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My opinion of STO.

BetabooBetaboo Member Posts: 384

Spin it any way you want the game is in terminal nose dive mode and no amount of cryptic promises of "it is coming" or "we were just talking about that" is going to help.

 

Nonsencial production cycle(less than 2 years) Poor managment, Crazy PR stunts that always backfired and a truly bad publisher(Atari) have created this perfect storm of stupidity. The result well you can see the results and it is not pretty.

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  • Darth_OsorDarth_Osor Member Posts: 1,089

    Can you post on the official forums with a trial account?  You'd probably have more fun taunting the CDF until you get banned.

  • SpiderpopeSpiderpope Member Posts: 69

    Originally posted by Betaboo



    Spin it any way you want the game is in terminal nose dive mode and no amount of cryptic promises of "it is coming" or "we were just talking about that" is going to help.

     

    Nonsencial production cycle(less than 2 years) Poor managment, Crazy PR stunts that always backfired and a truly bad publisher(Atari) have created this perfect storm of stupidity. The result well you can see the results and it is not pretty.

    and before the fanbois say a word that i am not playing i am ingame on a ten day guest pass.

    You appear to have taken a wrong turn. The "fanboi" infested forums are at the Star Trek Online official site, and STOked.

    Your friendly neighbourhood Spider-pope.

  • BetabooBetaboo Member Posts: 384

    Originally posted by Darth_Osor



    Can you post on the official forums with a trial account?  You'd probably have more fun taunting the CDF until you get banned.

    I am still playing the game (2 more days). but the funny thing i used the term fanboi twice and in a thread  i did not create the thread and they did not ban me but they took away my posting privelages but did not ban me. Did not even get the 4 points needed for a ban just 2 forum demerits. they are clamping down hard on any type of dissent on the STO forums.

    Censorship at work.

  • BetabooBetaboo Member Posts: 384

    Originally posted by Spiderpope



    Originally posted by Betaboo



    Spin it any way you want the game is in terminal nose dive mode and no amount of cryptic promises of "it is coming" or "we were just talking about that" is going to help.

     

    Nonsencial production cycle(less than 2 years) Poor managment, Crazy PR stunts that always backfired and a truly bad publisher(Atari) have created this perfect storm of stupidity. The result well you can see the results and it is not pretty.

    and before the fanbois say a word that i am not playing i am ingame on a ten day guest pass.

    You appear to have taken a wrong turn. The "fanboi" infested forums are at the Star Trek Online official site, and STOked.

    No i did'nt they stopped me from posting on the STO official forums so here is where i will have my say.

  • championsFanchampionsFan Member Posts: 419

    It's ok soon they will have to start offering a free trial and/or a referral system, and then it will be easy to sign up for an account and troll the official forums.

    Cryptic is trying a Customer Development approach to MMO creation.

  • BetabooBetaboo Member Posts: 384

    Originally posted by championsFan



    It's ok soon they will have to start offering a free trial and/or a referral system, and then it will be easy to sign up for an account and troll the official forums.

    Good because i will be their airing my grievances the moment they do.

  • Die_ScreamDie_Scream Member Posts: 1,785

    Originally posted by Betaboo



    Originally posted by championsFan



    It's ok soon they will have to start offering a free trial and/or a referral system, and then it will be easy to sign up for an account and troll the official forums.

    Good because i will be their airing my grievances the moment they do.

    There isn't much point anymore really.

    Cryptic knows the game is going down in flames, players do (but many can't bring themselves to admit it), the gaming world on the whole knows it too.

    It isn't news that STO is circling the drain thanks to Cryptic's ineptitude, anyone with any knowledge of the game can see the bright pink writing on the wall.

    At this point, it's really more of a "Remember that awful Star Trek MMO? Shame it failed, as I love Star Trek."

    Who really cares anymore. The game is a train wreck, has been since launch, bury the corpse.

  • SilentstormSilentstorm Member UncommonPosts: 1,126

    Actually what you guys dont get is people deserve it now. How long you gonna whine and bitch I mean really? If your not going to bring anything positive why speak at all anymore. And again what people fail to understand and I say everywhere I see the noobness happening. NO game ever starts out glitterly and gold the MMORPG business model is launch what you have. Test the waters see what works patch patch expansion. It's been happening like this 25 years if you guys really wanna change it stop buying the games. Make a movement for that it will take everyone to stop it bitching on their forums is just annoying and immature and wont fix anything. In fact i'd censor your behinds too its only been like 2 or 3 months stfu lol. Wow sucked a WHOLE year before it got good. Same goes for everquest anarchy online ultima hell conan just got some shine going.

    Alot of the problem in the MMORPG scene is 80% of the scene doesnt even understand the scene its playing in. And all it does is bitch whine carry on and pay for the things its bitching whining and carrying on about. And the game isnt going down the tubes just because of whining. It still continues to generate money regardless of whiners and crybabies. It's name and brand alone carries it along with the fact its not that bad. The companies stock continues to be stable as well. So just because fan boys are whining and the band wagon trolls are howling doesnt mean anything. The same idiots that said aion is failing hmm last time I check its still number 3 subscription wise. With over 1.5 million subs times 14.99 yea um thats not failing. Guess what STO has twice that with all the complaining never underestimate the power of the trekkie.

  • SpiderpopeSpiderpope Member Posts: 69

    Originally posted by Silentstorm



    Actually what you guys dont get is people deserve it now. How long you gonna whine and bitch I mean really? If your not going to bring anything positive why speak at all anymore. And again what people fail to understand and I say everywhere I see the noobness happening. NO game ever starts out glitterly and gold the MMORPG business model is launch what you have. Test the waters see what works patch patch expansion. It's been happening like this 25 years if you guys really wanna change it stop buying the games. Make a movement for that it will take everyone to stop it bitching on their forums is just annoying and immature and wont fix anything. In fact i'd censor your behinds too its only been like 2 or 3 months stfu lol. Wow sucked a WHOLE year before it got good. Same goes for everquest anarchy online ultima hell conan just got some shine going.

    Alot of the problem in the MMORPG scene is 80% of the scene doesnt even understand the scene its playing in. And all it does is bitch whine carry on and pay for the things its bitching whining and carrying on about. And the game isnt going down the tubes just because of whining. It still continues to generate money regardless of whiners and crybabies. It's name and brand alone carries it along with the fact its not that bad. The companies stock continues to be stable as well. So just because fan boys are whining and the band wagon trolls are howling doesnt mean anything. The same idiots that said aion is failing hmm last time I check its still number 3 subscription wise. With over 1.5 million subs times 14.99 yea um thats not failing. Guess what STO has twice that with all the complaining never underestimate the power of the trekkie.

     

    Jeremy, is that you?

    P.S Even Cryptic wildest claims are only of 100k subscriptions. Not sure where you're getting the 3 million subscribers to STO from.

    Your friendly neighbourhood Spider-pope.

  • Darth_OsorDarth_Osor Member Posts: 1,089

    Originally posted by Spiderpope

    Originally posted by Silentstorm



    Actually what you guys dont get is people deserve it now. How long you gonna whine and bitch I mean really? If your not going to bring anything positive why speak at all anymore. And again what people fail to understand and I say everywhere I see the noobness happening. NO game ever starts out glitterly and gold the MMORPG business model is launch what you have. Test the waters see what works patch patch expansion. It's been happening like this 25 years if you guys really wanna change it stop buying the games. Make a movement for that it will take everyone to stop it bitching on their forums is just annoying and immature and wont fix anything. In fact i'd censor your behinds too its only been like 2 or 3 months stfu lol. Wow sucked a WHOLE year before it got good. Same goes for everquest anarchy online ultima hell conan just got some shine going.

    Alot of the problem in the MMORPG scene is 80% of the scene doesnt even understand the scene its playing in. And all it does is bitch whine carry on and pay for the things its bitching whining and carrying on about. And the game isnt going down the tubes just because of whining. It still continues to generate money regardless of whiners and crybabies. It's name and brand alone carries it along with the fact its not that bad. The companies stock continues to be stable as well. So just because fan boys are whining and the band wagon trolls are howling doesnt mean anything. The same idiots that said aion is failing hmm last time I check its still number 3 subscription wise. With over 1.5 million subs times 14.99 yea um thats not failing. Guess what STO has twice that with all the complaining never underestimate the power of the trekkie.

     

    Jeremy, is that you?

    P.S Even Cryptic wildest claims are only of 100k subscriptions. Not sure where you're getting the 3 million subscribers to STO from.

     Yeah I was going to ask him if I could have some of what he's smoking.

  • BetabooBetaboo Member Posts: 384

    Originally posted by Darth_Osor



    Originally posted by Spiderpope

    Originally posted by Silentstorm



    Actually what you guys dont get is people deserve it now. How long you gonna whine and bitch I mean really? If your not going to bring anything positive why speak at all anymore. And again what people fail to understand and I say everywhere I see the noobness happening. NO game ever starts out glitterly and gold the MMORPG business model is launch what you have. Test the waters see what works patch patch expansion. It's been happening like this 25 years if you guys really wanna change it stop buying the games. Make a movement for that it will take everyone to stop it bitching on their forums is just annoying and immature and wont fix anything. In fact i'd censor your behinds too its only been like 2 or 3 months stfu lol. Wow sucked a WHOLE year before it got good. Same goes for everquest anarchy online ultima hell conan just got some shine going.

    Alot of the problem in the MMORPG scene is 80% of the scene doesnt even understand the scene its playing in. And all it does is bitch whine carry on and pay for the things its bitching whining and carrying on about. And the game isnt going down the tubes just because of whining. It still continues to generate money regardless of whiners and crybabies. It's name and brand alone carries it along with the fact its not that bad. The companies stock continues to be stable as well. So just because fan boys are whining and the band wagon trolls are howling doesnt mean anything. The same idiots that said aion is failing hmm last time I check its still number 3 subscription wise. With over 1.5 million subs times 14.99 yea um thats not failing. Guess what STO has twice that with all the complaining never underestimate the power of the trekkie.

     

    Jeremy, is that you?

    P.S Even Cryptic wildest claims are only of 100k subscriptions. Not sure where you're getting the 3 million subscribers to STO from.

     Yeah I was going to ask him if I could have some of what he's smoking.

    When you find out please tell me because i want to walk around with rose tinted glasses too. And my opinion still stands.

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  • bstiffbstiff Member Posts: 359

    Originally posted by Silentstorm

    The same idiots that said aion is failing hmm last time I check its still number 3 subscription wise. With over 1.5 million subs times 14.99 yea um thats not failing. Guess what STO has twice that with all the complaining never underestimate the power of the trekkie.

     STO has 3 million subs? Link please and you owe me a new keyboard after you made me spit soda all over it.

  • RydesonRydeson Member UncommonPosts: 3,852

    Originally posted by bstiff



    Originally posted by Silentstorm

    The same idiots that said aion is failing hmm last time I check its still number 3 subscription wise. With over 1.5 million subs times 14.99 yea um thats not failing. Guess what STO has twice that with all the complaining never underestimate the power of the trekkie.

     STO has 3 million subs? Link please and you owe me a new keyboard after you made me spit soda all over it.

    Almost?  Ha Ha.. I did spit my ice water all over the keyboard when I read that..   I have to say that coming to the forums and saying STO has 3 million is either 1)  TROLLING (which one should be warned for).. or    2)  <censoring myself because I don't want banned>  lmaooooo

    TY Silent for the eyeroll and my daily laughing exercise..  They say laughing 100 times a day is equal to a 15 minute aerobic workout.. well I just lost 50 pounds.. :)

  • ZinzanZinzan Member UncommonPosts: 1,351



    Originally posted by Silentstorm

    The same idiots that said aion is failing hmm last time I check its still number 3 subscription wise. With over 1.5 million subs times 14.99 yea um thats not failing. Guess what STO has twice that with all the complaining never underestimate the power of the trekkie.

    Dear god thats just a blatant lie.

    Expresso gave me a Hearthstone beta key.....I'm so happy :)

  • BetabooBetaboo Member Posts: 384

    Originally posted by Zinzan





    Originally posted by Silentstorm

    The same idiots that said aion is failing hmm last time I check its still number 3 subscription wise. With over 1.5 million subs times 14.99 yea um thats not failing. Guess what STO has twice that with all the complaining never underestimate the power of the trekkie.

    Dear god thats just a blatant lie.

    Yes it is and on the STO forums it would be gospel and if you disput their claims you get branded a hater and then banned with a wink and a nod by craptic to the fanbois.

    Notice how he did not dispute why the game is in a nose dive he only attacked the messenger--it is their favorite tactic

  • MeTedMeTed Member Posts: 129

    Originally posted by Darth_Osor

    Originally posted by Spiderpope

    Originally posted by Silentstorm



    Actually what you guys dont get is people deserve it now. How long you gonna whine and bitch I mean really? If your not going to bring anything positive why speak at all anymore. And again what people fail to understand and I say everywhere I see the noobness happening. NO game ever starts out glitterly and gold the MMORPG business model is launch what you have. Test the waters see what works patch patch expansion. It's been happening like this 25 years if you guys really wanna change it stop buying the games. Make a movement for that it will take everyone to stop it bitching on their forums is just annoying and immature and wont fix anything. In fact i'd censor your behinds too its only been like 2 or 3 months stfu lol. Wow sucked a WHOLE year before it got good. Same goes for everquest anarchy online ultima hell conan just got some shine going.

    Alot of the problem in the MMORPG scene is 80% of the scene doesnt even understand the scene its playing in. And all it does is bitch whine carry on and pay for the things its bitching whining and carrying on about. And the game isnt going down the tubes just because of whining. It still continues to generate money regardless of whiners and crybabies. It's name and brand alone carries it along with the fact its not that bad. The companies stock continues to be stable as well. So just because fan boys are whining and the band wagon trolls are howling doesnt mean anything. The same idiots that said aion is failing hmm last time I check its still number 3 subscription wise. With over 1.5 million subs times 14.99 yea um thats not failing. Guess what STO has twice that with all the complaining never underestimate the power of the trekkie.

     

    Jeremy, is that you?

    P.S Even Cryptic wildest claims are only of 100k subscriptions. Not sure where you're getting the 3 million subscribers to STO from.

     Yeah I was going to ask him if I could have some of what he's smoking.

     3 million subs from STO? Cryptic can make 5 more MMO's just from the profits they've made lol!

  • bstiffbstiff Member Posts: 359

    apparently LTS's take it poorly if you even jokingly say the devs spent their money on hookers.

    This infraction is worth 1 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.



    Original Post:

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    [quote]Well they could of spent it all instantly on beer, movies and comic books. Or they are using it in the long term to cover expenses over the next two years.



    Personally I'd rather my Lifetime money be spent on keeping the development team employed and creating new content, than waste it on voice overs.



    But thank you for being concerned about my money. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]



    [quote]you forgot hookers.[/quote]



    All the best,

    Star Trek Online Forums

     

    Well guess Ill be back just in time for the weekend follies.

  • Die_ScreamDie_Scream Member Posts: 1,785

    Originally posted by Silentstorm



    Actually what you guys dont get is people deserve it now. How long you gonna whine and bitch I mean really? If your not going to bring anything positive why speak at all anymore. And again what people fail to understand and I say everywhere I see the noobness happening. NO game ever starts out glitterly and gold the MMORPG business model is launch what you have. Test the waters see what works patch patch expansion. It's been happening like this 25 years if you guys really wanna change it stop buying the games. Make a movement for that it will take everyone to stop it bitching on their forums is just annoying and immature and wont fix anything. In fact i'd censor your behinds too its only been like 2 or 3 months stfu lol. Wow sucked a WHOLE year before it got good. Same goes for everquest anarchy online ultima hell conan just got some shine going.

    Alot of the problem in the MMORPG scene is 80% of the scene doesnt even understand the scene its playing in. And all it does is bitch whine carry on and pay for the things its bitching whining and carrying on about. And the game isnt going down the tubes just because of whining. It still continues to generate money regardless of whiners and crybabies. It's name and brand alone carries it along with the fact its not that bad. The companies stock continues to be stable as well. So just because fan boys are whining and the band wagon trolls are howling doesnt mean anything. The same idiots that said aion is failing hmm last time I check its still number 3 subscription wise. With over 1.5 million subs times 14.99 yea um thats not failing. Guess what STO has twice that with all the complaining never underestimate the power of the trekkie.

    At least his ridiculous rant ended with a ridiculous joke.

    Is there really 20K of people this oblivious to keep STO afloat? lol.

  • SpiderpopeSpiderpope Member Posts: 69

    Originally posted by Die_Scream



    Originally posted by Silentstorm



    Actually what you guys dont get is people deserve it now. How long you gonna whine and bitch I mean really? If your not going to bring anything positive why speak at all anymore. And again what people fail to understand and I say everywhere I see the noobness happening. NO game ever starts out glitterly and gold the MMORPG business model is launch what you have. Test the waters see what works patch patch expansion. It's been happening like this 25 years if you guys really wanna change it stop buying the games. Make a movement for that it will take everyone to stop it bitching on their forums is just annoying and immature and wont fix anything. In fact i'd censor your behinds too its only been like 2 or 3 months stfu lol. Wow sucked a WHOLE year before it got good. Same goes for everquest anarchy online ultima hell conan just got some shine going.

    Alot of the problem in the MMORPG scene is 80% of the scene doesnt even understand the scene its playing in. And all it does is bitch whine carry on and pay for the things its bitching whining and carrying on about. And the game isnt going down the tubes just because of whining. It still continues to generate money regardless of whiners and crybabies. It's name and brand alone carries it along with the fact its not that bad. The companies stock continues to be stable as well. So just because fan boys are whining and the band wagon trolls are howling doesnt mean anything. The same idiots that said aion is failing hmm last time I check its still number 3 subscription wise. With over 1.5 million subs times 14.99 yea um thats not failing. Guess what STO has twice that with all the complaining never underestimate the power of the trekkie.

    At least his ridiculous rant ended with a ridiculous joke.

    Is there really 20K of people this oblivious to keep STO afloat? lol.

    Like he said, never underestimate the power of the trekkie...to make excuses for companies and accept any old drivel as long as it has the Star Trek logo on it. Cryptic are relying on the same apologists that Rick Berman relied on for so long.

    Your friendly neighbourhood Spider-pope.

  • TheHellfireTheHellfire Member Posts: 67

    Originally posted by Silentstorm

    Actually what you guys dont get is people deserve it now. How long you gonna whine and bitch I mean really? If your not going to bring anything positive why speak at all anymore. And again what people fail to understand and I say everywhere I see the noobness happening. NO game ever starts out glitterly and gold the MMORPG business model is launch what you have. Test the waters see what works patch patch expansion. It's been happening like this 25 years if you guys really wanna change it stop buying the games. Make a movement for that it will take everyone to stop it bitching on their forums is just annoying and immature and wont fix anything. In fact i'd censor your behinds too its only been like 2 or 3 months stfu lol. Wow sucked a WHOLE year before it got good. Same goes for everquest anarchy online ultima hell conan just got some shine going.

    Alot of the problem in the MMORPG scene is 80% of the scene doesnt even understand the scene its playing in. And all it does is bitch whine carry on and pay for the things its bitching whining and carrying on about. And the game isnt going down the tubes just because of whining. It still continues to generate money regardless of whiners and crybabies. It's name and brand alone carries it along with the fact its not that bad. The companies stock continues to be stable as well. So just because fan boys are whining and the band wagon trolls are howling doesnt mean anything. The same idiots that said aion is failing hmm last time I check its still number 3 subscription wise. With over 1.5 million subs times 14.99 yea um thats not failing. Guess what STO has twice that with all the complaining never underestimate the power of the trekkie.

     Who let the CDF in?

  • bomjbomj Member UncommonPosts: 184

    I am trying to post my opinion on here but my posts keep dissapearing.

     

    I played the game for a month from the early headstart and was hugely dissapointed in the lack of immersion and good pvp games.

     

    The games graphics are nice.

  • bstiffbstiff Member Posts: 359

    Originally posted by Silentstorm

    Actually what you guys dont get is people deserve it now. How long you gonna whine and bitch I mean really? If your not going to bring anything positive why speak at all anymore. And again what people fail to understand and I say everywhere I see the noobness happening. NO game ever starts out glitterly and gold the MMORPG business model is launch what you have. Test the waters see what works patch patch expansion. It's been happening like this 25 years if you guys really wanna change it stop buying the games. Make a movement for that it will take everyone to stop it bitching on their forums is just annoying and immature and wont fix anything. In fact i'd censor your behinds too its only been like 2 or 3 months stfu lol. Wow sucked a WHOLE year before it got good. Same goes for everquest anarchy online ultima hell conan just got some shine going.

    Alot of the problem in the MMORPG scene is 80% of the scene doesnt even understand the scene its playing in. And all it does is bitch whine carry on and pay for the things its bitching whining and carrying on about. And the game isnt going down the tubes just because of whining. It still continues to generate money regardless of whiners and crybabies. It's name and brand alone carries it along with the fact its not that bad. The companies stock continues to be stable as well. So just because fan boys are whining and the band wagon trolls are howling doesnt mean anything. The same idiots that said aion is failing hmm last time I check its still number 3 subscription wise. With over 1.5 million subs times 14.99 yea um thats not failing. Guess what STO has twice that with all the complaining never underestimate the power of the trekkie.

    1 What MMO was out in 1985? The earliest I can find is 1994.

    2 95% of the percentages posted on forums are made up

    3 You're correct there. It's going down the tubes because it's a half finished game that decided to charge a full game price

     

  • FelconianFelconian Member Posts: 103

    Originally posted by Betaboo



    Spin it any way you want the game is in terminal nose dive mode and no amount of cryptic promises of "it is coming" or "we were just talking about that" is going to help.

     

    Nonsencial production cycle(less than 2 years) Poor managment, Crazy PR stunts that always backfired and a truly bad publisher(Atari) have created this perfect storm of stupidity. The result well you can see the results and it is not pretty.

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    So ..true ... DIE ..DIE ..DIE .... so a good dev company can make a much better Game!

  • PermianPermian Member CommonPosts: 78

    Originally posted by bstiff

    1 What MMO was out in 1985? The earliest I can find is 1994.

    Island of Kesmai, 1985 lol

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_of_Kesmai

    I was curious so found out -- don't shoot the messenger. :p

  • FelconianFelconian Member Posts: 103

    Originally posted by Permian



    Originally posted by bstiff

    1 What MMO was out in 1985? The earliest I can find is 1994.

    Island of Kesmai, 1985 lol

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_of_Kesmai

    I was curious so found out -- don't shoot the messenger. :p

    HIS TALKING ABOUT..... D&D ...THE BOARD GAME!

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