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This is pretty much my entire point regarding the lifers being cheated.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
This is my concern as well. I know we got 500 points each month, and we keep what we already had. But the problem I see is those lifetime guys like me are going to get milked now for cash we otherwise would not have spent. That is how I see it but were not the only ones getting the thumb screws, the new kids on the block are going to totaly have to pay to keep up. So there cost are going to be triple or quadruple what a 15 dollar a month sub was and or is.
This will only mean good things for this game, imo. I'll start playing it again when it's f2p. Looking forward to it.
an interesting development. i think i'll be playing this one, at least for a while.
I just resubbed to this 2 weeks ago. LOL cant believe they are doing this already. It's good and bad. I hate ingame stores like SoE and other games have. It ruins the game to a certain extent. Buyable mounts and endless rest XP, shit like that makes the leveling process easier than what it should be. On the other hand, the population could desperately use more players, and going F2P is a solid way of getting a ton of them. I just hope the GMs will stay strict on gold farming and keep BS out of the game.
Some people just know beter, but I guess that is not appreciated.
Anyway, it looks like a drastic measure, and I thought they were doing well.
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Are you on their payroll? Man, you really dont know how it is do you? The I win button is there, yes it is! XP potions ,etc. galore in DDO and it is already said in the forums they will be in LOTRO too! If they really want to please the lifetime subs, then give them unlimited coin for the shop, if whats in there isnt really needed! But hey, they dont do that, so you know they arent telling the truth!
You know, new players can become VIPs aswell. If you end up paying more than 15/month then just subscribe.
The F2P is most of all for casual players who just want to spend a little here and there. Hardcore player or thoose who play alot will probably end up VIP after awhile. Thats the good thing about this model, it give us the players options and flexibility.
If WoW = The Beatles
and WAR = Led Zeppelin
Then LotrO = Pink Floyd
Most of the potions in the DDO store can be found in-game, and it's been said over and over again about how pointless it is. The one exemption is the XP potions that give between 10-20% boosts.
Now, seeing how if you own a sub, you get points allocated every month - so just having a sub means gratis potions on top of the unlocked content that everyone else is paying for individually. I say it works fine, because it sucks balls to repeat missions for xp, and anyone with a sub is welcome to a share of these potions where people like me would have to buy them out-of-pocket (which I don't do).
Oh those poor idiots with the sub, amirite?
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I'm glad LOTR is going f2p. I'll certainly be giving it a try now. As an older man with kids ..I won't be one of those obnoxious people f2p tends to draw. I understand how many feel though about the f2p crowd though.
It makes me think about the difference between people who own their houses vs. people who rent their houses. I own my house, but all around me are investment properties that are rented out. Without fail....those property's that are rented out are not maintained well. This is because it's all about the money to the owner and the renter has no ownership and thus no true commitment to the community.
F2p has much of the same elements to it. It brings extra revenue to the owner, but tends draws people who have no commitment to the community and thus act recklessly. Over time...the owners too tend to invest less and less into their investment too, doing just the bare minimal to keep the renters happy.
welcome to the future of MMOs and you know what it's not bad.
MMOs are doing willingly what cable companies were forced BY LAW to do
offer a la carte
basically all those monethly plans that cable companies offer can easily screw you over, aka how many of those 900 channels do you actually watch, so ther ewas a law passed that said that cable companies had to if asked offer single channel plans
so in my example I only watch science travel comedy discovery and nat geo.
I could pay a monthly fee for those channels individually in fact with just those 5 it would save a butt load of money.
now if I were to get all 900 channels individually it would cost a fortune. Now the law is funny they have to offer only if asked and noone thinks to ask.
So MMOs are just going the cable company route without being told.
But yea I cant believe they are going with evil cash shops you wouldn't see WOW doing anything like that, now if you'll excuse me I need to go get a wyvern plushie, a battle.net authenticator keychain, a constelation mount, then buy enough packs of their TCG game to get myself a spectral tiger mount.
People assume that if game is F2P then players will swarm it. Here you are wrong. F2P crowd will ditch this game soon after realising that they can't fully enjoy it if they don't spend real money on it.
There are tons of F2P games with no limitations and everything there is possible to achieve without spending a single cent (all you have to do is invest more time than those who are spending real cash).
Sorry but from what I have seen here: http://www.lotro.com/betasignup/vipchart.html I can tell that no sain player will stay with this game for more than few weeks. Free players and even a Premium ones have way too many restrictions. Why would anyone want to invest their TIME into a game which offers unfair terms to different kind of players.
They are basing this decision off of the fact that with DDO people did swarm it. DDO was a success.
Heck tehy are using the same buisness model as free realms and they just had a celebration recnetly because they reach 2 million subscribers.
the hybrid model is working. so that is the direction they are going in
Just wonderd if anyone know's what will happen to people with serial codes unused?
I dont mind the free to pay scenario but only if they make premium or vip ONLY servers for those of us who have been loyal i for one dont care if its free its the assclowns f2p games tend too draw in and if you thing gold spam is bad in p2p games wait till it hits f2p. I want premium and vip only servers just too keep the communitys we have created intact especially landroval server the rp server great community loved it now its gonna go down hill.Not saying all f2p players are assclowns but there is a ton.
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I just love the "we don like yer type round 'ere" mentality
Your analogy is dead on over time were going to be getting less of a game, I fail to see how this is good, but then lotro had almost stoped doing anyting other than the festables. I mean the dev team has not done anything and now we know why they are working on gettting ftp in place. Good for the new kids bad for the folks who are at max leve with all theire toons.
Oh well so much for lotro, it will be great for the new kids on the block those of us who been around since the meo days well only time will tell if this is a good or bad thing.
Righ now it totaly blows that there will be no new content until around december.
Looks who's making assumptions. I say pay to win because that's exactly what it means and I hate it. period. Pay to Win does not just apply to PvP, it applies to PvE where things like super pots, res pots, xp pots, sometimes weapons or attack buffs make peopel that pay considerable sums of money better than everyone else. This is common in all free to play games including DDO, and it's nothing I care to play. You are allowed to have your own opinion, but dont invalidate mine because of your ignorance.
How did you guess? Lol, I had a dwarf following me around on my elf going "You're hott! Wanna make out?!"
Wow, it seems there is quite a bit if illiteracy in this thread.
1) The people who are ALREADY paying to play lose nothing. There will CONTINUE to be a monthly sub option, and you will get everything you have now AND MORE.
2) The people who are current LT subs likewise lose nothing. You will automatically have access to the premium content(aka the full game, just like you do now) for free, without having to pay per month like non-LT players.
On top of all that, you will have more people trying the game than ever before, and at least some of them will turn into paid members. The end result is there will be more players, more revenue, and more content being developed from that revenue. The "free" version is basically just a glorified demo.
You want to know something? You don't have to play to win ANYTHING. I played a f2p game for YEARS and I was one of the top 3 of my server, I didn't pay for anything. I worked hard and did what I could to make myself the best. You just need to stop looking at f2p games as something horrible, why don't you try working hard on a f2p game like you do a p2p game, it will all be good. Don't give f2p games a bad rap because you have trouble.
You do realize that you people who pay the monthly sub wont need to "pay to win"
your given points each month to spend on these hypotheitcal res pots and xp pots.
People have been trying to explain that since the beginning, you can't explain that to those who do not listen.
Exactly. Why should we believe them now when they outright lied to us on numerous occasions promising us the game would NEVER be free to play, selling us lifetime subs, then dumping this heaping pile of... on us... You REALLY expect us to believe the words of people already proven to be liars?
After DDO went F2P I made an account there (so I'm one of 2mln I guess). Took me a day to realize how unfair it was to those who don't wan't to pay. So i quit.
I have no doubt that lots of accounts are being created daily but how many people do actually stay with this game and for how long? Player retention rates - this is what matters.