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Healers in RoTGS

tryklontryklon Member UncommonPosts: 1,370
in Age of Conan: Unchained

Hello guys. 

im thinking in starting to play this game again, but as a healer I have some questions.

Did any mechanics changed healing-wise?

Whats the best healer class nowadays and whats the focus of each of the healers?

 

Some considerations about how the heal works are welcome, as well as some thoughts about the healer classes.

Thank you very much

Comments

  • goldenkeygoldenkey Member UncommonPosts: 98

    I play a Bear Shaman while the Bear shamans have changed sense release IE not as complicated as they were they are still a very nice change from other healer types you might have come across. I don't play a POM but I hear they play very much like priest in other games. There are other healer classes as well but I know nothing about them. The bear Shamans keep the hots going for the most part with a big heal thrown in from time to time you melee most of the time and keep buffs and debuffs going. The POM is the big single target healer and they have hots as well but from what I hear not as good as the bear shaman.

  • RhowinRhowin Member Posts: 36
    No matter which class the healing in AoC is mainly about hots and the big direct heals debuff the healed player so he cannot profit from that spell for another miniute. The main heals tend to be as well AoE Group heals - hence the positioning is quite important for you as healer and those who need the healing. There is the debuff / buff part as well - however all healing classes are usually as well involved in doing damage / CC.

    The PoM tend to be the most focused healer class and their damage part is 'caster' type of damage. The ToS is a bit more focused on the caster / damage part and the bear shaman is pretty much about melee damage. Due to the complexity of melee combat I tend to consider the BS the most complex class to play of these three while ToS I'd consider the most simple to play (and as always there is plenty of room to master any of these classes).
    Healer classes in AoC are all pretty much on the hybrid / aggressive side if compared to healers in let's say WoW - even if you might get away when playing in groups / raids doing mainly healing you miss quite a bit of potential and 'spamming' healing spells won't do any good due to the mentioned nature of healing in AoC - hots won't stack, direct heals have cooldowns / debuffs.
  • tryklontryklon Member UncommonPosts: 1,370

    Originally posted by Rhowin

    No matter which class the healing in AoC is mainly about hots and the big direct heals debuff the healed player so he cannot profit from that spell for another miniute. The main heals tend to be as well AoE Group heals - hence the positioning is quite important for you as healer and those who need the healing. There is the debuff / buff part as well - however all healing classes are usually as well involved in doing damage / CC. The PoM tend to be the most focused healer class and their damage part is 'caster' type of damage. The ToS is a bit more focused on the caster / damage part and the bear shaman is pretty much about melee damage. Due to the complexity of melee combat I tend to consider the BS the most complex class to play of these three while ToS I'd consider the most simple to play (and as always there is plenty of room to master any of these classes). Healer classes in AoC are all pretty much on the hybrid / aggressive side if compared to healers in let's say WoW - even if you might get away when playing in groups / raids doing mainly healing you miss quite a bit of potential and 'spamming' healing spells won't do any good due to the mentioned nature of healing in AoC - hots won't stack, direct heals have cooldowns / debuffs.

    I know, and thats whats turns me a bit down on this game. I fancy a more classical approach to healing, like WoW, Aion, lotro etc

    I still cant decide about resub

  • RollieJoeRollieJoe Member UncommonPosts: 451

    I tried all 3 healer classes up to about level 40, and did many hours of research gathering about each healer class at max level.  Compared to other fantasy MMO's such as WoW, EQ2, FF, Lineage, etc. etc. I think it would be fair to say that there are no "true" healers in AoC, by design.  Each healer is more of a hybrid who is meant (and designed) to do at least as much damage and/or CC as healing. 

    Depending on whether or not you like playing healers in other fantasy MMO's you may like/love or dislike/hate AoC's healers.  I'll take a WoW example, if you really enjoyed playing a resto druid/shaman, or a holy priest/pally, you probably will not like AoC's take on healing.  However, if you enjoyed say, a hyrbrid Balance druid, enchancement shaman, ret pally, or discipline priest you may find AoC's healers to be even better.  

    Myself, I was dissapointed that they didn't include at least 1 class really focused on healing (at the expense of damage/CC ability).  I certainly understand some people don't like to feel constrained to being a "healbot" but others of us do enjoy playing that role, which does not really exist in AoC. 

  • RhowinRhowin Member Posts: 36
    I had somewhat mixed feelings as well first about this and while I'd enjoy as well a more 'pure' support / heal class I see the problem when trying to include both in a game - in all other MMO's I played so far the healing classes had to decide to be either a healer or a DD. Two hybrids were usually less effective compared to a pure DD / healer combination. I hope that while AoC evolves they include new buff / heal mechanics - but the spam healing path of other MMO's isn't quite to my liking either and I appreciate it's more on the tactical side of things and you are pretty much limited in outhealing mistakes of others.
    As with many aspects AoC is 'different' and it's best to see in game if you enjoy it or not. I do enjoy playing a BS very much - it's the way I would have hoped the shaman in WoW would have turned out. I admit I did enjoy playing a holy priest in WoW when it was much more about resource menagement compared to the healing nowadays. I you haven't played AoC in a while I'd suggest that you give it a chance since it plays much more fluidly nowadays - obviously there is no 'best', 'better' or whatsoever, but it will definatly provide an alternative and you might enjoyö
  • DraemosDraemos Member UncommonPosts: 1,521

    I know, and thats whats turns me a bit down on this game. I fancy a more classical approach to healing, like WoW, Aion, lotro etc

    I still cant decide about resub

     PoM is the most classical approach to healing, although if you truly enjoy purely healing then AoC might not be for you.

  • tryklontryklon Member UncommonPosts: 1,370

    Originally posted by Draemos

    I know, and thats whats turns me a bit down on this game. I fancy a more classical approach to healing, like WoW, Aion, lotro etc

    I still cant decide about resub

     PoM is the most classical approach to healing, although if you truly enjoy purely healing then AoC might not be for you.

    What do you mean with most classical? Is it expected to dps also?

    Plus, if the hots and heals do not stack, whats the point of taking, lets say, 2 PoM to a raid? Or the raid generally takes only 1 of each class and works fine with just 3 healers?

  • BesCirgaBesCirga Member Posts: 806

    There are some inaccurate infomation here in regards of how AoC healing works. May I suggest you give this a read and you will get a better understanding of the heal system in AoC.

    PoM:

     http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=71811

    I absolutly love my PoM and I have been a "classical healer" in all my favorite mmo's.

  • DraemosDraemos Member UncommonPosts: 1,521

    What do you mean with most classical? Is it expected to dps also?

    When I say classical healer I mean you pretty much just spam a variety of heals, and thats your whole job.

     Depending on the class, you'll be expected to DPS(ie a ToS or BS).  PoM aren't really expected to DPS too much, but they are expected to CC alot to help mitigate damage.

    So you'll never just fall into a pure healing roll, like you would in Warcraft or Everquest, or even Aion.  It's a more entertaining way to play healer classes in my opinion, but if you just want to be a pure heal bot... you might not like it.

     

  • tryklontryklon Member UncommonPosts: 1,370

    Originally posted by Draemos

    What do you mean with most classical? Is it expected to dps also?

    When I say classical healer I mean you pretty much just spam a variety of heals, and thats your whole job.

     Depending on the class, you'll be expected to DPS(ie a ToS or BS).  PoM aren't really expected to DPS too much, but they are expected to CC alot to help mitigate damage.

    So you'll never just fall into a pure healing roll, like you would in Warcraft or Everquest, or even Aion.  It's a more entertaining way to play healer classes in my opinion, but if you just want to be a pure heal bot... you might not like it.

     

     TBH I do enjoy being an heal bot =P and thats whats keeping me away from this game, that and the fact the no heals stack, so it becomes very boring when you are always limited in the ehalers you need and have to stay using always the same hot and the occasional big heal with a huge cooldown

  • MacamusMacamus Member Posts: 134

    Healing is this game is rather dull imo if you really want to be a pure healer.

    I got a 80 Tempest of set and I got 3 healing skills  2 hots and a big heal with very long cooldown and none of them stack or anything... so you throw the 3 spells in 5 secs or something then you dps and cc for 30 secs until you can throw the hot again....

     

    Not fun if you are looking to play a active healer

  • tryklontryklon Member UncommonPosts: 1,370

    Originally posted by Macamus

    Healing is this game is rather dull imo if you really want to be a pure healer.

    I got a 80 Tempest of set and I got 3 healing skills  2 hots and a big heal with very long cooldown and none of them stack or anything... so you throw the 3 spells in 5 secs or something then you dps and cc for 30 secs until you can throw the hot again....

     

    Not fun if you are looking to play a active healer

     Yep, think im gonna pass it for now.

    Shame, as this game really looks good now, except for the UI and the crafting/gathering that still needs a good work =P

  • catlanacatlana Member Posts: 1,677

    Originally posted by tryklon

    Originally posted by Macamus

    Healing is this game is rather dull imo if you really want to be a pure healer.

    I got a 80 Tempest of set and I got 3 healing skills  2 hots and a big heal with very long cooldown and none of them stack or anything... so you throw the 3 spells in 5 secs or something then you dps and cc for 30 secs until you can throw the hot again....

     

    Not fun if you are looking to play a active healer

     Yep, think im gonna pass it for now.

    Shame, as this game really looks good now, except for the UI and the crafting/gathering that still needs a good work =P

    Yeah, the crafting definitely needs work. There are some alternative UIs out there.  

    On the topic of healers, I am still leveling my baby PoM. PoMs are the most traditional of the healers. PoMs have alot of healing tools that could be alot of fun if they were more useful.  Throwing Lances that heal allies and harm enemies is alot of fun, the main issue is that they are so mana intensive so that it is usually not worth throwing unless on a proc that makes them free. PoMs are far and away the least played class.  

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