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just a heads up for u afk miners thinking ure hidden safely :P

dosengandosengan Member UncommonPosts: 52

in darkfall sound matters.. i can hear a miner from miles away just go towards the sound works just as good as any radar hack

 

i know alot of people think sound should be for amusement but in darkfall its like this

 

- if u get a lag spike , probably somebody near u

- if ure mining / woodchopping u make noise.. ,

- if ure roaming around and have ure 3d suround uber sexy headset on with sound max u'll notice alot of things u wouldent when u where lissening to ure favorite music :D

stuff that alerts me just by sound

- footsteps ( if u spring or walk it makes more sound then when u walk slowly :D)

- buffing (spells make enough sound .. a single buff of an enemy often saves me :D)

- players killing mobs ( spells  , melee , archery)

- just mobs agroing  (when u see a mob cast a spell to ure west and u hear "AAAH" it means a player got hit and is there o,o!)

 

sound in darkfall tho primitive, its damn handy to lissen to :D

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  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333

    Your ears is like a second pair of eyes in Darkfall.  Never put music on or even close television in room cause i start to feel "bilnd" if i am not keep focused on listening DF surroundings.

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  • patshirpatshir Member Posts: 114

    Original discussion.

  • IAmMMOIAmMMO Member UncommonPosts: 1,462

    I can hear you coming too when mining, so it goes both ways.

  • XianthosXianthos Member Posts: 723

    Originally posted by IAmMMO

    I can hear you coming too when mining, so it goes both ways.

    I doubt it. If you hear someone sneaking you have some mutant ears ... :P and as you mine you got a "small" view over area. Its pretty easy to gank miners.

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  • CecropiaCecropia Member RarePosts: 3,985

    Originally posted by Xianthos

    Originally posted by IAmMMO

    I can hear you coming too when mining, so it goes both ways.

    I doubt it. If you hear someone sneaking you have some mutant ears ... :P and as you mine you got a "small" view over area. Its pretty easy to gank miners.

    If you mined in this game for 10 minutes you'd know that you can hear people coming. I've held on to much iron ore that I  would have otherwised lost due to keeping my headphones/speakers on while mining.

     

    "Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb

  • EthianEthian Member Posts: 1,216

    Originally posted by dosengan

    in darkfall sound matters.. i can hear a miner from miles away just go towards the sound works just as good as any radar hack

     

    i know alot of people think sound should be for amusement but in darkfall its like this

     

    - if u get a lag spike , probably somebody near u

    - if ure mining / woodchopping u make noise.. ,

    - if ure roaming around and have ure 3d suround uber sexy headset on with sound max u'll notice alot of things u wouldent when u where lissening to ure favorite music :D

    stuff that alerts me just by sound

    - footsteps ( if u spring or walk it makes more sound then when u walk slowly :D)

    - buffing (spells make enough sound .. a single buff of an enemy often saves me :D)

    - players killing mobs ( spells  , melee , archery)

    - just mobs agroing  (when u see a mob cast a spell to ure west and u hear "AAAH" it means a player got hit and is there o,o!)

     

    sound in darkfall tho primitive, its damn handy to lissen to :D

     Yup, just another reason Darkfall is like no other MMO. By far my best MMO experience to date. I can't wait to increase my skills/stats further and pawn the vets returning 6months from now and watch them cry because their no longer the elite crowd. 

    /rage quit already, vets!!! muahahaha :-)

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  • XianthosXianthos Member Posts: 723

    Originally posted by Cecropia

    Originally posted by Xianthos


    Originally posted by IAmMMO

    I can hear you coming too when mining, so it goes both ways.

    I doubt it. If you hear someone sneaking you have some mutant ears ... :P and as you mine you got a "small" view over area. Its pretty easy to gank miners.

    If you mined in this game for 10 minutes you'd know that you can hear people coming. I've held on to much iron ore that I  would have otherwised lost due to keeping my headphones/speakers on while mining.

     



    Ive mined over xxx hours and i dont see how you should hear ppl coming if they sneak. Only way i could imagine you hear them if you got "lag radar" or they do some dumb mistakes like running or sneak jump ( terrain ). Im in the luxus that i got "lag radar" my comp even get louders if its need to load something. And its never disapointed me :) There has to be a benefit having and old one!

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  • CecropiaCecropia Member RarePosts: 3,985

    Originally posted by Xianthos

    Originally posted by Cecropia

    Originally posted by Xianthos

    Originally posted by IAmMMO

    I can hear you coming too when mining, so it goes both ways.

    I doubt it. If you hear someone sneaking you have some mutant ears ... :P and as you mine you got a "small" view over area. Its pretty easy to gank miners.

    If you mined in this game for 10 minutes you'd know that you can hear people coming. I've held on to much iron ore that I  would have otherwised lost due to keeping my headphones/speakers on while mining.

     



    Ive mined over xxx hours and i dont see how you should hear ppl coming if they sneak. Only way i could imagine you hear them if you got "lag radar" or they do some dumb mistakes like running or sneak jump ( terrain ). Im in the luxus that i got "lag radar" my comp even get louders if its need to load something. And its never disapointed me :) There has to be a benefit having and old one!

    It's not about whether or not you should hear people coming, you just do. That is how the game was designed. Frankly it's hard to take what you're saying seriously when it's plainly false.

    P.S. I don't use "lag radar" or whatever.

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  • megaraxmegarax Member UncommonPosts: 269

    Wow! MMO with sound? Exciting times I tell you.

  • XianthosXianthos Member Posts: 723

    Originally posted by Cecropia

    Originally posted by Xianthos


    Originally posted by Cecropia


    Originally posted by Xianthos


    Originally posted by IAmMMO

    I can hear you coming too when mining, so it goes both ways.

    I doubt it. If you hear someone sneaking you have some mutant ears ... :P and as you mine you got a "small" view over area. Its pretty easy to gank miners.

    If you mined in this game for 10 minutes you'd know that you can hear people coming. I've held on to much iron ore that I  would have otherwised lost due to keeping my headphones/speakers on while mining.

     



    Ive mined over xxx hours and i dont see how you should hear ppl coming if they sneak. Only way i could imagine you hear them if you got "lag radar" or they do some dumb mistakes like running or sneak jump ( terrain ). Im in the luxus that i got "lag radar" my comp even get louders if its need to load something. And its never disapointed me :) There has to be a benefit having and old one!

    It's not about whether or not you should hear people coming, you just do. That is how the game was designed. Frankly it's hard to take what you're saying seriously when it's plainly false.

    P.S. I don't use "lag radar" or whatever.

     

    And i still dont get how you CAN hear a sneaking character. You simply cant as they dont do any sound.

    PS: "Lag radar" isnt about using or not. Depends how old your comp is. You got it or not. You cant influence it.

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  • shaon94shaon94 Member Posts: 41

    Yeah I have to agree you can not possibly hear a sneaking character.  It is just not possible, the only way you woudl know if there was someone in the area is if you got load lag or they made some other mistake. 

  • KshahdooKshahdoo Member Posts: 553

    Lag spikes when even a single person comes into your zone is a client-side thing. The more people come, the longer and stronger lag is. It's a main tool to determine whether you hunt or already are hunted. But yeah, sound is important as well.

  • IzureIzure Member Posts: 518

    Originally posted by dosengan

    in darkfall sound matters.. i can hear a miner from miles away just go towards the sound works just as good as any radar hack

     

    i know alot of people think sound should be for amusement but in darkfall its like this

     

    - if u get a lag spike , probably somebody near u

    - if ure mining / woodchopping u make noise.. ,

    - if ure roaming around and have ure 3d suround uber sexy headset on with sound max u'll notice alot of things u wouldent when u where lissening to ure favorite music :D

    stuff that alerts me just by sound

    - footsteps ( if u spring or walk it makes more sound then when u walk slowly :D)

    - buffing (spells make enough sound .. a single buff of an enemy often saves me :D)

    - players killing mobs ( spells  , melee , archery)

    - just mobs agroing  (when u see a mob cast a spell to ure west and u hear "AAAH" it means a player got hit and is there o,o!)

     

    sound in darkfall tho primitive, its damn handy to lissen to :D

     I actually just made a macro, that will go around a certain hamlet and mine all the nodes, then return to the bank.

     

    but here is the kicker, I also made it so if a GM Tells you, i tiwll respond with a 5 different answers all general of course,

    also if I get a lag spike above a certain amount of ping(load lag when players come in) my character goes str8 to the bank and banks the stuff.

     

    Got to love how easy it is to make a bot indarkfall, all about pixel detection and ping swings!

  • PlutonicwoesPlutonicwoes Member UncommonPosts: 343

    Originally posted by Izure

    Originally posted by dosengan

    in darkfall sound matters.. i can hear a miner from miles away just go towards the sound works just as good as any radar hack

     

    i know alot of people think sound should be for amusement but in darkfall its like this

     

    - if u get a lag spike , probably somebody near u

    - if ure mining / woodchopping u make noise.. ,

    - if ure roaming around and have ure 3d suround uber sexy headset on with sound max u'll notice alot of things u wouldent when u where lissening to ure favorite music :D

    stuff that alerts me just by sound

    - footsteps ( if u spring or walk it makes more sound then when u walk slowly :D)

    - buffing (spells make enough sound .. a single buff of an enemy often saves me :D)

    - players killing mobs ( spells  , melee , archery)

    - just mobs agroing  (when u see a mob cast a spell to ure west and u hear "AAAH" it means a player got hit and is there o,o!)

     

    sound in darkfall tho primitive, its damn handy to lissen to :D

     I actually just made a macro, that will go around a certain hamlet and mine all the nodes, then return to the bank.

     

    but here is the kicker, I also made it so if a GM Tells you, i tiwll respond with a 5 different answers all general of course,

    also if I get a lag spike above a certain amount of ping(load lag when players come in) my character goes str8 to the bank and banks the stuff.

     

    Got to love how easy it is to make a bot indarkfall, all about pixel detection and ping swings!

    I hope you programmed it to answer some of the GM"s crazy questions.  Some will have you spell words backwards, or do math problems, a certain emote, etc.  

  • IzureIzure Member Posts: 518

    Originally posted by Plutonicwoes

    Originally posted by Izure


    Originally posted by dosengan

    in darkfall sound matters.. i can hear a miner from miles away just go towards the sound works just as good as any radar hack

     

    i know alot of people think sound should be for amusement but in darkfall its like this

     

    - if u get a lag spike , probably somebody near u

    - if ure mining / woodchopping u make noise.. ,

    - if ure roaming around and have ure 3d suround uber sexy headset on with sound max u'll notice alot of things u wouldent when u where lissening to ure favorite music :D

    stuff that alerts me just by sound

    - footsteps ( if u spring or walk it makes more sound then when u walk slowly :D)

    - buffing (spells make enough sound .. a single buff of an enemy often saves me :D)

    - players killing mobs ( spells  , melee , archery)

    - just mobs agroing  (when u see a mob cast a spell to ure west and u hear "AAAH" it means a player got hit and is there o,o!)

     

    sound in darkfall tho primitive, its damn handy to lissen to :D

     I actually just made a macro, that will go around a certain hamlet and mine all the nodes, then return to the bank.

     

    but here is the kicker, I also made it so if a GM Tells you, i tiwll respond with a 5 different answers all general of course,

    also if I get a lag spike above a certain amount of ping(load lag when players come in) my character goes str8 to the bank and banks the stuff.

     

    Got to love how easy it is to make a bot indarkfall, all about pixel detection and ping swings!

    I hope you programmed it to answer some of the GM"s crazy questions.  Some will have you spell words backwards, or do math problems, a certain emote, etc.  

    TBH, I doubt the GM's are even smart enough to know I am botting.

     

    Know a few people doing this, and they havnt even got a GM tell once, they do it til this day since EU before xfers.

     

    Besides the GM's are fairly stupid in DFO and limited(not many), probably paid horrible too lol.

  • CecropiaCecropia Member RarePosts: 3,985

    Originally posted by Xianthos

     

     And i still dont get how you CAN hear a sneaking character. You simply cant as they dont do any sound.

    PS: "Lag radar" isnt about using or not. Depends how old your comp is. You got it or not. You cant influence it.

    In most situations you are not going to have someone sneak up on you using crouch walk the entire way. They will usually ride up on mount to a certain point and then dismount and kill you quickly. You do hear the sound of someone dismounting right? Often times they will just kill you while mounted. 

    Even if they did sneak up on you with crouch walking at 100, they are still going to make the odd (albeit tiny) sound at random times.

    Make sure you are not listening to music while playing this game eh.

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  • PlutonicwoesPlutonicwoes Member UncommonPosts: 343

    Originally posted by Izure

    TBH, I doubt the GM's are even smart enough to know I am botting.

     

    Know a few people doing this, and they havnt even got a GM tell once, they do it til this day since EU before xfers.

     

    Besides the GM's are fairly stupid in DFO and limited(not many), probably paid horrible too lol.

    I doubt it's that they're stupid, more like they know if they banned everyone who has earned a ban, there wouldn't be a single player left in darkfall.  

  • IzureIzure Member Posts: 518

    Originally posted by Plutonicwoes

    Originally posted by Izure


    TBH, I doubt the GM's are even smart enough to know I am botting.

     

    Know a few people doing this, and they havnt even got a GM tell once, they do it til this day since EU before xfers.

     

    Besides the GM's are fairly stupid in DFO and limited(not many), probably paid horrible too lol.

    I doubt it's that they're stupid, more like they know if they banned everyone who has earned a ban, there wouldn't be a single player left in darkfall.  

    Hi I am Izure, I try to play legit, I am posting like this because I see it daily in multiple alliances.

     

    One of the reasons why I only log in 2-3 hours a week, I fried graphics card trying to keep up and still only at 335 hp and 75 masteries for 1h/2h and I play melee/archery which is imbalanced and sucks vs any mage who is half decent with a half decent char.

     

    Sad state for DFO ATM.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,060

    Originally posted by Izure

    Originally posted by Plutonicwoes


    Originally posted by Izure


    Originally posted by dosengan

    in darkfall sound matters.. i can hear a miner from miles away just go towards the sound works just as good as any radar hack

     

    i know alot of people think sound should be for amusement but in darkfall its like this

     

    - if u get a lag spike , probably somebody near u

    - if ure mining / woodchopping u make noise.. ,

    - if ure roaming around and have ure 3d suround uber sexy headset on with sound max u'll notice alot of things u wouldent when u where lissening to ure favorite music :D

    stuff that alerts me just by sound

    - footsteps ( if u spring or walk it makes more sound then when u walk slowly :D)

    - buffing (spells make enough sound .. a single buff of an enemy often saves me :D)

    - players killing mobs ( spells  , melee , archery)

    - just mobs agroing  (when u see a mob cast a spell to ure west and u hear "AAAH" it means a player got hit and is there o,o!)

     

    sound in darkfall tho primitive, its damn handy to lissen to :D

     I actually just made a macro, that will go around a certain hamlet and mine all the nodes, then return to the bank.

     

    but here is the kicker, I also made it so if a GM Tells you, i tiwll respond with a 5 different answers all general of course,

    also if I get a lag spike above a certain amount of ping(load lag when players come in) my character goes str8 to the bank and banks the stuff.

     

    Got to love how easy it is to make a bot indarkfall, all about pixel detection and ping swings!

    I hope you programmed it to answer some of the GM"s crazy questions.  Some will have you spell words backwards, or do math problems, a certain emote, etc.  

    TBH, I doubt the GM's are even smart enough to know I am botting.

     

    Know a few people doing this, and they havnt even got a GM tell once, they do it til this day since EU before xfers.

     

    Besides the GM's are fairly stupid in DFO and limited(not many), probably paid horrible too lol.

    No, the real kicker is you are breaking the rules and it doesn't bother you in the least.

    But back on topic, pretty cool how sound plays a distinct role in DFO, more games should consider using this mechanic, sort of reminds me of old school single player games where you could hear the npc's moving around the dungeon and getting closer.

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  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333

    Originally posted by Kyleran

    No, the real kicker is you are breaking the rules and it doesn't bother you in the least.

    But back on topic, pretty cool how sound plays a distinct role in DFO, more games should consider using this mechanic, sort of reminds me of old school single player games where you could hear the npc's moving around the dungeon and getting closer.

    But the radar and isometric 3d person view is pretty standard to the genre and to current established design pattern, if they don't drop that they will never catch up DF i regard to stealth.

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  • mCalvertmCalvert Member CommonPosts: 1,283

    Ganking is just the risk you take when you afk mine. Ive afk mined far more ore than Ive lost due to ganking, 50-1, BUT i dont mine during peak pvp times, and I mine near my clans city, so anyone coming to gank me usually gets them a ganking in return. There simply no way someone can sit and watch mining instead of doing something else.

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