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Evequest 3 could pwn
pencilrick
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Just a prediction, more a possibility, but I think EQ3 could own the MMO genre.
Reasons:
1) WOW is getting old, even with a new expansion coming out
2) FF XIV is too Final Fantasy, too strange in terms of races, just alien fantasy to a westerner
3) Sony has the resources and devs to pull of a first class MMO, and learning from past mistakes/experiences, could give players what they want
Just hoping they don't muck it up (Smedley) and throw in cash shops and too much instancing and character selection slider bars, and dumb the game down so "everyone plays nice".
I do hope the game has TRAINS. Yes, TRAINS (aggroed monsters can peel off an attack anybody, not just the fool who pulled them.) Really miss TRAINS; made the game alive and dangerous.
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SOE is also known to completely destroy games, e.g., SWG, Microtransactions.
I am looking forward to EQ3. However, I have a feeling that it will house something terrible like XBOX / 360 compatability.
I honestly thnk they never will.
This is contradictory.
This !
Even if they try something at that, the best we're going to get is a theme park with the EQ logo.
Anything is possible, there is little to suggest that this is the course of action soe would pursue.
SOE isn't interested in niche market games anymore. They want blockbusters with huge microtransactions in cross platform games that capture the massive casual market by offering bitesitzed 15 minute gameplay sessions.
The company has neither the desire, talent or abition to make a game that will cater to what players want. The company is run by suits who don't care about games anymore, because they are completely obsessed with revenue models. They decide on a revenue model first and then try to build games around that, which isn't going to produce something awesome.
SOE hasn't done anything great since they got rid of verrant and have been living off their legacy since then.
This is what killed EQ2 for me and while I hate to see it I believe this is the model they will follow. Oh well, I still have Champions of Norrath for the PS2 to get my Norrath fix. What a wonderful world to be abused in such a way.
Sony will never pull off anything what so ever. Bad management and lots of double standards. What happened with Everquest 2 will happen with 3. It will get overshadowed by something, shall I say, better/better managed.
Sony is just as bad with MMO's as Square-Enix. Rather see Blizzard or at least Bethesda. Cause at least I know even if I buy something from them I don't like. At least I know the admins wont pull a 360 worth of BS behind closed doors on me.
When did you start playing "old school" MMO's. World Of Warcraft?
I honestly think it's more likely that we will see the second coming of Jesus Christ, riding in on an impacting astroid while sipping from some frilly, girly drink...one of those with a pink umbrella in it; on January 1st, 2012.
At 7:15 A.M.
Oh, and waving his hat and yelling, "YEEEEEHHAAAAWWW!!", as he rides the astroid down.
This^^^
As long as SOE has anything to do with EQ anything, it will ruin it and everything else it touches. SOE is doing a fine job of making themselves fade away though. GOOD JOB SMEDLEY!
If we ever see another everquest i think it's ganna be console , i love my Pc gaming but more and more console is taking over .
it's kinda sad but the truth
EQ 3 (or EQ next I believe it is called) will be closer to what modern mmo's are. It will be easy for people to get into, it will have cash shops, It will have easy traveling for those who want it. It won't have trains.
Those days are gone until an indy company that has its act together or a mega company that sees a market for that type of game make it.
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Not true...........Have you heard of a game called World of Warcraft? 11 million subscribers and it may even reach near 20mill when Cataclysm comes out. What I am saying is the MMORPG market is strongest on PC then consoles, a game like EQ3 would not go to console as primary release, it may if they chose to go console some time later on or have both versions same release.
I for one would love to see EQ3 come out but it would have to be SANDBOX type for it to work for me properly. I am a EQ vet played over 8 yrs, EQ2 for 4 or so. It would entirely be made graphically advanced knowing how they did EQ2, I would hope they broke ground to even make the first MMORPG in DX11 with multi thread capability. If they could do that there is still a large market for subscriptions because more and more people have upgraded PC's and many are using DX11. The game could also support a DX9 graphics.
Its funny how people are so biased.
SoE gets criticized for 'micro transactions' which have zero relevance to the game, when it was Blizzard that opened the floodgates with their TCG. Once SoE saw how much money Blizzard bleeded out of its subscribers for a 1 in 5,000 chance at a rare mount they developed their own TCG. Which they did a very good job with, creating it for its online customers. People that buy boxes of WoW cards for their spectral tiger can't even play the stupid game if they wanted too unless they have an equally rich friend to play with. SoE made theirs online, so you could play with your guildies or random people, and particpate in tournaments and such.
Then SoE tested out the waters by releasing the same sort of stuff people could 'buy' through the TCG as micro transactions. They made sure it was all just fluff for these transactions (some fo the TCG items were useful in game but never anything that gave a big edge). People may have an issue with the idea of it, but all it did was enhance the game for people tghat wanted an extra couch or a non combat pet or some appearance gear.
Then Blizzard comes along and releases a couple of non combat pets (for quite a bit more than SoE was doing). They sell well. So then they release their 25 dollar mount. It makes them millions in a matter of minutes.
Now unless Blizzard has really bad server technology compared to SoE, it has to cost them less money to run their game, per player, than EQ2. EQ2 is a SIGNIFICANTLY larger world with tons and tons of instanced places, and more importantly, player housing. And EXTREMELY in depth player and guild housing. Also SoE's devolpment team pushes out more content than Blizzard's. And of course Blizzard has the World of Warcraft brand name. They sell their logo and properties for merchandising and CDs and the like, extra revenue stream. Does SoE need the microtransaction money to fund their development and servers? I honestly dont know but you can bet with 2 billion a year in revenue that WoW doesnt.
And then what does Blizzard go ahead and spend developer time on? Player/Guild housing that people want? Oh no, a system that lets you buy and sell on the auction house from the web or iphone, that you have to pay monthly to use. In other words, a cash grab that very, very few of people wanted.
So I never really got this concept of SoE being this overly greedy entity. they are a company, they are in it to make money so they of course do things that are driven by cash. But its not like they arent at least making an effort to give us something in return in many cases. They do work hard for their players. They could have stopped developing for EQ years ago knowing that a significant portion fo their remaining population are 'lifers' that will play til the server is unplugged.
They arent always the smartest company in the world. they finally started advertising EQ2 more a bit and look, its numbers are actually on the rise (granted the source for this is SoE withotu hard numbers, but the people I know that play it say that their experiences in game support this). They actually sometimes listen to their players too much (its backfired on them with EQ1). But they arent some out of control cash wanting monster that doesnt care about tis players like many seem to believe.
Also another example of anti-SoE bias. The NGE.
So lets see...
SWG is released to a lukewarm reception. Obviously released too early, due to pressure form Lucas Arts. It gains some supporters but does nowhere near the numbers SoE or LA expected. Lucas Arts isnt exactly thrilled with the game, citing it doesnt feel 'star warsy' enough.
They announce their Combat Upgrade. Its not a rousing success, but it keeps a lot of their game intact and most people really dont mind it all that much.
They release another expansion and then, out of nowhere...
NGE..with 9 'iconic' star wars classes
read between the lines here a little people...No one knows for sure exactly what happened, but I dont see how you can come up with any conclusion other than Lucas Arts was heavily, if not solely, responsible for the NGE and how it was handled. Yet SoE seems to get the full blame for it.
Yeah, im not happy with every decision they make. But I can say that about any other company. Hell i can go off a long time about what Blizzard has done to WoW (a lot of it to make it easier to develop i might add). I just dont see them as worse than the other companies.
I could list three reasons some in direct opposition to what you list that says it wouldn't happen....
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
EQ3, a big hit?
Only if not produced by SOE.
The next big thing will be GW2, its fresh and inovative. And above all... no monthly fee's and no ingame item shops. But a game like that requires fresh and out of the box thinking and thats not something we can expect from SOE.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
2/3rds of Activision Blizzard's net income was from console games. And no chance does it reach 20 million subs.
Again, people that think other companies arent as bad as SoE arent looking hard enough, or overlooking things.
An example off the top of my head: Blizzard once stated they wouldnt allow PvE to PvP server transfers because its unfair to gear up on a PvE server than transfer over. Then all of a sudden they allowed it. Oh, they say its so friends can play with their friends on other servers. yeah, right....Thats why these transfers that take all of 5 seconds to process are free, or something reasonable like a dollar...oh wait, they aren't.
Their cash shop would never give other players an advantage...And while the mount they released to it is a mount that scales to the users riding level, soemthing which isnt easily available in game (only one i can think of is a mega rare drop from a holiday event), I wont count that as an advantage. they didnt lie, yet...HOWEVER
If you like to play the Auction House, spending more money WILL give you an advantage over thosee who don't with the upcoming offline Auction House subscription
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