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FFXI Review by Chopes
Chopes
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For a newbies perspective, its not that great of a game, you start out grinding for a few months until you have the skills to get groups with people who dont use fish bots, and dont just camp in areas, its not a good game to buy if you are a newbie to mmorpgs or if you dont have at least, and i stress at least 5-6 hours to play a day to keep up with the competion, unless you use bots, which most of the community does, no one talks to you as they all are using bots, etc. You get the picture, its not a great game, if you want a good game, I would suggest getting WoW or getting GuildWars which is coming out soon. This game is not newbie friendly and I just dont know.....Somewhat upsetting after spending all that money, and American Express is not accepted!!!
Think about that for a little bit and tell me your responce.
I know most of the games out there at least have someone who would be nice enough to help you out, but when I first loged on and asked people questions, they didnt understand english, or they were botting, and yes I can tell if they are botting because I petitioned a GM and they banned a few of t he users that werent talking to be for botting after awhile.
I am serious about this and I would really like some feedback, I have heard that this game is great at higher levels but comon now, how would you get to higher levels if you cant even start out as something halfway decent and like it.
I would really appriciate a responce to this.
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i would of loved to right a outstading review on this but sadly i have never played nor tried too...
sorry
All my endings are waiting to begin.
Any game situation as a brand new player can be frustrating at first, and even lonely if there is no one to talk to or new be guild, or seeing other players around.........
I brought this offering at the release in U.S. a while back i didn't last a week. The lack of folks to talk to even back at release and having a hard time finding English speaking folks and the world pass to get to other servers ewwwww.
Even though a big fan of the console series this just didn't equate into fun for me in a mmorpg setting.
It is always a risk when getting a game that has been out a long time that no one is in the newbe areas and things demand grouping as this game often did.
That is one of the reasons so much hype is around new offerings, and why so many folks even if happy with what they are currently playing will mmorpg hop. To see if they can land in a place that is fun to them, a community that works for them in a game setting they can stomac for a while.
Look around see what else is out there watch for new releases and good luck on your next gaming adventure, may it be more user friendly to you and may you get some hours of enjoyment from it as well............
I tried FFXI, didn't get past the first month. Yes, I know, it's not much time. But at the low levels it was just so tedious and boring I couldn't take it. It was also VERY anti soloing, meaning if I couldn't find a group I was screwed. While many people like it, it just wasn't for me.
Agreed. I spent two weeks getting to level 12. It was ridiculus. I think Rathma got to level 25 in 3 months. Have to ask him again.
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I got to lvl 10 the same day I started. Got to lvl 30 within the first month.
In War - Victory.
In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.
With how many hours a day? 7?
With how many hours a day? 7?
No more then 5 or 6. FFXI only has a steep learning curve if you try to play it with Mouse/Keyboard instead of a PC Gamepad. I used a MS Sidewinder Pad and it worked out fine. Something with an analog stick would work even better.
I think the longest I ever sat online at one time while playing was about 8 hours. That was the result of me going in living room to watch a movie, and then falling sleep when it was over.
In War - Victory.
In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.
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No more then 5 or 6. FFXI only has a steep learning curve if you try to play it with Mouse/Keyboard instead of a PC Gamepad. I used a MS Sidewinder Pad and it worked out fine. [/b][/quote]
Lol, you're joking, aren't you ?
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I don't think he's joking. I hit level 10 in like 3 hours. After 4 or 5 hours a day for 6 months (with a day or two each week off), i had a level 57 monk, 36 warrior, 25 thief, and a 25 samurai. Had all the special jobs unlocked too.
I had no problems with the UI either; and i've played UO, AC1, EQ, and a bunch of other MMO's. I didn't even use a gamepad or my mouse to play FFXI. Just keyboard was perfectly fine.
I've heard of Japanese groups getting from 1-55 in 3 weeks. No idea how many hours a day they played... but either way, the rate of leveling is entirely dependant on personal and group efficiency. NA players at launch wasted a lot of time because they had no idea what they were doing. In that respect, FFXI isn't very easy to play for newbs; but if you do your research beforehand and get good groups, the leveling isn't really hard at all.
Some of us like FFXI because it was not newbie friendly.
Honestly I like a little challenge in my games.
FFXI is primarly a japanese name, want to communicate? learn to use the translator, or pickup some basic japanese. You would be expected to know the basics if you were visiting their country, a game is no different. If you do not want to communicate then plan on getting stuck in primarily crappy NA groups, and yes I am sorry but compared to the japanese players most NA players suck.
Honestly based on your post, I would saw wow is a better fit
i play wow for almost 3 months, this game is fairly ok, but if i have 4-5 hours free time a day, i will go back to FFXI. Also i am 100% agree with Dekoth's reply.
My thing with FFXI wasn't that I didn't enjoy a challenge. Challenge is great but like any game, when you are first starting off you should be able to enjoy yourself and get to know the game. FFXI setup was just to frustrating for my taste that this didn't happen. I've played several MMORPG before FFXI. Everquest, Dark Age of Camelot, and Star Wars Galaxies.I started with nothing in each one and had to work for what I wanted. The difference between them and FFXI I found was that they were fun. I didn't suffer from not being able to group early on. I could still travel if I did it correctly. The challenge was there but so where the rewards, which was something I didn't see in FFXI. For the amount of time I was putting into FFXI just to travel, group(then group more to get back experience lost from dying in fights or simply trying to travel or trying to get ideas for that stupid subjob quest) what I was getting in return wasn't worth it. People say get into guilds. Kinda hard when you can't becasue you can't get groups to get to know people and when you ask people can you join theres so they can get to know people so you can find peopel to group with they say no.
For those that didn't have these problems and really enjoyed the game, more power to you and I hope you continue to enjoy the game. I wish I could since I'm a huge Final Fantasy fan but it takes more then just the settning for me to be forgiving of the flaws(other things then I mentioned) I found in the game and quit over.
Also the groups I was able to get, twice I was able to group with two Japanese players. We were in the tunnels under the Hume city. The first guy or girl was okay, one of the team members we had had, some hotkeys setup to be able to say things in Japanese and she had the same thing for english. Things went well. Next group I had, another person had the same thing setup to talk to those in Japanese(I was only learning how to do that myself at the time before I quit) and this guy we grouped with had hotkeys for english. We knew he had them cause he used them. Now when we were fight, he went after any and everything. We said wait, he didn't care. People in the group were resting and he did the same. Sometimes he'd stop and others he wouldn't. So I really question when people say Japanese players are better then NA or english speaking players. They can be just as good or just as bad. The simply fact that they are Japanese or been in the game longer doesn't make them better to group with or better players. They can be jerks along with the best jerks in the world(both in game and in real life). This comes from experience in FFXI and also other games as well.
*shrug* I have failed to ever see what people struggle with in that game so badly. Honestly if you have played Final Fantasy, outside a few new features the UI is fairly intiutive. At least it was for me, I never found it uncomfortable to work with, except POL...that thing is irritating.
As for japanese players, I should have clarified that statement. There are plenty of idiot jp players as well, however on my server at least it seemed to be a much smaller number then na groups. 8/10 jp parties I am in I see 250+ exp per kill chain pulling. I think in over a year of FFXI I have ever grouped with one na group that got that kind of exp.
Just a few of the reasons why? Things I have seen outta na players more often then not. Crappy or no subjobs..I mean my god what ever possessed people to think a war/whm was a good combo. Gear that is sub par, If you are level 40 and still wearing level 20 gear, congrats, you are an idiot. People that do not use hotkeys...and my personal favorite, people who do not know how to skill chain and or think they are worthless...I swear these type's of people are like gods cruelest joke..wtf do you mean you dont know how to skill chain? your level 50? wtf! ( yes I have encountered people at lvl 50+ who could not skillchain..And finally, the I dont have any money to use food and drink or buy ranged items, or my new spells, or my new gear and weapon...Then wtf are you doing in a group asshat..go farm something..raise a craft..Anything to make money other then sponging exp off me. I swear the "always broke" crowd piss me off more then any other, making money is pathetically easy if you try.
I have encountered jp players like this as well, however I am just talking proportions here. I rarly run into jp players like this, Darn near every na player I have run into however is. It is rather depressing at times to be honest.
My only complaint I really had with FFXI was their combination of forced grouping with strict grouping requirements. Made it pain to get groups up and rolling, especially once I hit the late 60's. Ended up quitting for this reason around labor day because of the 4 hours a day I could play while schools in session, only 2 at best would be grinding, the rest is gathering a group togethor.
The bi-lingual nature of the servers also added to the already strict requirements as some JP players would rather not invite or be invited by NA ones. (Not that I can really blame them, the average NA player was worse off than the average JA player.)
Ah another complaint I had that was not dircetly related to the game, was that your account went poof after 3 months of inactivity. Was rather dissapointed a month ago when I went to renew for old time sake and finding my poor 69 Blm had passed on.
Few complaints other than those flaws, though the economy was beginning to get out of hand by the time I left. Don't know if it fixed itself though.
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I gave FFXI an honest try. My jobs listed as such: 64 paladin, 56 ranger, 45 warrior, 45 thief, 40 black mage, 40 white mage, 37 ninja, 25 samurai, 25 red mage (and a few lower jobs) So I have a pretty good feel for the game. The problems I had with FFXI from my perspective were.....
1) You pretty much run into your clones (physical and job related armor) on a consistent basis. It's really a long process to level your character it to get his artifact armor and it seems so much "less special" running into 2-3 people in city looking exactly like you and wearing the same gear.
2) There is pretty much one narrow path to follow in this game. At certain levels you are expected to have certain gear and certain subjobs for your character. Any straying from this and it will be more and more difficult as time goes by to get a party. Also factor in for race with your job early. Certain jobs almost demand certain races. Sure you can play any job with any race but an elvaan in good gear will never nuke better than a taru in the same gear. Just like a taru will never tank with the efficiency of a galka or elvaan.
3) Eternal grinding. It took a decent chunk of time for me to hit level 63 with my character and that's only the halfway point in exp totals to reach the level 75 cap! You also have to factor in leveling your sub job and other utility jobs. It really gets to the point where it's a routine like "Level, level, level, farm, farm, farm, do a few quests, level, level, level, etc etc etc" It's pretty tedious. When it gets to be a chore instead of fun it loses its luster.
4) You pretty much need to beg for high level help to get anything good done.
5) PvP is in the form of something call ballista. You need to first quest to unlock ballista, then you need to have the proper gear to participate (ranging from level 30-uncapped) THEN you have to show up in a certain area in the world and hope 5 other people show up or it's cancelled. If it's a wash you have to wait another RL hour+ for the next one to kick off. Furthermore if it does in fact kick off you have to hope that a good balance of jobs shows up or you get your ass kicked. (nothing is funnier than watching 3-4 damage guys chase around 3 non damage jobs for a RL hour) PvP is very obviously an afterthought in FFXI
These are just a few of my gripes, and I'm sure other MMORPG's have some or all of these types of problems. This game is pretty fun at the start until you realize the futility in it. The graphics are decent but the majority of the monsters are skinned the same with different levels of toughness. The economy is failing as well. In my somewhat brief stay in FFXI I saw prices of the good items triple in many cases. I also saw an increasing trend in sloppy play before I left. People with jobs that were in demand running around with gimped subs, half-ass gear and so on. Damn, I guess I can go on and on bashing this game, lol. I had better quit now, I think I've made my point.
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