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What's PvP like in Aoc
tazarconan
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I tried aoc at launch and tried came back 4 months ago. At start i quited due to the bad state of the game. 4 months ago i quited cause i found it boring to lvl by killing gaziliion monsters and couldnt find many players to party and do dungeons runs,i kinda get bored by quests to lvl as well sometimes and some rl friends i have were not playing the game at that time so we can lvl together.
One of the main reason all 4 of us still playing wow is that apart raids we play pvp most of all (Arena) and try to get to the highest ratings we can.
So the question is : Does Aoc for the time being has a pvp ladder system like wow's arenas where u can compete 2v2 3v3 or 5v5 brackets? Or it has only outdoors ganging? I know there was supposed to be guild vs guild fights and attacks to each other guild's castle or settelement or whatever but apart outdoors pvp does it have rated pvp system that awards the most skilled pvpiers?
I dont mean to frustrate anyone just wondering so if there is i could convince my friends t get aoc and try it all together.
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AOC was designed from the start to be a hardcore PVP game. Most other games just have PVP tacked on and not a complete system for PVP implemented like AOC does. AOC has PVP mini games and PVP levels along with massive seiges and thats all you really need. Getting your way to PVP level 10 is much more difficult and meaningful then this ladder system from WOW.
Also world PVP really shines in AOC and just simply can't be beat. That is the real reason you find only the world's best PVPers in AOC. Your friends should have a blast and you should certainly reccomend AOC to them since it has always been a PVP game from initial launch unlike WOW.
No it has no competitive PvP and AoC switched focus to PvE, not much PvP stuff in two years and an expansion show that. TBH if you liked arenas, you probably need to wait for guild wars 2 as that franchise is where they came from. I enjoyed them as well and hit top 20 in all 3 in the real BG 9. Interestingly, AoC added a PvP arena but they tied no rewards or ranking to it and hit the pvp arena in the middle of nowhere so don't expect anything to come from it ever.
There is a single PvP mini game map done out of four maps.
PvP in AoC is you get a zerg and you camp a spot and farm rocks for PvP AA and XP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Uy7iCpn9mU there may be competition but in off hours which is all night, morning, and afternood there isn't much competition and during prime time zerg guilds own it.
IDK how guards all over and anti ganking penalties when there are 80 levels helps world PvP but best bang for you time is farming rocks like the video.
Yeah tehre are sieges but pretty much every game has those now.
Funcom has reviewed all of its assets relevant for
impairment testing. This process has led to
recognition of an impairment loss of around
3,1 MUSD for Age of Conan due to a decrease in
numbers of subscribers for the game. Funcom Q4 10 report.
http://forums.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=2926123&postcount=7 500 mains/alts on Tyranny in past 30 days - instead of merge servers let's open a new PvP server, again! http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=106427
Fin how can you comment on something you have zero experience with? PVP is fun in AOC, on Tyranny it's very active in this regard, there's never a shortage of it. If there was I wouldn't be playing.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
A lot by reading forums and maybe I play how would you know? I don't even play WoW so no idea what Cyphers issue is about..I havn't played since early TBC, I been playing Aion recently. I will point out one thing, not many people play AoC and the few that do spent two years waiting for issues to be fixed and not much was messed with about PvP..
Like this post http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=148422
"The state of PvP content:
Minigames: Broken. random vs. premade minis and no penalty for leaving makes the likelihood of a 6v6 match extremely small.
Sieges: Broken. Lag and crash, that's all.
Bori: Broken. At the moment I shouldn't even list this since my post is about PvP, not PvR&T (player versus rock&tree)." remember this is the best PvP XP and PvP AA
Lead developer's response - "The mini-games and the Shrines content is working, and working well."
Or this one about hacks that AoC players use http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=215553
Or this one about how disapointed players are that Shrines of Bori is the best PvP AA in expansion http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=217436
I also know most AoC players are casual or they would take offence to free level 50s and free levels and AA every 4 days and giving out double xp pots like candy. Which to me seems more easy mode than anything WoW or Aion would do. There is a level 80 of the new race with 12 hours played. http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=218573
Funcom has reviewed all of its assets relevant for
impairment testing. This process has led to
recognition of an impairment loss of around
3,1 MUSD for Age of Conan due to a decrease in
numbers of subscribers for the game. Funcom Q4 10 report.
http://forums.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=2926123&postcount=7 500 mains/alts on Tyranny in past 30 days - instead of merge servers let's open a new PvP server, again! http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=106427
There actually is a penalty for leaving, it only lasts like 6 mins though. I would be highly surprised given your track record that you actually play. I've seen a lot of stuff that you say that is completely wrong, I don't speak up all the time, however it does show you most likely don't play.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Like I said earlier: "You do not play the game, you just glance some info from forums and that only selectively."
Anyone can make a claim about any MMO, taking the fiercest whine posts and saying 'see? That is how that game is for EVERYONE that plays it on ALL servers'. Right.
Bori sucks as it is, everybody knows that. What you fail to mention is that your claim of guards everywhere is preposterous and proves you're a liar or haven't played AoC, that PvP is happening enough in certain areas , that minigames are being done all the time (hell, I have friends who hang around them all the time!) and that sieges work on a number of servers.
But who am I kidding? I can try to counter your posts with reason, but it's clear from your continuous posts that you're not in this for a sensible debate, but just to keep on spreading misinformation and half truths.
So: move along people, nothing to see here, and do not listen to the nutjob AoC hater that has been loitering around here like forever.
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lol its so funny
i had this same shit discuss with some aoc fanboys on a forum that i use
so funny how they dont realize how broken aoc pvp is, they dont even try proving that u are wrong, they just rage and say that u cant talk about aoc because u are not playing actualy
fin/pin is right, aoc pvp is totaly broken and funcom wont fix it, because they are a bunch of carebears
No personal offense, but you have no idea what you are talking about if you think pvp in shrines is just mining. Mining is ONE of the REWARDS for those that choose AFTER the PVP. There is PLENTY competitive PVP in AoC.
Also....Shrines is ONE OPTION for PVP. ALL PVP IN AOC DOES NOT EQUAL SHRINES.
Please go post on a game you enjoy instead of this false negative spam.
Often times there is not much beeing contested as many hours are off hours so yeah not much PvP. Secondly during core hours zerg guilds can just dominate the shrines. Now your statement that farming trees and rocks is a reward sounds strange to me. I wouldn't have to play a game to know that mining rocks and trees for hours on end is just not my thing nor the thing of the poster I quoted or many other current players. So that is a pretty lame reward imo, what is the next reward..after clearing a raid instance you need to camp there for days on end until a chest with a random 1-5 day random spawn time pops to reward players with all the loot and then depops 30 minutes later, so loot from all bosses is removed? Sounds like a good reward?
If you like mining rocks and trees that is cool man, many people enjoy collecting stuff for trade skills and since this game has a weak crafting system I understand that this would fill a void. But I don't get how it is a reward as the OP brought up competitive PvP in WoW, it would be like telling the guys with 2200 + arena rankings to go farm rocks for a few hundred hours to collect the gear. However in this many times the shrines go uncontested. In WoW I remember going to BRS where the raids where and my guild would kill 0-3 other guilds on the way to a PvE raid....if WoW decided that those PvE raids would be the best place to get PvP XP I would think the devs where on drugs and farming rocks and trees is much more boring than PvE raids.
Shrines are the best PvP XP and AA so yeah all rewarding PvP is shrines.
Look its cool..clearing out the zone and then farming trees and rocks for a few hours may sound fun to Funcom and certain players but not so much me. In WoW on PvP servers we had to kill players and asian farmers taking the resources whenever we needed ore or whatever but I'm glad WoW never made it a full time PvP effort. But most players seem to disagree with your and Funcom's thesis that Shrines of Bori are all good.
Funcom has reviewed all of its assets relevant for
impairment testing. This process has led to
recognition of an impairment loss of around
3,1 MUSD for Age of Conan due to a decrease in
numbers of subscribers for the game. Funcom Q4 10 report.
http://forums.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=2926123&postcount=7 500 mains/alts on Tyranny in past 30 days - instead of merge servers let's open a new PvP server, again! http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=106427
Thank you for your meaningless contribution, I felt especially awed that you felt moved enough to post for the first time since years.
Now this may be hard to understand, especially WoW fanbois have that problem but in no way am I saying that you're a WoW fanboi (and it's an attitude that applies to all extremist fanbois), but what you find admitting the flaws I see in AoC instead of going on a onesided 'hallelujah' praise post or flaming rant as so many do, is me trying to be fair and honest, seeing the good and bad elements of the games I'm playing.
The rest, that's just opinion and subjective and that's different for everyone.
The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
having played on a PvP server myself from launch and 16 months of the game I do disagree with what you are saying here. There is nothing hardcore about AoC PvP. AoC PvP is flawed in many ways as the idea of FFA PvP is awesome, but the space you play in is too small to make FFA PvP work. World PvP do exist and at times it can be fun, however when you try to level you will encounter so many gankers who will camp you at ress. point for their amusement. At 80 world PvP is about which group is better or largest, and that can be fun. However at times you will end up being ganked by larger groups over and over just because they feel like doing so no matter if you are solo or not giving them PvP xp anymore.
started a new BS at Crom now, the thought of going through fury with the community there and the mentality of those peopel is not tempting. Fury has some good pvpers, but also from all the games I have played the most retarded mentality.
Darkfall is way way more hardcore then AoC ever will be, AoC isn't the worst PvP game I have played, but it is far from the best PvP game. FFA PvP is a good idea, but not when they make the instances too small to easy slip by gankers who only wants to make your life miserable. IMO World PvP is nothing about constantly being ganked, but having the chance to fight some good fights every now and then.
And getting your way to PvP level 10 is a joke with shrines of bori you can get to PvP level 10 silly fast and way too easy. PvP level 1-5 before they added Bori was miles more difficult then reaching PvP10 when they introduced that.
in a word?
shallow.