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Vanguard has killed all other MMORPGs for me
Adamantine
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Never again will I be able to accept being just a passive healbot.
If nothing else, this detail alone is why Vanguard should already have been popular and should have managed millions of subscriptions, challenging WoW in its success.
Now hardly anybody will ever know how fun it can be to be a healer.
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There are a lot of similarities in some of the warhammer healers. They were rather fun to play at times despite the short commings of the game.
I have to agree with your overall thoughts though. There seems to be something lacking in the genre right now in terms of "that new" game that refines and evolves what is currently offered. Sad that such potential in Vanguard has been squandered by soe. Watching them supporting inferior games has just never made any sense to me.
I agree. It amazes me that WOW has so many subscribers when there are so many other better games out!
Vanguard was very enjoyable . .. especially when it was very crowded and although it is considered a theme park game, it felt like a sandbox to me because there was only a few spots where you could be stuck on a quest. For the most part, if a quest was broken or something (like many were) you could just go to a different continent and become a part of a whole new chain. The crafting was enjoyable and so was the diplomacy . .. the art and graphics were totally my style too (unlike the cartoony WOW or AION).
The blood mage was really fun to play as a healer class!! What I did was put everything into intelligence (items included and crafted myself very nice stuff always) and damage and kept the form on where your health degens while your damage is +25% or something along those lines . .. anyways, I did a lot of damage! Because my INT was so high or whatever I landed critical hits very often which would unlock the mega damage/AOE heal or and instant mega heal if someone was almost dead. I had to switch forms often with harder mobs though because my favorite one caused a LOT of hate. What was funny was that the mega damage/aoe heal just allocated the damage dealt between your party (which turned out to be a lot) and even if a party member was in a different zone or whatever, they would receive my heals. I have been able to save someone on the other side of the world LOL seeing his health go down (was probably from PVP) I would find an easy mob (where every hit is a critical hit) and walla! I bet that this was never even fixed . .. I just wish that the bloodmage was more balanced for PVP.
The no-instances ruled! I was so amazed at the time when travelling from one end of the map to the other without going into different instances or running into invisible walls. Darkfall (game I am playing now and my new favorite) is the only other game that I have played that successfully pulled this off (but better actually because you never load into chuncks or zonelines and new areas).
One of the biggest reasons Vanguard probably failed was because of the lag. I remember that I was UNABLE to do simple things like walk through a door in a crowded city . ... this was fixed later on but it was really bad for several months (I simply just could not go into those cities) and every problem took them wayyy too long to address. How could SOE not love this game!!?! Launch failed but they didnt have to abandon it . .. I feel betrayed by them.
I am really enjoying Darkfall now. It is just so much more exciting and much more of a sandbox and feels a lot more real than any other MMORPG that I have ever player (controls are funner too but I had almost quit because I hated them at first). I also play about 20 minutes of Guildwars almost daily. I just wish that Darkfall they had things like Bards, Blood Mage, etc. They are coming out with prestige classes in a couple months so I am hoping for some cooler customization options.
Remembering Vanguard will always bring a smile to my face. LOL I loved the psionocist as well! Very cool and fun class to play . .. but again they were totally gimped in PVP and a level 50 could be killed by a level 30 of most every other class . ..
I could go on and on and on about how much fun Vanguard was. If I had more time than I would play even though the world is very dead.
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Agreed, it has been hard to find classes in other MMOs with as much depth, exploration, and enjoyability as are in Vanguard.
Currently playing: LOTRO, Guild Wars 2.
Have played: EVE Online; Champions Online; Age of Conan; City of Heroes/Villains; Star Wars Galaxies (pre-CU, pre-NGE); World of Warcraft (Vanilla to Cataclysm); Hellgate: London; Warhammer Online; Lord of the Rings Online; Vanguard: Saga of Heroes; Star Wars: The Old Republic
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Yeah clerics were OP as crap in the beginning, fun on a bun. Of course I couldn't pvp because of my crap computer, someone would come into the zone and i would lock up until they killed me or left lol.
I just remembered how cool my bard's setup was. I macroed the bellow spell (on its own cycle so you culd cast it while casting other things) with every skill/spell that I had so everytime that it refreshed it would be cast (which added quite a bit more DPS).
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Well ... I'm actually not fond of that part of Vanguard at all.
IMHO one should disallow abilities without a cooldown completely.
Worst of it was, when you had macroed anything, the button would no longer show the cooldown.
It also made configuring your character a hell of complicated and time consuming.
Blood Mage is the most fun class,put INT WIS and VIT. I have a 53 sorcerer,some apw (raid armour) pieces and then i ahve 2-3 above 40 and some above 35 and rest is like 31 and 25+. You see this game is so damn great i played it for 3 years,but unsubscribed soem months ago,if SOE can make this game betetr,update graphics,some quests and add mroe raid instances.(apw is the only). and make commercial i think many will play it.