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Cata 40bucks is it worth it?

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  • J.YossarianJ.Yossarian Member Posts: 128

    Games are, in general, good value for money as entertainment compared to the alternatives. I payed for Dragonage, played through it in a week, took a fair amount of hours; seemed worth it. I've played a lot more WoW and though I've payed monthly for it it's still been more cost effective. Cata won't be an exception, and frankly 40 usd is not a lot of money.

  • just1opinionjust1opinion Member UncommonPosts: 4,641

    I certainly cannot think of a SINGLE reason why Cataclysm would not be worth the price for anyone that plays WoW and enjoys it.

     

    I mean....what on earth would make it NOT worth the cost if you love the game?

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  • CacaphonyCacaphony Member Posts: 738

    For me I will get it just because its another expansion, and I like to have complete collections. Im looking forward to the new races, revamped zones and such. Though with wow...I dont really take on the stance of is this worth it or not. I simply get the new expansions because my collection is now incomplete without it.

    I know thats a wierd reason... but im wierd like that.

  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056

    Originally posted by girlgeek

    I certainly cannot think of a SINGLE reason why Cataclysm would not be worth the price for anyone that plays WoW and enjoys it.

     

    I mean....what on earth would make it NOT worth the cost if you love the game?

    That they are further dumbing-down the game?

    That the new content is not worth the cost?

    That cataclysm will remove some favourite areas from the game?

     

    I quit WoW for other reasons, but I see nothing particularly good in Cataclysm. Maybe Path of the TItans, but too little info is out for it so far.

    Grouping while leveling still isn't being fixed, so screw it.

    Two new races? BFD. One new class would be a lot more interesting. This will be the third expansion, and they have added only one new class (and that one is mediocre).

     

    "" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,063

    Your asking supporters of a game where they lined up for hours to purchase a 25 dollar fluff mount if 40 bucks is worth the price?

    99/100 will say yes I'm sure.

    40 bucks is pocket change in the gaming world these days.

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  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148Member CommonPosts: 6,690

    I guess that is a very subjective at best. The diehard WoW fans would like to think so but on the otherhand others will not because you only getting 2 new races and a reskinned world to play in with the same old type of content players have been consuming for the past 5+ years.

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  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056

    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Your asking supporters of a game where they lined up for hours to purchase a 25 dollar fluff mount if 40 bucks is worth the price?

    99/100 will say yes I'm sure.

    40 bucks is pocket change in the gaming world these days.

    If the same number of people buy the expansion as that mount - Cataclysm will be a huge failure.

    "" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004

    Well, much as i'd prefer Blizzard to follow CCP's lead on expansion pricing (ie.. Free!) i'll probably end up buying it anyway..  as soon as it hits the shops....

  • justandulasjustandulas Member Posts: 165

    I probably would have told you it was worth it a week or two ago, but with the changes to cata raiding don't throw your money away friend. It will be just a cupcake fest of epic proportion. Login, que up for your 10m dungeon, get your BiS gear for an hours of work and log out. There is no filler time (take it from someone who has killed LK 25m) Professions are a downright joke, the only thing holding WoW together atm is PVP (incredibly unbalanced) and Raiding PVE which is being raped beyond words next expansion. Save your cash, take your girl out to a movie. The movie will prolly last longer then WoW's endgame in cata.

  • just1opinionjust1opinion Member UncommonPosts: 4,641

    Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

    Originally posted by girlgeek

    I certainly cannot think of a SINGLE reason why Cataclysm would not be worth the price for anyone that plays WoW and enjoys it.

     

    I mean....what on earth would make it NOT worth the cost if you love the game?

    That they are further dumbing-down the game?

    That the new content is not worth the cost?

    That cataclysm will remove some favourite areas from the game?

     

    I quit WoW for other reasons, but I see nothing particularly good in Cataclysm. Maybe Path of the TItans, but too little info is out for it so far.

    Grouping while leveling still isn't being fixed, so screw it.

    Two new races? BFD. One new class would be a lot more interesting. This will be the third expansion, and they have added only one new class (and that one is mediocre).

     

     

    See though, Hun...you and I do not LOVE the game.  Which is why I said, "IF you love the game."  Capiche? lol   :)

     

    For you and I....the game is more like an obnoxious ex-girlfriend that you used to dote over, only to find out....she's not at all who she first portrayed herself to be....and now you can suddenly see every sordid flaw.

     

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  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056

    Originally posted by girlgeek

    See though, Hun...you and I do not LOVE the game.  Which is why I said, "IF you love the game."  Capiche? lol   :)

     

    For you and I....the game is more like an obnoxious ex-girlfriend that you used to dote over, only to find out....she's not at all who she first portrayed herself to be....and now you can suddenly see every sordid flaw.

     It's what she's doing to make money on the side that caused me to kick her out.

    "" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

  • just1opinionjust1opinion Member UncommonPosts: 4,641

    Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

    Originally posted by girlgeek

    See though, Hun...you and I do not LOVE the game.  Which is why I said, "IF you love the game."  Capiche? lol   :)

     

    For you and I....the game is more like an obnoxious ex-girlfriend that you used to dote over, only to find out....she's not at all who she first portrayed herself to be....and now you can suddenly see every sordid flaw.

     It's what she's doing to make money on the side that caused me to kick her out.

     

    BWAHAHAHAHA!  Good one!

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  • GoldknyghtGoldknyght Member UncommonPosts: 1,519

    Its not worth it in since this is what Blizzard is making in Revenue i guess not profits a month. 14.99 X 11.5million(last checked) = 172,385,000 and thats just from WoW a month. Now there is NO FRACKIN WAY u can tell me they are spending 172 million on servers and employees a month sorry there not. And With those kind of profits BLIZZARD should give EVERY EXPANSION FREE!!! at least until there damn numbers fall down to a number where they arn't making a killing though there dumb subscribers who keep buying there expansion pacs for 40 bucks. now do 40 X 11.5 million cuz everyone has to have there xp pac and they will sell at least 5 million first week. NOT WORTH IT!!! PERIOD

  • HashbrickHashbrick Member RarePosts: 1,851


    Originally posted by Goldknyght
    Its not worth it in since this is what Blizzard is making in Revenue i guess not profits a month. 14.99 X 11.5million(last checked) = 172,385,000 and thats just from WoW a month. Now there is NO FRACKIN WAY u can tell me they are spending 172 million on servers and employees a month sorry there not. And With those kind of profits BLIZZARD should give EVERY EXPANSION FREE!!! at least until there damn numbers fall down to a number where they arn't making a killing though there dumb subscribers who keep buying there expansion pacs for 40 bucks. now do 40 X 11.5 million cuz everyone has to have there xp pac and they will sell at least 5 million first week. NOT WORTH IT!!! PERIOD

    So because Blizzard is so successful with WoW they should just give shit away for free and start taking a lose? You can see in the business world this makes no sense. If I was Blizzard I'd be charging $200 for the expansion and laugh at all rage on the forums. Because let's face it there will be tons that will turn it down but the truly addicted will buy it and that is about 3/4s of their subscription base. Blizzard has you by the balls and you know it.

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  • GoldknyghtGoldknyght Member UncommonPosts: 1,519

    Originally posted by Hashbrick

     




    Originally posted by Goldknyght

    Its not worth it in since this is what Blizzard is making in Revenue i guess not profits a month. 14.99 X 11.5million(last checked) = 172,385,000 and thats just from WoW a month. Now there is NO FRACKIN WAY u can tell me they are spending 172 million on servers and employees a month sorry there not. And With those kind of profits BLIZZARD should give EVERY EXPANSION FREE!!! at least until there damn numbers fall down to a number where they arn't making a killing though there dumb subscribers who keep buying there expansion pacs for 40 bucks. now do 40 X 11.5 million cuz everyone has to have there xp pac and they will sell at least 5 million first week. NOT WORTH IT!!! PERIOD




     

    So because Blizzard is so successful with WoW they should just give shit away for free and start taking a lose? You can see in the business world this makes no sense. If I was Blizzard I'd be charging $200 for the expansion and laugh at all rage on the forums. Because let's face it there will be tons that will turn it down but the truly addicted will buy it and that is about 3/4s of their subscription base. Blizzard has you by the balls and you know it.

     When you pay your subscription every month you are paying for Content, Characters, server fees. If your making that much money why not thank your customer base with a free massive update that we call expansions. They are still charging http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=66710 //

    http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=1100000265

    for WOtLK 40 bones. ANd you think thats good business practices but you lame zombies that play WoW dont see how Blizzard is just raping you each subscription payment and every expansion pack. You know nothing but how to get raped each month.

    EDIT: And since wow is so sucessful its like they are charging you to breath. They have a monopoly on subscription MMORPG's and they are JUST MILKING IT FOR ALL ITS WORTH instead of actually caring about there customers who made them so sucessful

  • severiusseverius Member UncommonPosts: 1,516

    Originally posted by dirtyjoe78

    Browsing around you can pre-order WoW Cata but it's $40 for half the levels and a rework of a current continent.  So my question to you all is do you think it is worth it to shell out the $40?

    As to whether or not it's worth it? I dunno.  I will get it tho because it'll be interesting to see what they can do with the original Azeroth.  The new races, reworked oldworld raids and everything.  Sure, I need something to keep me busy until SWTOR releases anyway lol.  And again, the original question, folks are shelling out 25 for an idiot glowy horse blizzard coulda probly charged 60 or more and the ravenous fiends would still swallow it up.

  • CacaphonyCacaphony Member Posts: 738


    Originally posted by Goldknyght

    Originally posted by Hashbrick
     


    Originally posted by Goldknyght
    Its not worth it in since this is what Blizzard is making in Revenue i guess not profits a month. 14.99 X 11.5million(last checked) = 172,385,000 and thats just from WoW a month. Now there is NO FRACKIN WAY u can tell me they are spending 172 million on servers and employees a month sorry there not. And With those kind of profits BLIZZARD should give EVERY EXPANSION FREE!!! at least until there damn numbers fall down to a number where they arn't making a killing though there dumb subscribers who keep buying there expansion pacs for 40 bucks. now do 40 X 11.5 million cuz everyone has to have there xp pac and they will sell at least 5 million first week. NOT WORTH IT!!! PERIOD

     
    So because Blizzard is so successful with WoW they should just give shit away for free and start taking a lose? You can see in the business world this makes no sense. If I was Blizzard I'd be charging $200 for the expansion and laugh at all rage on the forums. Because let's face it there will be tons that will turn it down but the truly addicted will buy it and that is about 3/4s of their subscription base. Blizzard has you by the balls and you know it.


     When you pay your subscription every month you are paying for Content, Characters, server fees. If your making that much money why not thank your customer base with a free massive update that we call expansions. They are still charging http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=66710 //
    http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=1100000265
    for WOtLK 40 bones. ANd you think thats good business practices but you lame zombies that play WoW dont see how Blizzard is just raping you each subscription payment and every expansion pack. You know nothing but how to get raped each month.
    EDIT: And since wow is so sucessful its like they are charging you to breath. They have a monopoly on subscription MMORPG's and they are JUST MILKING IT FOR ALL ITS WORTH instead of actually caring about there customers who made them so sucessful

    So I take it that, in reguards to the op's question... thats a big NO from you. Gotcha.

  • RydesonRydeson Member UncommonPosts: 3,852

    Originally posted by Goldknyght

    Its not worth it in since this is what Blizzard is making in Revenue i guess not profits a month. 14.99 X 11.5million(last checked) = 172,385,000 and thats just from WoW a month. Now there is NO FRACKIN WAY u can tell me they are spending 172 million on servers and employees a month sorry there not. And With those kind of profits BLIZZARD should give EVERY EXPANSION FREE!!! at least until there damn numbers fall down to a number where they arn't making a killing though there dumb subscribers who keep buying there expansion pacs for 40 bucks. now do 40 X 11.5 million cuz everyone has to have there xp pac and they will sell at least 5 million first week. NOT WORTH IT!!! PERIOD

     

    Becareful of the numbers..  The facts are 1/2 of Blizzard's customer base ( CHINA ) does NOT pay a monthly subscription.. In fact they pay a per hour diem rate, that barely covers the cost servers and expenses..  It is the WESTERN playerbase that foots the tab and pays for 90% of Blizzards profits..  How's that for a kick in the arse?  YES, The western market is supplimenting much of the eastern customers..  I can promise you this.. If Cataclysm cost 5 million to make, it will be the western market paying for it, NOT the players from China..   As for the rest of the eastern market such as Korea, I don't know what there $$ structure..

  • XarruXarru Member Posts: 37


    Originally posted by Rydeson


    Originally posted by memoir44
    Tip: you'll need a complete afternoon just to read about the upcoming materiel in CATA.
      I don't.. I read all of it in a hour.. but then I have a higher level of education then "I'm sheep" high school..

    No you don't, if you had 'higher level of education' you wouldn't need to resort to name calling just because someone disagrees with you. It's clear that you lack arguments for this discussion and you take "I'm smart you are dumb" route to hide it.

    And BTW majority of WoW player base is well over 20 years old so your "high school" reference also fails.
     

  • RydesonRydeson Member UncommonPosts: 3,852

    Originally posted by goatus

     




    Originally posted by Rydeson








    Originally posted by memoir44

    Tip: you'll need a complete afternoon just to read about the upcoming materiel in CATA.



      I don't.. I read all of it in a hour.. but then I have a higher level of education then "I'm sheep" high school..



    No you don't, if you had 'higher level of education' you wouldn't need to resort to name calling just because someone disagrees with you. It's clear that you lack arguments for this discussion and you take "I'm smart you are dumb" route to hide it.

    And BTW majority of WoW player base is well over 20 years old so your "high school" reference also fails.

     

     

    Name calling.. Where?    LOL 

  • yayitsandyyayitsandy Member Posts: 363

    The could charge twice that and still get people to pay for it . If they can get people to pay 25 dollars my that little sparkly pony , Never underestimated the power of an mmo addiction .

  • J.YossarianJ.Yossarian Member Posts: 128

    Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

    That they are further dumbing-down the game?

    That the new content is not worth the cost?

    That cataclysm will remove some favourite areas from the game?

     

    I quit WoW for other reasons, but I see nothing particularly good in Cataclysm. Maybe Path of the TItans, but too little info is out for it so far.

    Grouping while leveling still isn't being fixed, so screw it.

    Two new races? BFD. One new class would be a lot more interesting. This will be the third expansion, and they have added only one new class (and that one is mediocre).

     

    Haters keep hatin'.

  • EindrachenEindrachen Member Posts: 211

    The answer to the question starts with another question: What all do you get for your $40?

    The level cap thing is bunk.  Level caps don't actually cap progression; it's just a way of establishing the upper limit of the game content.  And any number can be arbitrarily inflated; if they get to level cap 100 after a few more expansions and decide we need more, they'll raise it higher.

    So we ask ourselves, is the amount of actual content worth it?

    They are completely redoing the old zones, allowing flying, putting in zones for all four elemental planes, and adding however many other instances they feel we should have.  This includes redoing the quests and whatnot from levels 1-60.  That right there is a lot of bang for the buck.

    Add in Path of the Titans, and the inevitable new BG or two, another outdoor PVP zone, two new races, and probably work on the next heroic class or two (nothing confirmed, just comments that they want to work on them "soon"), and we get a bit more "stuff" out of the mix.

    My feeling is that Cataclysm, if it delivers the content it seems to be promising, is well worth the $40, if you already play WOW.  If you don't like WOW for any reason, I doubt "more of the same, but bigger" is going to impress you.

    I'll be buying it, yeah.  It still entertains me, and I've got my mileage out of previous expansions.

    Still don't know about that sparkle pony, though.  If I had a full list of alts on my "home" server, maybe...

  • XarruXarru Member Posts: 37


    Originally posted by Rydeson
    Name calling.. Where?    LOL 

    Oh sorry, i guess i misunderstood that part when you suggested he is like a sheep...

    not

    Anyways back on topic:

    For Me most important part of Cata is complete revamp of old Azeroth. I mean, in how many MMOs you have chance to see world actually change over time with story progression? And by change i don't mean cosmetic improvements or pvp objectives changing hands.

    Two whole continents are completely changing, not only geometry but also story arcs are updated acordingly to new stroy progression (scourge falling back, Horde progressing in Ashenvale etc). I'm the guy that reads all the quests and goes to all the places (accessible or not ;) so this change is really welcome. Sure not all quests will be updated, and not every piece of geometry changed but still to revisit all this places and see how they progressed with story will be really amazing.

    And to those that suggest i get that for free, sure this change is for everyone but _it is_ part of the expansion, so for me those 40$ is like approval vote for Blizzard. Honestly it's, as someone else stated, pocket money, you can easily spent more going to restaurant / cinema etc.

  • RydesonRydeson Member UncommonPosts: 3,852

    Originally posted by Eindrachen

    The answer to the question starts with another question: What all do you get for your $40?

    The level cap thing is bunk.  Level caps don't actually cap progression; it's just a way of establishing the upper limit of the game content.  And any number can be arbitrarily inflated; if they get to level cap 100 after a few more expansions and decide we need more, they'll raise it higher.

    So we ask ourselves, is the amount of actual content worth it?

    They are completely redoing the old zones, allowing flying, ( ONLY in certain zones.. YOU will not be flying in Stormwind for example..  putting in zones for all four elemental planes,( there will only be I believe 4 new questiong zones)  and adding however many other instances they feel we should have.  ( think it was said to be about 5 dungeons and 1 or 2 raids) This includes redoing the quests and whatnot from levels 1-60.  ( WRONG.. OMG.. where did this BS come from.. 90% of the quest that take you from level 1 - 60 are still there.. nothing changed.. A good handful of zones are receiving a facelift ONLY.. In FACT many of the old quest are beign forever deleted from the data banks.. ) That right there is a lot of bang for the buck. ( check your quest totals in achievements in the old world from 1-60, then check again after Cataclysm, youj'll notice not much as changed )

    Add in Path of the Titans, (which is exp to earn 10 more glyph type slots that are darn near useless, yeah.. woo hoo I get an extra 10% heal from bandages .. WoW I'm glad I grinded to get that ability )  and the inevitable new BG or two, another outdoor PVP zone, two new races, you're kiding, right? you areally think getting a race skin is content?  lmao  and probably work on the next heroic class or two (there is no new class heroic or otherwise.. PERIOD)  (nothing confirmed, just comments that they want to work on them "soon"), and we get a bit more "stuff" out of the mix.

    My feeling is that Cataclysm, if it delivers the content it seems to be promising, is well worth the $40, if you already play WOW.  If you don't like WOW for any reason, I doubt "more of the same, but bigger" is going to impress you.

    I'll be buying it, yeah.  It still entertains me, and I've got my mileage out of previous expansions.

    Still don't know about that sparkle pony, though.  If I had a full list of alts on my "home" server, maybe...

    I really do hope you take more time in studying politics before voting then you do with WoW facts.. I'm going to so laugh my ass off when pepple realized that there was NOT a complete revamp of 1 -60 as some like to think is going to happen.. LOL

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