Originally posted by -Vampyre- You really think its that bad eh? You are wrong you are just mad because you cant play for free anymore. For your information PwG already has a patch in the works that will fix the majority of the bugs and make the game sooo much better. But you know what? You are going to miss that. Why? Because you are a beta hopper that loves to cry when a game costs money.
I really think this is the case here. Many people love to spam the RYL and other Forums when the topic of $$$ comes into play. They got it for free and they want to keep getting it for free. These people, typically kids, have absolutely no concept of Server Hardware costs, Bandwidth costs, Support Team costs, or anything of a real-world nature.
And to be more precise about the specific scenario of RYL:PotE, Planetwide Games has little to nothing to do with RYL's development sadly. They're not even game developers, they're software testers and producers. Youixiland, some Korean company does all the game coding and development. PwG simply sends off to Youixiland, what they need for our North American version, and Youixiland codes it. When they're done, the patch gets sent to PWG, and they test it and apply it to the NA servers. PWG is at the mercy of Youixiland in the whole situation, just as the RYL:PotE Community is.
Originally posted by Dark-$age Originally posted by janrabbitam i a Beta hopper cause i only play Betas but only cause im 13 and havent got a credit card or even any money to pay for it but does that make me a Beta hopperif u actually like the game but can't pay for it thru no fault of ur own, then not really. a beta hopper is someone who only plays a game coz it's free and doesn't life a finger to help it, then, once the beta is over, they criticize the game for all it's worth.
And "all it's worth" to the Beta Hoppers in the end is exactly what they paid: Nothing. The game is well balanced, well polished, and is still has an active development.
Ignore criticism by the Free-loading Beta-Hoppers!
Unfortunately (or fortunately) I wasn't able to play RYL due to some server bug or something else which prevented me from logging in. Anyway, judging by character creation screen, visuals are quite decent. As for gameplay and storyline, I got a feeling the whole thing was ripped off Knight Online (or vice versa, not sure). Given this resemblance (although RYL seems to be more diverse and advanced), I believe those who stand against RYL have strong grounds based on something more substantial than this game going P2P.
I myself am quite skeptical towards "fun" this game has deliver, but the reason is rather my general disappointment in Eastern MMORPGs.
As with many others in our community, i was a beta hopper. If it wasn't free, i didnt want it. I started on RYL MY, enjoyed the game for the most part, and went to leave. I was then told about the North American version of the game. Not wanting to leave a game in which i hadnt completed yet [which is possibly why i love RPG so much: Its harder to complete one] never mind gotten far, i went along with installing this version, and playing it.
Skipping some time, im now a Guide in the game, and will actually be paying for the game.
Uhm, i'd say more, but i'll do that next time. Only a few hours till work and i have to get SOME sleep because i drive. >.<
Originally posted by Kujox haha i can see how you say that...especially knowing they stole the game from the korean version and just change it to english...its dumb it will last about 2 weeks after p2p
Well, RYL won't do as well as all those A-list mmorpgs that is out there. We just have to close one eye for those minority of the people that thinks this game is worth playing.
yay, i'm one of those you need to watch out for, i've been playing ryl for quite a while and i've only been playing the north american version. i'm one of those people that can see potential in a game, this is a very nice game compared to others i've seen. i'm not sure what kind of personal thing some people have against planet wide games, but i've seen worse games with even worse support than this game.
Originally posted by Wagnard Unfortunately (or fortunately) I wasn't able to play RYL due to some server bug or something else which prevented me from logging in. Anyway, judging by character creation screen, visuals are quite decent. As for gameplay and storyline, I got a feeling the whole thing was ripped off Knight Online (or vice versa, not sure). Given this resemblance (although RYL seems to be more diverse and advanced), I believe those who stand against RYL have strong grounds based on something more substantial than this game going P2P. I myself am quite skeptical towards "fun" this game has deliver, but the reason is rather my general disappointment in Eastern MMORPGs.
You weren't able to play, and you're judging the game. Three words: What, the, and hell. I also have a couple more words but I doubt you'd want to see them here.
People who stand against RYL and PWG have no ground to stand on. This game is in beta, and what's the purpose of beta? To test the game, find the bugs and insecurities, and fix them. If you really need some one to bitch to about your personal problems find a mirror and get lost. The most logical thing to do when there's a bug you don't like is to help fix it, they even hold IRC based meetings with the player community to further their effort in fixing bugs.
Of course you wont help though, you're a beta hopper.
hey ,this game is a big load of crap, just deal whit it nerves,hipertension and wannabe inteligent comments are unhealthy, so... all of you bunch of non expereicned on mmorpgs fanbois , just calm down , relax , enjoy life and play real games ok?
pd: when some formula works, why ppl try to change or improve it? Ultima online the best mmorpg ever!!!
I just hope the character creation process gets more indepth....as is reminds me of FFXI character select...not much customization. Also, I firmly believe in camera control and movement being allowed by use of Mouse AND keyboard, and this should be default, like WoW and SWG have it. So, on that note, I agree with the OP although I wouldn't be so vulgar about it.
I've been playing RYL: Path of the Emperor for around a week now, not a bad game, but not great either. I agree with some of the things bezado said. One of the major desiding factors for me was the lack of things to do other than combat in one form or another. Sure, PvP is fun and I enjoy it, even had some fun duels with several players, lost a few won a few, and even watched a good sized guild battle it out with another. The grahpics are nice, and the combat effects are exciting. Still, I found my self eventually getting burned out on killing things, waiting for that next level, and looking for that next piece of C or better Armor and Weapons. Quests were fun, the few that I did. The game really needs more though, lots more. I think for the games purpose, its done well, and I'm sure it will do ok on the market as a Pay to Play game.
I know the beta had exp. and item drops turned up during this period, which is another reason for my discouragement. It's going to be that much more time consuming when the game goes live, and personally, It reminds me to much of eating "Top Ramen" every day for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Sure I love the stuff but I want variaty, and I feel thats one of the most important things RYL is missing, and 90% of the other MMOG's on the market for that matter.
Anyways, If I had to give RYL a rating from 1 - 10, it would have to be a 6. I give them props for style, graphics, sound and combat (PvP included), but its missing a lot of features that would of made it that much more enjoyable to a larger array of players. I recommend RYL to the hard core players, and people that enjoy PvP.
Heh sounds like some ppl just cant take that a mmorpg can be to difficult for some kids. Can see if someone thinks the game is SO bad... If they get killed all the time.
Then why start a threat and let everyone know you stink at this game... instead of just drop it and then forget all about RYL
I seriously doubt alot of these "experienced" mmorpgers are that experienced.. if they think WoW is awesome with it's cartoony look and hug-a-bear feel. Click and watch is so retro... They need to boost that game to live action... I don't see how you can just click, and wait for something to happen... that's so slow and stupid........ It's like playing a RPG on the super nintendo.. but with better graphics.
but seriously... Why dissing on a game that you've most likely haven't given much of a shot? and some of the "experienced" mmorpgers say this game is horrible in graphics.. if you are so experienced you'd know graphics don't make the game, the fun playing the game does.
Well. I'll give a different aspect of the game. I have played it from Alpha on PWG and was a normal beta tester from MY (CiB) Version. I played Alpha for PwG and started as a player and worked my way into vGM. I dedicated most of my time to helping players. So whoever used the arguement that the support stunk is sadly mistaken.
Most of the people who are down talking NA-RYL either only played the beta or don't understand the meaning of a beta. A beta test is for players and staff to test all aspects of the game. This includes everything from bugs, events, PvP, graphics, stability, over all quality, and to testing the will of the GMs/staff. NA-RYL has come a LONG way from when it started, as any Beta/MMORPG should. It has never gotten worse then what it was before and will only get better.
The people who sit back an complain I bet don't even have a membership and or pay for the game. Also, they never got to fully enjoy the staff and or game as I did. Between Chip, Kyle, Mike, And all the vGM in the program, For the most part they were great. Just having random conversation with them could make the game that much better. The staff in the game know what/how to make their players happy (atleast the majority of them.) If you had a problem, most of the time they would solve it in a timely fashion. The Staff in the game knew how to keep the community happy and show them a good time.
As for the community, It had a lot of problems. Between players blaiming everything on the staff instead of trying to help with the problems and report bugs it got hectic. Yet at the same time, the community for the most part had a great time and stuck up for each other. There are strict enforced rules by the vGMs and though you can't catch every bad apple, they caught a mass majority of them.
Now compare NA-RYL to any other MMORPG that is P2P. Show me 1 MMORPG that is 40 buck for 7 months of game play and I'd be shocked. I pay that in 2 months of Everquest II and WoW... This a game for the masses and has alot of potential.
If you want the real story of how the game plays, listen to the players that are still paying to play, they usually know the truth cause they are actually paying to play it.
I agree that the players were very unruley at times, but PWG always remained as helpful as possible. Now that P2P comes it's like a curse has been lifted and the bothersome players have left the game.
Originally posted by Malicus Its horrible. I have 2 other friends that tried to play and I have played for around 3 weeks. It is extremely buggy and the support is the worst i have ever seen. They dont even seem worried about fixing crashing issues on all ATI cards before release. The staff holds sham events in which they give out mp3 players, dvds, etc that are impossible to redeem. The GMs actually brag about going invisible and or changing location after posting a location they will be to do their job. Purposely give their clients the runaround. Although its the North American Version they do not honor Canada prize redemption. The bugs make it virtually unplayable for most computers. Lag is the worst i have ever seen with no improvement since conception. The Combat system appears advanced at first but when you realise the ladder system is way unbalanced it leaves you feeling very unsatisfied. Becomes a game of one hits in pvp. No strategy and battles are won or lost way too quick no matter your level or skill level or equipment. Overall horrible game. No matter how much time you invest or what aspect you look at will leave you feeling ripped off and cheated. Disturbingly overpriced . Open beta lasted 1 month. Amateur moneygrab
Its called an Open Beta for a reason. *tosses a dictionary*. That's B-E-T-A, beta.
And oh, about the GMs. I've never experienced any troubles with the GM in that game. Though they can't be always around to help you out (since it was in the beta stage and there trying to work on the game), there are people we call "Guides" in that game that can assist you. And oh, if you supply us with a name of a GM that "bragged" about being all that, supply us a name. I don't think any GMs would do such a thing.
"Sun is bad for you. Everything our parents said was good is bad. Sun, milk, red meat... college."
Originally posted by Azzazel hey ,this game is a big load of crap, just deal whit it nerves,hipertension and wannabe inteligent comments are unhealthy, so... all of you bunch of non expereicned on mmorpgs fanbois , just calm down , relax , enjoy life and play real games ok?
pd: when some formula works, why ppl try to change or improve it? Ultima online the best mmorpg ever!!!
For someone who's trying to insult other people for making a smart-ass comments, you sure can't spell right. Here's a site for you just to save the embarrassment: http://www.m-w.com
There, now you can spell some words right.
"Sun is bad for you. Everything our parents said was good is bad. Sun, milk, red meat... college."
im pretty sure that my english spelling is better than your spanish ....so in the future ,try to be a little bit more open minded ,learn spanish and show us, how good you are trying to express yourslf on my language ok?
Well then, go ahead and amuse us with your spanish. And oh, I am open-minded. I just don't tolerate people who are such an assenine to other people who's trying to make a comment and twisting it to make it sound like a smart-ass comment open for flaming.
Oh, and I'm not quite good in spanish but here's the translation of my response just to enlighten you.
Bien entonces, va adelante y nos divierte con su espa
"Sun is bad for you. Everything our parents said was good is bad. Sun, milk, red meat... college."
Omg .. please don`t use google translater nevermore.... that translation looks weird.. another thing, wtf you mean whit "assenine"?.. maybe you are the one who needs the dictionary?...
Nah. Not using google. Trying to construct words from my dictionary and from my know-how of Spanish from trying to learn it for a week. Anywho, I ain't bashing you or anything. I'm just stating an opinion.
"Sun is bad for you. Everything our parents said was good is bad. Sun, milk, red meat... college."
Name of the GM was Hussein so look it up on the ryl forums. Some people wont beleive anything until it happens to them. Or could you be another kiddy fanboi sent from there?? There is alot of griefing by gms and as for it being beta thats no excuse for the way they mistreated potential customers. As you can see its coming around to bite them in the @&;&
Well, if you had any GM problems, you should have reported it in the forums. And no, I'm no fanboi. I'm not even paying for the game. I just support the game since I loved it when it was on beta.
"Sun is bad for you. Everything our parents said was good is bad. Sun, milk, red meat... college."
Malicus is mad because he doesn't know how to follow directions that we plainly stated in the forums. He's also mad because he lives in Canada and was not able to get prizes from PWG.
I tried to help him with his problems but all he did was complain. He's a complainer and there is nothing more to say about that.
Originally posted by Kujox haha i can see how you say that...especially knowing they stole the game from the korean version and just change it to english...its dumb it will last about 2 weeks after p2p
Originally posted by Kujox haha i can see how you say that...especially knowing they stole the game from the korean version and just change it to english...its dumb it will last about 2 weeks after p2p
It's been 2 weeks...
yeah.. it's been 2 weeks and the game is getting better and more exciting...
Hey this game is not what you think (suck!) play it first before you complain...here i'll give you where you can download and try the 14 days trial.....hahhah
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I really think this is the case here. Many people love to spam the RYL and other Forums when the topic of $$$ comes into play. They got it for free and they want to keep getting it for free. These people, typically kids, have absolutely no concept of Server Hardware costs, Bandwidth costs, Support Team costs, or anything of a real-world nature.
And to be more precise about the specific scenario of RYL:PotE, Planetwide Games has little to nothing to do with RYL's development sadly. They're not even game developers, they're software testers and producers. Youixiland, some Korean company does all the game coding and development. PwG simply sends off to Youixiland, what they need for our North American version, and Youixiland codes it. When they're done, the patch gets sent to PWG, and they test it and apply it to the NA servers. PWG is at the mercy of Youixiland in the whole situation, just as the RYL:PotE Community is.
And "all it's worth" to the Beta Hoppers in the end is exactly what they paid: Nothing. The game is well balanced, well polished, and is still has an active development.
Ignore criticism by the Free-loading Beta-Hoppers!
Unfortunately (or fortunately) I wasn't able to play RYL due to some server bug or something else which prevented me from logging in. Anyway, judging by character creation screen, visuals are quite decent. As for gameplay and storyline, I got a feeling the whole thing was ripped off Knight Online (or vice versa, not sure). Given this resemblance (although RYL seems to be more diverse and advanced), I believe those who stand against RYL have strong grounds based on something more substantial than this game going P2P.
I myself am quite skeptical towards "fun" this game has deliver, but the reason is rather my general disappointment in Eastern MMORPGs.
As with many others in our community, i was a beta hopper. If it wasn't free, i didnt want it. I started on RYL MY, enjoyed the game for the most part, and went to leave. I was then told about the North American version of the game. Not wanting to leave a game in which i hadnt completed yet [which is possibly why i love RPG so much: Its harder to complete one] never mind gotten far, i went along with installing this version, and playing it.
Skipping some time, im now a Guide in the game, and will actually be paying for the game.
Uhm, i'd say more, but i'll do that next time. Only a few hours till work and i have to get SOME sleep because i drive. >.<
Cyall
Well, RYL won't do as well as all those A-list mmorpgs that is out there. We just have to close one eye for those minority of the people that thinks this game is worth playing.
yay, i'm one of those you need to watch out for, i've been playing ryl for quite a while and i've only been playing the north american version. i'm one of those people that can see potential in a game, this is a very nice game compared to others i've seen. i'm not sure what kind of personal thing some people have against planet wide games, but i've seen worse games with even worse support than this game.
You weren't able to play, and you're judging the game. Three words: What, the, and hell. I also have a couple more words but I doubt you'd want to see them here.
People who stand against RYL and PWG have no ground to stand on. This game is in beta, and what's the purpose of beta? To test the game, find the bugs and insecurities, and fix them. If you really need some one to bitch to about your personal problems find a mirror and get lost. The most logical thing to do when there's a bug you don't like is to help fix it, they even hold IRC based meetings with the player community to further their effort in fixing bugs.
Of course you wont help though, you're a beta hopper.
hey ,this game is a big load of crap, just deal whit it
nerves,hipertension and wannabe inteligent comments are unhealthy, so... all of you bunch of non expereicned on mmorpgs fanbois , just calm down , relax , enjoy life and play real games ok?
pd: when some formula works, why ppl try to change or improve it? Ultima online the best mmorpg ever!!!
I just hope the character creation process gets more indepth....as is reminds me of FFXI character select...not much customization. Also, I firmly believe in camera control and movement being allowed by use of Mouse AND keyboard, and this should be default, like WoW and SWG have it. So, on that note, I agree with the OP although I wouldn't be so vulgar about it.
I'm going to quote myself, from another post....
You had to dig up an old thread to find people who agree with you? That's pretty desperate.
Heh sounds like some ppl just cant take that a mmorpg can be to difficult for some kids. Can see if someone thinks the game is SO bad... If they get killed all the time.
Then why start a threat and let everyone know you stink at this game... instead of just drop it and then forget all about RYL
woah wtf is that smell? oh i know.. BULLSHIT.
I seriously doubt alot of these "experienced" mmorpgers are that experienced.. if they think WoW is awesome with it's cartoony look and hug-a-bear feel. Click and watch is so retro... They need to boost that game to live action... I don't see how you can just click, and wait for something to happen... that's so slow and stupid........ It's like playing a RPG on the super nintendo.. but with better graphics.
but seriously... Why dissing on a game that you've most likely haven't given much of a shot? and some of the "experienced" mmorpgers say this game is horrible in graphics.. if you are so experienced you'd know graphics don't make the game, the fun playing the game does.
seriously... "Experienced" seriously?
Well. I'll give a different aspect of the game. I have played it from Alpha on PWG and was a normal beta tester from MY (CiB) Version. I played Alpha for PwG and started as a player and worked my way into vGM. I dedicated most of my time to helping players. So whoever used the arguement that the support stunk is sadly mistaken.
Most of the people who are down talking NA-RYL either only played the beta or don't understand the meaning of a beta. A beta test is for players and staff to test all aspects of the game. This includes everything from bugs, events, PvP, graphics, stability, over all quality, and to testing the will of the GMs/staff. NA-RYL has come a LONG way from when it started, as any Beta/MMORPG should. It has never gotten worse then what it was before and will only get better.
The people who sit back an complain I bet don't even have a membership and or pay for the game. Also, they never got to fully enjoy the staff and or game as I did. Between Chip, Kyle, Mike, And all the vGM in the program, For the most part they were great. Just having random conversation with them could make the game that much better. The staff in the game know what/how to make their players happy (atleast the majority of them.) If you had a problem, most of the time they would solve it in a timely fashion. The Staff in the game knew how to keep the community happy and show them a good time.
As for the community, It had a lot of problems. Between players blaiming everything on the staff instead of trying to help with the problems and report bugs it got hectic. Yet at the same time, the community for the most part had a great time and stuck up for each other. There are strict enforced rules by the vGMs and though you can't catch every bad apple, they caught a mass majority of them.
Now compare NA-RYL to any other MMORPG that is P2P. Show me 1 MMORPG that is 40 buck for 7 months of game play and I'd be shocked. I pay that in 2 months of Everquest II and WoW... This a game for the masses and has alot of potential.
If you want the real story of how the game plays, listen to the players that are still paying to play, they usually know the truth cause they are actually paying to play it.
T.
Its called an Open Beta for a reason. *tosses a dictionary*. That's B-E-T-A, beta.
And oh, about the GMs. I've never experienced any troubles with the GM in that game. Though they can't be always around to help you out (since it was in the beta stage and there trying to work on the game), there are people we call "Guides" in that game that can assist you. And oh, if you supply us with a name of a GM that "bragged" about being all that, supply us a name. I don't think any GMs would do such a thing.
"Sun is bad for you. Everything our parents said was good is bad. Sun, milk, red meat... college."
-=+RIP Dimebag+=-
For someone who's trying to insult other people for making a smart-ass comments, you sure can't spell right. Here's a site for you just to save the embarrassment: http://www.m-w.com
There, now you can spell some words right.
"Sun is bad for you. Everything our parents said was good is bad. Sun, milk, red meat... college."
-=+RIP Dimebag+=-
Well then, go ahead and amuse us with your spanish. And oh, I am open-minded. I just don't tolerate people who are such an assenine to other people who's trying to make a comment and twisting it to make it sound like a smart-ass comment open for flaming.
Oh, and I'm not quite good in spanish but here's the translation of my response just to enlighten you.
Bien entonces, va adelante y nos divierte con su espa
"Sun is bad for you. Everything our parents said was good is bad. Sun, milk, red meat... college."
-=+RIP Dimebag+=-
Nah. Not using google. Trying to construct words from my dictionary and from my know-how of Spanish from trying to learn it for a week. Anywho, I ain't bashing you or anything. I'm just stating an opinion.
"Sun is bad for you. Everything our parents said was good is bad. Sun, milk, red meat... college."
-=+RIP Dimebag+=-
"Sun is bad for you. Everything our parents said was good is bad. Sun, milk, red meat... college."
-=+RIP Dimebag+=-
Malicus is mad because he doesn't know how to follow directions that we plainly stated in the forums. He's also mad because he lives in Canada and was not able to get prizes from PWG.
I tried to help him with his problems but all he did was complain. He's a complainer and there is nothing more to say about that.
yeah.. it's been 2 weeks and the game is getting better and more exciting...
Hey this game is not what you think (suck!) play it first before you complain...here i'll give you where you can download and try the 14 days trial.....hahhah
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hey this is also true about the $1M tournament?