Oh wonderful, he decided to forego Eve University and go with a small corp. This is like a dichotomy of how not to play Eve.
I guess he does not bother to read the comments on these threads or just ignores them. Oh well, nothing like reading about someone flailing at furtility.
I guess he is having some fun, shame he is missing out on more fun.
And the comment previously about needing two accounts to survive in Eve is pure NONSENSE. I have never had more than one account and do fine, evening mining when I do so....
Oh wonderful, he decided to forego Eve University and go with a small corp. This is like a dichotomy of how not to play Eve.
I guess he does not bother to read the comments on these threads or just ignores them. Oh well, nothing like reading about someone flailing at furtility.
I guess he is having some fun, shame he is missing out on more fun.
What are then the "real" benefits of joining EvE university over a small/friendly corp?
Eve University is one of many training corps out there, but they teach you pvp and take you on pvp jaunts. You can't learn pvp doing pve. They also teach you how to fit ships and survive in this game. Highly recommended for a player who wants to learn the game.
Do a search on Google for Eve training corps, you will get a bunch. I can't vouch for them all, but trying to learn Eve on your own is a task many are not up to.
Eve is about pvp and you need experienced people to teach you how. Solo pvp is only for the highly experienced players, doing it in a learning atmosphere with a group around you is the way to start.
If you are not into pvp of course these corps probably won't help much, but it always helps to know how to survive in this game.
As the author of these here survival blogs I will say that I am grateful for every comment I recieve and I read them over and over again in egotistical pleasure. One day I might print them off and carry them around with me just to prove my worth to people, who knows.
On a serious note however, the comments people have left that impart guidance have been a real help and something I have tried to fit my experience to. The previous posters complaints about me not joining Eve Uni are justified, however, I applied and after waiting a week and getting no further, as I have a weekly article to publish I couldn't just type the words "Week Five, still waiting, join me next week" I ended up finding my corp in desperation and found something that ultimately I love. While I might not be playing the game to your standards; as a new comer to Eve surely my finding of enjoyment is a good thing? I will undoubtedly move to bigger and better things but for the moment, the guys in my corp are easing me into the experience and I really love it.
Oh wonderful, he decided to forego Eve University and go with a small corp. This is like a dichotomy of how not to play Eve.
I guess he does not bother to read the comments on these threads or just ignores them. Oh well, nothing like reading about someone flailing at furtility.
I guess he is having some fun, shame he is missing out on more fun.
And the comment previously about needing two accounts to survive in Eve is pure NONSENSE. I have never had more than one account and do fine, evening mining when I do so....
C'mon Ozmodan. He did try to get into EVE U, but got tired of waiting to be accepted. He found a corporation where he feels like he belongs and is having fun playing the game... is even excited about playing. Explain to me how that makes his choice a dichotomy of how not to play EVE and how he is flailing at futility. How exactly would his joining of EVE U have been more fun than where he is now? Just because someone choses a path different than yours or mine or anyone else's doesn't equate to being wrong and failure.
Oh wonderful, he decided to forego Eve University and go with a small corp. This is like a dichotomy of how not to play Eve.
I guess he does not bother to read the comments on these threads or just ignores them. Oh well, nothing like reading about someone flailing at furtility.
I guess he is having some fun, shame he is missing out on more fun.
And the comment previously about needing two accounts to survive in Eve is pure NONSENSE. I have never had more than one account and do fine, evening mining when I do so....
C'mon Ozmodan. He did try to get into EVE U, but got tired of waiting to be accepted. He found a corporation where he feels like he belongs and is having fun playing the game... is even excited about playing. Explain to me how that makes his choice a dichotomy of how not to play EVE and how he is flailing at futility. How exactly would his joining of EVE U have been more fun than where he is now? Just because someone choses a path different than yours or mine or anyone else's doesn't equate to being wrong and failure.
I've got to agree. I mean, he did apply to EvE Uni and, while waiting, found a group of people he is having fun playing with and, I would wager, learning a thing or two from. Really, the most repeated advice since Week 1 was that he join a corp. Now, he is in a corp that he likes, but it's not the right one? I think, had he not joined this corp, and still been waiting on Eve Uni, we would be reading about an uneventful week where he is wondering why he is still playing, so I think he took the wiser course of action.
I suppose I only have one critique at this point; sucks that, just as everything seems to be coming together for the author, we are looking at he conclusion of the series. I do appreciate that he stuck it out as long as he has, despite falling into a bit of a slump midway. Not sure if he plans to continue playing at all after this series, but if so, it'd be cool to read a future update where he might be doing more then just surviving.
-mklinic
"Do something right, no one remembers. Do something wrong, no one forgets" -from No One Remembers by In Strict Confidence
Originally posted by heerobya Originally posted by Ozmodan Oh wonderful, he decided to forego Eve University and go with a small corp. This is like a dichotomy of how not to play Eve. I guess he does not bother to read the comments on these threads or just ignores them. Oh well, nothing like reading about someone flailing at furtility. I guess he is having some fun, shame he is missing out on more fun.
What are then the "real" benefits of joining EvE university over a small/friendly corp? I am very interested myself.
Yeah seriously. I joined a small/friendly corp and not only do they give me years of advice they have acquired from playing the game for so long, they give me a ton of shit (like Hulks and Player Stations to manufacture with, access to Orcas etc.) and they are actually my friends as opposed to another drop in the bucket. I can trust them enough to set my skills for me while I'm no vacation. If I really wanted to go to school, I would just go back to college. The best way to play and learn the game is through first-hand experience and experiencing it with your friends.
What does EVE U have to offer that small/friendly corps do not again?
As you can see he has been able to join a top tier PvP alliance and get himself ranked in the top 0.1% of PvP pilots.
I myself have 2 accounts, but in practice, 95% of my time is spent on my main. The second account is basically a glorified hauler (Carriers are great for moving ships)
As the author of these here survival blogs I will say that I am grateful for every comment I recieve and I read them over and over again in egotistical pleasure. One day I might print them off and carry them around with me just to prove my worth to people, who knows.
On a serious note however, the comments people have left that impart guidance have been a real help and something I have tried to fit my experience to. The previous posters complaints about me not joining Eve Uni are justified, however, I applied and after waiting a week and getting no further, as I have a weekly article to publish I couldn't just type the words "Week Five, still waiting, join me next week" I ended up finding my corp in desperation and found something that ultimately I love. While I might not be playing the game to your standards; as a new comer to Eve surely my finding of enjoyment is a good thing? I will undoubtedly move to bigger and better things but for the moment, the guys in my corp are easing me into the experience and I really love it.
Well hello there shakermaker0! Nice to finally see ya here even if you are egotistical. LOL
Ya know, advice is a great thing, both given and received. But the real value in advice is being able to distinguish between what is generally good advice in most situations and what is actually applicable to you in whatever you are doing, and then applying or modifying that advice to best suit your needs. Considering the situation, I think you did a fairly admirable job and seem to have found your niche in EVE, at least for the time being, and are having fun doing so which is what playing any game is all about anyway. I also believe your series would be an excellent and very helpful read for any newbie to the EVE universe (and the comments with all of the advice - good and not so good - wouldn't hurt either ). Hang in there, enjoy the game, and maybe someday our paths will cross out there in the space lanes.
A good corp is exactly what I need to actually enjoy EvE because you were very right a few weeks ago.. when you are solo and without direction it is VERY easy to give up.
Meh, least he tried to go into lowsec, hell most people won't even venture out there.
Most people have more common sense... ^^ There are various reasons that more than half the player base stays in high sec, and seldom if ever leaves. Gate camps on the choke points are only one such.
Does survivor guy ever listen EvE Radio? Help's make the game better I think. Every once in a while you'll get some wild report about some huge battle taking place or rat reports and the music choices by the DJ's is awesome.
Hopefully you will stick arround long enough to wet your feet in Soverginity 0.0. There can be epic PVP there. While most my comrades enjoy 20-30 man roams in fast ships I love 200+ ppl on battlefield capital ships slug fest. Mayhem, lag, tears, sweat, adrenalin pumping, Fleet commander barking orders in your ear phones....
What makes me mad is EVE is not the game - its when you end up in fleet with unichs. OMG no wolf, we cant attack ! We might get killed ! In order to have fun you need balls, ISK and balls.
On topic of multiple accounts - I came to phase where its not a problem. My alt can make enough money to finance 2 accounts via ISK ( PLEX ) and my loosing ships like candy habit . Takes a while and takes lots of patience but once you get there - EVE is better then most games.
Then you get bored like allways and go play another game for 6 months.
I didn't see it stated, so I'll try to recall the statistic from the QEN. (Apologies if my number is off a bit.)...
According to the account statistics published in a QEN a while back, only around 10% of the player base run more than one account. (This is the same QEN that had other interesting factoids such as only 5% of all subscribers are really female and the numbers for the players that have been to lowsec or nullsec.) If you have around 300k active accounts, then, that means about 30,000 players run more than one account. I think it also said very few people ran more than two accounts.
As a note: I believe this was the first every QEN, maybe the second. I don't recall and am in the middle of trying to pack to move and don't have time to dig it up.
And the fact that you say mission running or mining is a bad thing. Without mining what would you be flying, your starting ship or your pod nothing else. The minerals from mining is what creates the ships that the PVP'ers blow up. Its a circle each needing each other to exist.
I am a miner and do enjoy mining chatting to corp mates and having a joke about. Mining isnt something you have to do solo. Its something that can be done solo but its mostly enjoyable in a fleet of mates.
Solo mission running or mining is actually a waste of time, it's far from being essential to the market or mass industry. Your contribution to the market as a single player, compared to the resources used (3 alts) is terribly low. You can do much better with a single defense ship, a few haulers (even better if orcas or rorquals), and a whole array (10-15-20) of hulks and covetors, that way the income-per-character is way better (you get some 85-90% efficiency, compared to the 33% you get when solo) and that kind of mining op is set up by mid to large corporations...
Well, I'll leave being "essential" to the market or mass industry to others. I've always played solo, and likely always will. I run L4 missions, mine a bit and collect battleships. Thats what I enjoy, so thats what I do. I'm still a member of SWA, coming up on five years now. I've taken a few vacations over the years, so I only have around 40 million SP. But I can fly all racial battleships, CD stealth bombers and use miners up to Cov. I'd thought about a hulk, but I don't really mine enough(and never leave high sec) so there isn't much point.
Those who go on(and on and on...) about the "wonders" of PvP are missing the point. I have ZERO interest in Eve PvP. I am interested in supporting CCP in what they are doing, but as soon as they make it impractical to solo by running missions in high sec, I will (how ever regretfully) find another game to play. I suspect they realize that more than a few of their player base feels the same way. It may be an alien mindset to the PvP types, but then their willingness to go through expensive ships like popcorn is alien to me. ^^
Just curious, what ship is that in the last picture? I'm curious because it looks interesting and I might want to start playing EVE again... I was a bit turned off to the idea that to really play PvP you need a specific ship (the name escapes me now) but is it possible to use a frigate and still PvP? thanks
Originally posted by Moldy2 Just curious, what ship is that in the last picture? I'm curious because it looks interesting and I might want to start playing EVE again... I was a bit turned off to the idea that to really play PvP you need a specific ship (the name escapes me now) but is it possible to use a frigate and still PvP? thanks
It all depends on what you pick as a target. Several of my buddies do well with ships like the incursus or rifter solo. The key is intelligent target selection and knowing how to avoid traps and pvp gangs.
Just curious, what ship is that in the last picture? I'm curious because it looks interesting and I might want to start playing EVE again... I was a bit turned off to the idea that to really play PvP you need a specific ship (the name escapes me now) but is it possible to use a frigate and still PvP? thanks
You can PvP with just about anything depending on whether you plan on PvPing alone or with a group. When flying with a group, there are many different roles you can fill in various types of ships from frigates to destroyers, cruisers, battlecruisers, all of their variations, and of course the larger ships. Actually, you will find that many a pirate prefer frigates (and some like the destroyers and BCs), especially the solo hunters. And then as stated above, being careful in chosing your target is essential, as well as training the proper skill sets and equipping your ship to its best potential (be sure to pay attention to the bonuses for your particular ship and add the appropriate mods to take full advantage - every little bit helps!). So to answer your question, it is VERY possible to PvP in a frigate. (One of my favorite ships when I'm PvPing with one of my less law-abiding characters is a well equipped Rifter. )
Just curious, what ship is that in the last picture? I'm curious because it looks interesting and I might want to start playing EVE again... I was a bit turned off to the idea that to really play PvP you need a specific ship (the name escapes me now) but is it possible to use a frigate and still PvP? thanks
The thing to bear in mind is that you dont have to fight alone. Every EVE ship has several glaring weaknesses or gaps in it's capabilities. The mechanics strongly encourage you to find some wingmen.
As the author of these here survival blogs I will say that I am grateful for every comment I recieve and I read them over and over again in egotistical pleasure. One day I might print them off and carry them around with me just to prove my worth to people, who knows.
On a serious note however, the comments people have left that impart guidance have been a real help and something I have tried to fit my experience to. The previous posters complaints about me not joining Eve Uni are justified, however, I applied and after waiting a week and getting no further, as I have a weekly article to publish I couldn't just type the words "Week Five, still waiting, join me next week" I ended up finding my corp in desperation and found something that ultimately I love. While I might not be playing the game to your standards; as a new comer to Eve surely my finding of enjoyment is a good thing? I will undoubtedly move to bigger and better things but for the moment, the guys in my corp are easing me into the experience and I really love it.
Meh, least he tried to go into lowsec, hell most people won't even venture out there.
Most people have more common sense... ^^ There are various reasons that more than half the player base stays in high sec, and seldom if ever leaves. Gate camps on the choke points are only one such.
There's nothing "common sense" about avoid 80% of the game because you're worried about losing a cheap ship to gateecamps which are largely mythical. As long as you dont take the most direct route and do basic things like check the map, use a scout, fit for travel and so forth, then lo-sec is extremely easy to enter and leave in perfect safety. I literally cannot remember the last time I lost a ship in lo-sec in a fight that I didn't start. I might have lost a Falcon in Rancer in 2008 because I didn't pay attention to the fact that I'd jumped out of hi-sec, then hit MWD instead of cloak when I did realise. (*blush*)
I added Rancer to my "avoid on autopilot" list and have never worried since.
Meh, least he tried to go into lowsec, hell most people won't even venture out there.
Most people have more common sense... ^^ There are various reasons that more than half the player base stays in high sec, and seldom if ever leaves. Gate camps on the choke points are only one such.
There's nothing "common sense" about avoid 80% of the game because you're worried about losing a cheap ship to gateecamps which are largely mythical. As long as you dont take the most direct route and do basic things like check the map, use a scout, fit for travel and so forth, then lo-sec is extremely easy to enter and leave in perfect safety. I literally cannot remember the last time I lost a ship in lo-sec in a fight that I didn't start. I might have lost a Falcon in Rancer in 2008 because I didn't pay attention to the fact that I'd jumped out of hi-sec, then hit MWD instead of cloak when I did realise. (*blush*)
I added Rancer to my "avoid on autopilot" list and have never worried since.
80% of the game? Are you speaking of the amount of space or available features? If its the amount of flyable space Ill agree.
Empire and Low sec are so big that a person could play Eve and be perfectly happy in those areas. Low sec is almost as carebear anyway, just a bunch of pussies being lead around by a Scout alt trying to engage one pilot with 15+ and hoping that pilot isnt a bait.
Once you fly around low sec more you understand the dynamics and unless your a complete fool its just as safe as anywhere else in empire.
As I said before in an earlier "Survivor Guy", Faction Warfare should be tried out.
Fly cheap ships.
You can do amazing things with knowing your targets and their abilities, then using cheap ships with ewar bonus like tracking disruption for lasers/hybrids, and orbiting close enough and fast enough that the larger ship can't hit any of you.
Eve is the game that keeps on giving... iv been playing on and off for 5 years or so, and I can never really quit because at the end of the day, its the pvp that brings me back time and time again, and real only reason for its longetivity , imo.
As some other people mentioned or alluded to, eve is the only games that really gets my heart racing, creates adreneline well before the battle even starts... to use his omaha beach analogy, the feelings the troops on the landing boats as they approached the heavily defended rocklfaces from sea is the same kind of "oh shit is about to get serious" feeling that happens before every major pvp engagement.
Whether its warping ongrid to wartargets in highsec with my cane or jumping to the cyno beacon in my archon during a massive cap fight, its a feeling of pure terror when you start seeing the chaos unfold, FC calling targets, broadcast for reps start pinging up the watchlist, as your fleet tries to outmeanuever, outplay and out DPS the enemy fleet before he can do the same to you.
I suppose, in a way, Eve pvp is like a squad of marines or infantry , one man leads and takes full responsibility everyone else follows orders, works together as a cohesive unit putting your wingmates above and beyond your own safety. It is this kind of teamwork that really seperates good corps from bad, the ability to work together as a force of nature, to destroy the opposing enemy forces, and live selflessly knowing that your ship may go down but it is the outcome of the fight that matters not the survival or pricetag of your personal ship.
And while killboards are just icing on the cake, the outcome of even a single engagement could determin the fate of an outpost, a system, a constellation. Even in highsec, the land of the "griefer pvp" the desire for one corp to surrender to another and pay ransom could well be determined by the number of BCS lost at Jita undock. 2 nights ago even, a war target of ours rage quit the game in local after we blew up his uninsured drake which was the last ship he had and put all of his life savings into it, to run a level 3 . had I not been able to scan him down in time before he noticed local, he wouldnt have lost his drake and would still be mission running.
Yes, eve can be slow, yes, there can be long periods of boringness between epic battle, just like war IRL... but in the end, its what makes EVE so good... its a game of teamwork, strategy, and empire building... the polar opposite of EVE PVP, WOW, your always fighting, you die in the bg, respawn in 20 seconds, nothing is lost. On the other hand, everything in WOW pvp is truely artifical at best, nothing is ever gained aside from some quick fun and maybe gear... no matter how many times you win alterac vally, you know its just a gimmic because the horde will never really broach out and raze stormwind.... the instance will merely reset at the end, only to begin anew
In essence, EVE PVP is like axis and allies, risk, a game of armchair dominance, and is why it appeals to an older audience... WOW is like a basketball game... its fast and frenetic fun, and maybe competative at times, but no matter how bad the pistons do in finals, theres always next season. In one, you play the role of pre-determined character in a world designed by developers... the other, you start off as a blank slate in a world that is shaped by player action, and choice.
As you can tell, I much prefer EVE, even with its downsides
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Oh wonderful, he decided to forego Eve University and go with a small corp. This is like a dichotomy of how not to play Eve.
I guess he does not bother to read the comments on these threads or just ignores them. Oh well, nothing like reading about someone flailing at furtility.
I guess he is having some fun, shame he is missing out on more fun.
And the comment previously about needing two accounts to survive in Eve is pure NONSENSE. I have never had more than one account and do fine, evening mining when I do so....
What are then the "real" benefits of joining EvE university over a small/friendly corp?
I am very interested myself.
Eve University is one of many training corps out there, but they teach you pvp and take you on pvp jaunts. You can't learn pvp doing pve. They also teach you how to fit ships and survive in this game. Highly recommended for a player who wants to learn the game.
Do a search on Google for Eve training corps, you will get a bunch. I can't vouch for them all, but trying to learn Eve on your own is a task many are not up to.
Eve is about pvp and you need experienced people to teach you how. Solo pvp is only for the highly experienced players, doing it in a learning atmosphere with a group around you is the way to start.
If you are not into pvp of course these corps probably won't help much, but it always helps to know how to survive in this game.
As the author of these here survival blogs I will say that I am grateful for every comment I recieve and I read them over and over again in egotistical pleasure. One day I might print them off and carry them around with me just to prove my worth to people, who knows.
On a serious note however, the comments people have left that impart guidance have been a real help and something I have tried to fit my experience to. The previous posters complaints about me not joining Eve Uni are justified, however, I applied and after waiting a week and getting no further, as I have a weekly article to publish I couldn't just type the words "Week Five, still waiting, join me next week" I ended up finding my corp in desperation and found something that ultimately I love. While I might not be playing the game to your standards; as a new comer to Eve surely my finding of enjoyment is a good thing? I will undoubtedly move to bigger and better things but for the moment, the guys in my corp are easing me into the experience and I really love it.
C'mon Ozmodan. He did try to get into EVE U, but got tired of waiting to be accepted. He found a corporation where he feels like he belongs and is having fun playing the game... is even excited about playing. Explain to me how that makes his choice a dichotomy of how not to play EVE and how he is flailing at futility. How exactly would his joining of EVE U have been more fun than where he is now? Just because someone choses a path different than yours or mine or anyone else's doesn't equate to being wrong and failure.
~ Adder ~
Quick, Silent, Deadly
I've got to agree. I mean, he did apply to EvE Uni and, while waiting, found a group of people he is having fun playing with and, I would wager, learning a thing or two from. Really, the most repeated advice since Week 1 was that he join a corp. Now, he is in a corp that he likes, but it's not the right one? I think, had he not joined this corp, and still been waiting on Eve Uni, we would be reading about an uneventful week where he is wondering why he is still playing, so I think he took the wiser course of action.
I suppose I only have one critique at this point; sucks that, just as everything seems to be coming together for the author, we are looking at he conclusion of the series. I do appreciate that he stuck it out as long as he has, despite falling into a bit of a slump midway. Not sure if he plans to continue playing at all after this series, but if so, it'd be cool to read a future update where he might be doing more then just surviving.
-mklinic
"Do something right, no one remembers.
Do something wrong, no one forgets"
-from No One Remembers by In Strict Confidence
I am very interested myself.
Yeah seriously. I joined a small/friendly corp and not only do they give me years of advice they have acquired from playing the game for so long, they give me a ton of shit (like Hulks and Player Stations to manufacture with, access to Orcas etc.) and they are actually my friends as opposed to another drop in the bucket. I can trust them enough to set my skills for me while I'm no vacation. If I really wanted to go to school, I would just go back to college. The best way to play and learn the game is through first-hand experience and experiencing it with your friends.
What does EVE U have to offer that small/friendly corps do not again?
An additional account can certainly be very useful, but required? No. Absolutely not. Here's the battleclinic record of a friend of mine who I know for a fact has only 1 account: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Spartan%20dax
As you can see he has been able to join a top tier PvP alliance and get himself ranked in the top 0.1% of PvP pilots.
I myself have 2 accounts, but in practice, 95% of my time is spent on my main. The second account is basically a glorified hauler (Carriers are great for moving ships)
Give me liberty or give me lasers
Well hello there shakermaker0! Nice to finally see ya here even if you are egotistical. LOL
Ya know, advice is a great thing, both given and received. But the real value in advice is being able to distinguish between what is generally good advice in most situations and what is actually applicable to you in whatever you are doing, and then applying or modifying that advice to best suit your needs. Considering the situation, I think you did a fairly admirable job and seem to have found your niche in EVE, at least for the time being, and are having fun doing so which is what playing any game is all about anyway. I also believe your series would be an excellent and very helpful read for any newbie to the EVE universe (and the comments with all of the advice - good and not so good - wouldn't hurt either
). Hang in there, enjoy the game, and maybe someday our paths will cross out there in the space lanes.
~ Adder ~
Quick, Silent, Deadly
So ummm what is your corp's name and can I join?
A good corp is exactly what I need to actually enjoy EvE because you were very right a few weeks ago.. when you are solo and without direction it is VERY easy to give up.
Most people have more common sense... ^^ There are various reasons that more than half the player base stays in high sec, and seldom if ever leaves. Gate camps on the choke points are only one such.
Does survivor guy ever listen EvE Radio? Help's make the game better I think. Every once in a while you'll get some wild report about some huge battle taking place or rat reports and the music choices by the DJ's is awesome.
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Im glad your enjoying the game so far
Hopefully you will stick arround long enough to wet your feet in Soverginity 0.0. There can be epic PVP there. While most my comrades enjoy 20-30 man roams in fast ships I love 200+ ppl on battlefield capital ships slug fest. Mayhem, lag, tears, sweat, adrenalin pumping, Fleet commander barking orders in your ear phones....
What makes me mad is EVE is not the game - its when you end up in fleet with unichs. OMG no wolf, we cant attack ! We might get killed ! In order to have fun you need balls, ISK and balls.
On topic of multiple accounts - I came to phase where its not a problem. My alt can make enough money to finance 2 accounts via ISK ( PLEX ) and my loosing ships like candy habit . Takes a while and takes lots of patience but once you get there - EVE is better then most games.
Then you get bored like allways and go play another game for 6 months.
I didn't see it stated, so I'll try to recall the statistic from the QEN. (Apologies if my number is off a bit.)...
According to the account statistics published in a QEN a while back, only around 10% of the player base run more than one account. (This is the same QEN that had other interesting factoids such as only 5% of all subscribers are really female and the numbers for the players that have been to lowsec or nullsec.) If you have around 300k active accounts, then, that means about 30,000 players run more than one account. I think it also said very few people ran more than two accounts.
As a note: I believe this was the first every QEN, maybe the second. I don't recall and am in the middle of trying to pack to move and don't have time to dig it up.
haha nbsi pos ftw! :P
Well, I'll leave being "essential" to the market or mass industry to others. I've always played solo, and likely always will. I run L4 missions, mine a bit and collect battleships. Thats what I enjoy, so thats what I do. I'm still a member of SWA, coming up on five years now. I've taken a few vacations over the years, so I only have around 40 million SP. But I can fly all racial battleships, CD stealth bombers and use miners up to Cov. I'd thought about a hulk, but I don't really mine enough(and never leave high sec) so there isn't much point.
Those who go on(and on and on...) about the "wonders" of PvP are missing the point. I have ZERO interest in Eve PvP. I am interested in supporting CCP in what they are doing, but as soon as they make it impractical to solo by running missions in high sec, I will (how ever regretfully) find another game to play. I suspect they realize that more than a few of their player base feels the same way. It may be an alien mindset to the PvP types, but then their willingness to go through expensive ships like popcorn is alien to me. ^^
Just curious, what ship is that in the last picture? I'm curious because it looks interesting and I might want to start playing EVE again... I was a bit turned off to the idea that to really play PvP you need a specific ship (the name escapes me now) but is it possible to use a frigate and still PvP? thanks
It all depends on what you pick as a target. Several of my buddies do well with ships like the incursus or rifter solo. The key is intelligent target selection and knowing how to avoid traps and pvp gangs.
You can PvP with just about anything depending on whether you plan on PvPing alone or with a group. When flying with a group, there are many different roles you can fill in various types of ships from frigates to destroyers, cruisers, battlecruisers, all of their variations, and of course the larger ships. Actually, you will find that many a pirate prefer frigates (and some like the destroyers and BCs), especially the solo hunters. And then as stated above, being careful in chosing your target is essential, as well as training the proper skill sets and equipping your ship to its best potential (be sure to pay attention to the bonuses for your particular ship and add the appropriate mods to take full advantage - every little bit helps!). So to answer your question, it is VERY possible to PvP in a frigate. (One of my favorite ships when I'm PvPing with one of my less law-abiding characters is a well equipped Rifter.
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The thing to bear in mind is that you dont have to fight alone. Every EVE ship has several glaring weaknesses or gaps in it's capabilities. The mechanics strongly encourage you to find some wingmen.
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There's nothing "common sense" about avoid 80% of the game because you're worried about losing a cheap ship to gateecamps which are largely mythical. As long as you dont take the most direct route and do basic things like check the map, use a scout, fit for travel and so forth, then lo-sec is extremely easy to enter and leave in perfect safety. I literally cannot remember the last time I lost a ship in lo-sec in a fight that I didn't start. I might have lost a Falcon in Rancer in 2008 because I didn't pay attention to the fact that I'd jumped out of hi-sec, then hit MWD instead of cloak when I did realise. (*blush*)
I added Rancer to my "avoid on autopilot" list and have never worried since.
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80% of the game? Are you speaking of the amount of space or available features? If its the amount of flyable space Ill agree.
Empire and Low sec are so big that a person could play Eve and be perfectly happy in those areas. Low sec is almost as carebear anyway, just a bunch of pussies being lead around by a Scout alt trying to engage one pilot with 15+ and hoping that pilot isnt a bait.
Once you fly around low sec more you understand the dynamics and unless your a complete fool its just as safe as anywhere else in empire.
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Fly cheap ships.
You can do amazing things with knowing your targets and their abilities, then using cheap ships with ewar bonus like tracking disruption for lasers/hybrids, and orbiting close enough and fast enough that the larger ship can't hit any of you.
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Eve is the game that keeps on giving... iv been playing on and off for 5 years or so, and I can never really quit because at the end of the day, its the pvp that brings me back time and time again, and real only reason for its longetivity , imo.
As some other people mentioned or alluded to, eve is the only games that really gets my heart racing, creates adreneline well before the battle even starts... to use his omaha beach analogy, the feelings the troops on the landing boats as they approached the heavily defended rocklfaces from sea is the same kind of "oh shit is about to get serious" feeling that happens before every major pvp engagement.
Whether its warping ongrid to wartargets in highsec with my cane or jumping to the cyno beacon in my archon during a massive cap fight, its a feeling of pure terror when you start seeing the chaos unfold, FC calling targets, broadcast for reps start pinging up the watchlist, as your fleet tries to outmeanuever, outplay and out DPS the enemy fleet before he can do the same to you.
I suppose, in a way, Eve pvp is like a squad of marines or infantry , one man leads and takes full responsibility everyone else follows orders, works together as a cohesive unit putting your wingmates above and beyond your own safety. It is this kind of teamwork that really seperates good corps from bad, the ability to work together as a force of nature, to destroy the opposing enemy forces, and live selflessly knowing that your ship may go down but it is the outcome of the fight that matters not the survival or pricetag of your personal ship.
And while killboards are just icing on the cake, the outcome of even a single engagement could determin the fate of an outpost, a system, a constellation. Even in highsec, the land of the "griefer pvp" the desire for one corp to surrender to another and pay ransom could well be determined by the number of BCS lost at Jita undock. 2 nights ago even, a war target of ours rage quit the game in local after we blew up his uninsured drake which was the last ship he had and put all of his life savings into it, to run a level 3 . had I not been able to scan him down in time before he noticed local, he wouldnt have lost his drake and would still be mission running.
Yes, eve can be slow, yes, there can be long periods of boringness between epic battle, just like war IRL... but in the end, its what makes EVE so good... its a game of teamwork, strategy, and empire building... the polar opposite of EVE PVP, WOW, your always fighting, you die in the bg, respawn in 20 seconds, nothing is lost. On the other hand, everything in WOW pvp is truely artifical at best, nothing is ever gained aside from some quick fun and maybe gear... no matter how many times you win alterac vally, you know its just a gimmic because the horde will never really broach out and raze stormwind.... the instance will merely reset at the end, only to begin anew
In essence, EVE PVP is like axis and allies, risk, a game of armchair dominance, and is why it appeals to an older audience... WOW is like a basketball game... its fast and frenetic fun, and maybe competative at times, but no matter how bad the pistons do in finals, theres always next season. In one, you play the role of pre-determined character in a world designed by developers... the other, you start off as a blank slate in a world that is shaped by player action, and choice.
As you can tell, I much prefer EVE, even with its downsides