/o rebate 89.99 w/)

    Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112239&Tpk=k62

    Hard Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136490

    Memory - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220435

    Disk Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135205

    Keyboard + Mouse - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201035

    (OPTIONAL) Monitor - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254042

     

    Total Cost W/ Monitor = 972.90 w/o tax

    W/O Monitor = 862.91

     

     

    IMO a MUCH better machine with a much better deal, even has a Blu-Ray player in there with a Graphics/CPU/Mobo/Coolercase/Larger HD, well you get the idea

     

     

    Hope this helped,

     

    Beo





     




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  • cc170cc170 Member Posts: 146

    Thanks for your help, but when I added it all up in the cart on newegg, it came out to 942 dollars. (Minus keyboard, mouse, and monitor.) Also, I haven't put together a PC before, and I don't know how hard it is, or if I have the time to do it.

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  • NeVeRLiFtNeVeRLiFt Member UncommonPosts: 380

    Component

    Item

    Price

    Processor

    AMD Athlon II X4 630

    $108.99

    Motherboard

    Gigabyte GA-770TA-UD3

    $94.99

    Memory

    Crucial 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR3-1333

    $57.99

    Graphics

    XFX Radeon HD 5670

    $99.99

    Storage

    Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB

    $74.99

    Samsung SH-S223L

    $26.99

    Audio

    Integrated

    $0

    Enclosure

    Antec NSK 4482B w/380W PSU

    $79.99

    Total

    Buy this complete system at Newegg

    $543.93

    The best computer parts for the money right now.

    Will give the best bang for the buck. ;)

    And if you want to step it up a notch without breaking the bank go for these two upgrades.


    Memory

    Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333

    $104.99

    Graphics

    XFX Radeon HD 5770

    $159.99

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  • jammertk10jammertk10 Member CommonPosts: 88

    No problem, always a pleasure, to help. And, sorry about the math I was doing it with a calculator tabbing in and out so I guess I messed up somewhere along the way. Good luck in finding yourself a good machine!

     

    Best regards, 

    Beo

     

    EDIT: The post above me, is brilliant.

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  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519

    Pick one of these that fits your price range (they have better parts than the company you listed)

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2032280010%2050012046&name=CyberpowerPC

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  • BadSpockBadSpock Member UncommonPosts: 7,979

    Tigerdirect price still beats the newegg for 8gb ddr3 mem w/ quad core i5 proc and 1gb vid card w/ 1tb hard drive...

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5611886&Sku=G180-0123

     

    879.99

  • 2slow4flo2slow4flo Member Posts: 30

    Originally posted by heerobya



    Tigerdirect price still beats the newegg for 8gb ddr3 mem w/ quad core i5 proc and 1gb vid card w/ 1tb hard drive...

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5611886&Sku=G180-0123

     

    879.99

    Pretty shit processor and graphics card.

     

    I'd suggest you to get:

    Power supply: Cougar CM 550

    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-770TA-UD3

    Processor: Amd Phenom II 945 C3 (95w TDP) //// If you know how to and want to overclock get a Phenom II 965 C3 (125W Tdp)

    Cooler: Scythe Shuriken Rev B. ///// for the 965 get a Scythe Yasya

    Ram: G.Skill Dimm Kit 4gb pc3-12800U cl9-9-9-24 (ddr3-1600)

    Hdd: 2x Samsung SpinPoint F3 500GB, SATA II (HD502HJ)

    Graphics card: Radeon 5850 (whichever one you like / is availible)

    Case: Lancool K62

     

    Best performance per money for gaming in the 900-1000$ range, though I don't know your prices in the US.

  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332

    Originally posted by heerobya



    That is a terrible PC for a terrible price.

    Do yourself a favor -

    Go to Tigerdirect.com

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5611886&Sku=G180-0123

     

    Same price, 4x the PC.

    I check out Tigerdirect a lot since i am in Canada.This deal here is pretty good,only limitation i see is the PCIExpress is not 2.0,but i am sure neither is the OP's posted system.

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  • BadSpockBadSpock Member UncommonPosts: 7,979

    Originally posted by 2slow4flo



    Originally posted by heerobya



    Tigerdirect price still beats the newegg for 8gb ddr3 mem w/ quad core i5 proc and 1gb vid card w/ 1tb hard drive...

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5611886&Sku=G180-0123

     

    879.99

    Pretty shit processor and graphics card.

    ATI Radeon HD 5750 and Core i5-750 are crap?

    Huh.... ok....

  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856

    he meant they arent top of the line so this mean on the long run they ll die quicker support wise

    check me i took amd top of the line slot the one amd will push a long while the third version

    intell 1156 slot isnt their top of the line its like the am2 for amd

    why settle for 1156(am2)when you know the futtur is the 1333 slot or whatever its called(am3 in amd)

    these small issue dont look like much but in 3 year when you dicide to change porcessor for a new one

    you will curse us if we recommend a 1156 .itsa good for company but not for gamer in the long term

  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148Member CommonPosts: 6,690

    Originally posted by heerobya

    Originally posted by 2slow4flo



    Originally posted by heerobya



    Tigerdirect price still beats the newegg for 8gb ddr3 mem w/ quad core i5 proc and 1gb vid card w/ 1tb hard drive...

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5611886&Sku=G180-0123

     

    879.99

    Pretty shit processor and graphics card.

    ATI Radeon HD 5750 and Core i5-750 are crap?

    Huh.... ok....

     I have the same PC and this runs like a champ. No issues whatsoever.

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  • 2slow4flo2slow4flo Member Posts: 30

    Originally posted by heerobya



    Originally posted by 2slow4flo



    Originally posted by heerobya



    Tigerdirect price still beats the newegg for 8gb ddr3 mem w/ quad core i5 proc and 1gb vid card w/ 1tb hard drive...

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5611886&Sku=G180-0123

     

    879.99

    Pretty shit processor and graphics card.

    ATI Radeon HD 5750 and Core i5-750 are crap?

    Huh.... ok....

    My setup with a ATI Radeon HD 5850 and a Phenom II x4 945 beats your shit!

    So yes, compared to what I wrote they ARE crap.

  • 2slow4flo2slow4flo Member Posts: 30

    Mainboard:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128419&cm_re=gigabyte_motherboard-_-13-128-419-_-Product

    Processor:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103809&cm_re=945-_-19-103-809-_-Product

    Processor cooler:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185097&cm_re=scythe-_-35-185-097-_-Product

    Ram:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193

    Power supply:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171031

    Hdd:

    2x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181&cm_re=samsung_f3-_-22-152-181-_-Product

    Case:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112239&cm_re=lancool-_-11-112-239-_-Product

    Graphics Card:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131351&cm_re=5850-_-14-131-351-_-Product

    or

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127490&cm_re=5770-_-14-127-490-_-Product

     

    That makes:

    936$ with case+ HD 5850

    811$ with case + HD 5770

    836$ without case + HD 5850

    711$ without case + HD 5770

     

    You can google for various benchmarks and you will notice that amd is NOT far behind to intel, yet an amd mobo+cpu ~ 250$ while u pay 490$ for a core i7 920 + mainboard. That's about twice the price for same, sometimes lower, sometimes 5% higher performance.

     

    Go for intel if you use adobe software a lot, you will notice an increase there, but if your only concern is gaming and casual video/photo editing go for amd.

     

    And 8gb ram is a waste, no game/programm uses more than 3 gb right now.

  • noquarternoquarter Member Posts: 1,170


    Originally posted by 2slow4flo


    Originally posted by heerobya



    Originally posted by 2slow4flo



    Originally posted by heerobya

    Tigerdirect price still beats the newegg for 8gb ddr3 mem w/ quad core i5 proc and 1gb vid card w/ 1tb hard drive...
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5611886&Sku=G180-0123
     
    879.99

    Pretty shit processor and graphics card.

    ATI Radeon HD 5750 and Core i5-750 are crap?
    Huh.... ok....

    My setup with a ATI Radeon HD 5850 and a Phenom II x4 945 beats your shit!
    So yes, compared to what I wrote they ARE crap.

    The i5-750 certainly isn't a crap processor, but in the interest of a gaming rig I would rather have the 5850+Phenom II over 5750+i7-750. Or better yet a 5850+i7-750 :)

    8GB definitely is a waste of money, but that's the problem with buying prebuilts like that is they are never allocated properly for gaming.

  • mudstuckmudstuck Member Posts: 203

    Originally posted by noquarter

     




    Originally posted by 2slow4flo







    Originally posted by heerobya








    Originally posted by 2slow4flo








    Originally posted by heerobya



    Tigerdirect price still beats the newegg for 8gb ddr3 mem w/ quad core i5 proc and 1gb vid card w/ 1tb hard drive...

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5611886&Sku=G180-0123

     

    879.99






    Pretty shit processor and graphics card.






    ATI Radeon HD 5750 and Core i5-750 are crap?

    Huh.... ok....





    My setup with a ATI Radeon HD 5850 and a Phenom II x4 945 beats your shit!

    So yes, compared to what I wrote they ARE crap.





    The i5-750 certainly isn't a crap processor, but in the interest of a gaming rig I would rather have the 5850+Phenom II over 5750+i7-750. Or better yet a 5850+i7-750 :)

    8GB definitely is a waste of money, but that's the problem with buying prebuilts like that is they are never allocated properly for gaming.

    Has it got something to do with needed ram for each channel?

    Hey Noquarter, I read something in your post that Ive wondred about but never knew about. About 8 gigs being too much for gamming. Why is that? Not trolling just seems something I need to know.

  • noquarternoquarter Member Posts: 1,170


    Originally posted by mudstuck


    Originally posted by noquarter
     

    The i5-750 certainly isn't a crap processor, but in the interest of a gaming rig I would rather have the 5850+Phenom II over 5750+i7-750. Or better yet a 5850+i7-750 :)
    8GB definitely is a waste of money, but that's the problem with buying prebuilts like that is they are never allocated properly for gaming.
    Has it got something to do with needed ram for each channel?


    Hey Noquarter, I read something in your post that Ive wondred about but never knew about. About 8 gigs being too much for gamming. Why is that? Not trolling just seems something I need to know.

    Sure, 32-bit user mode apps (99% of games) are arbitrarily restricted by Windows to 2GB of RAM for themselves, so even if you have 16GB of ram the game will only have access to 2GB. This makes 4GB pretty much perfect, you'll have 2GB for your game (way more than most games use anyway), ~1GB for OS, and about 1GB leftover for whatever you want to run in the background (browser, media player, etc..).


    Since RAM is just workspace having more than necessary doesn't make things any faster, but having less than necessary drastically slows your PC down since then it has to swap what it's working on to the hard drive whenever it runs low on memory. So when budgeting your PC it's better to pick up 4GB and put the rest into the GPU instead of blowing another $100 going up to 8GB.


    Btw there are work arounds for the 2GB limit for 32-bit apps but no games use it, and 64-bit apps aren't restricted by Windows but I can only think of Hellgate: London off-hand.

  • mudstuckmudstuck Member Posts: 203

    Ty Sir.

  • cc170cc170 Member Posts: 146

    Thank you all for your suggestions, instead of building my own PC I have been thinking of buying this PC. It has a lot of the similar specs that you listed. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229172

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