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Cataclysm Raids

What do you guys think the Cata raids are going to look like? As well as the loot?

I'm going to guess more Ice Crown Citadel but possibly + to toughness.

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  • Frostbite05Frostbite05 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,880

    There making the same loot drop in both 10man and 25man. Before all you hardcore 25man raiders starting flaming this isn't a bad thing. The amount of loot that will drop in 25man is a lot more than that of 10 man hence you actually have a better chance at getting gear via 25man than 10 man. Also 10man difficulty will be ramped up to the level of 25 man.

  • bobbadudbobbadud Member Posts: 268

    A blue post on the forums said the "attunement system" would be back in.

    A good idea if used with moderation (don't drag it for hundreds of hours), because the attunement process through dungeons is going to be faster anyway with the LFG tool.

    Guild leveling will see an increase of Raiding Guild runs and a decrease of Pug's.

    More guilds but smaller ones.

    10 Men/25 Men: most will play the 10 Man normal and then progress through 10 Man Heroic as it usually is easier to have 2 team of 10 than 1 Raid of 25.

    I don't think the 10/25 same drop quality is a good idea. I hated the 40 man Raids and I think they should stick to the dual choice in gear you had in WotlK.

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  • RydesonRydeson Member UncommonPosts: 3,852

    Originally posted by Frostbite05

    There making the same loot drop in both 10man and 25man. Before all you hardcore 25man raiders starting flaming this isn't a bad thing. The amount of loot that will drop in 25man is a lot more than that of 10 man hence you actually have a better chance at getting gear via 25man than 10 man. Also 10man difficulty will be ramped up to the level of 25 man.

    Ramped up?   Sorry, but we all know that generally speaking.. the 25 man version of a boss fight is easier then it's 10 man version.. with a few exceptions.. This is why ALL major raiding guilds immediately start into 25 man raids vs 10 mans..  It's about time that Bliz STOP rewarding 25 man better then 10 mans.... 

  • AshkaelAshkael Member Posts: 166

    Originally posted by Rydeson

    Originally posted by Frostbite05

    There making the same loot drop in both 10man and 25man. Before all you hardcore 25man raiders starting flaming this isn't a bad thing. The amount of loot that will drop in 25man is a lot more than that of 10 man hence you actually have a better chance at getting gear via 25man than 10 man. Also 10man difficulty will be ramped up to the level of 25 man.

    Ramped up?   Sorry, but we all know that generally speaking.. the 25 man version of a boss fight is easier then it's 10 man version.. with a few exceptions.. This is why ALL major raiding guilds immediately start into 25 man raids vs 10 mans..  It's about time that Bliz STOP rewarding 25 man better then 10 mans.... 

    Nonsense. Guilds start at 25 man because the loot is better and because splitting up your core raid group is just a bad idea.

     

    10 mans only seem harder because you have less room to screw up, and fewer people to carry you.

  • striker09dxstriker09dx Member UncommonPosts: 197

    Same gear lvl and difficulty is fine but the only thing that bothers me is the lockdown change. Both 10 and 25 man versions will share the same lockdown. It will get kind of boring.

    I mean in wotlk launch you had 3 main raids sarth, maly and naxx. This kept you busy, but then with the patches these becomes obsolete and nobody wants to run them, they go upto toc (forget ulduar) and  onyxia which leaves you to 2 major raids and finally now they have only icc.

    Yes, I admit that you can queue up for last tier raids, but it's not the same fun (or useful) as new tier. Unless they change this pattern and make dungeons and raids less obsolete, it's gonna be bad playing only 1 day per week and spending the rest of the time for grinding, farming and other non fun stuff.

    Bottom line: same lockdown=less content.

  • RydesonRydeson Member UncommonPosts: 3,852

    Originally posted by Ashkael

    Originally posted by Rydeson


    Originally posted by Frostbite05

    There making the same loot drop in both 10man and 25man. Before all you hardcore 25man raiders starting flaming this isn't a bad thing. The amount of loot that will drop in 25man is a lot more than that of 10 man hence you actually have a better chance at getting gear via 25man than 10 man. Also 10man difficulty will be ramped up to the level of 25 man.

    Ramped up?   Sorry, but we all know that generally speaking.. the 25 man version of a boss fight is easier then it's 10 man version.. with a few exceptions.. This is why ALL major raiding guilds immediately start into 25 man raids vs 10 mans..  It's about time that Bliz STOP rewarding 25 man better then 10 mans.... 

    Nonsense. Guilds start at 25 man because the loot is better and because splitting up your core raid group is just a bad idea.

     

    10 mans only seem harder because you have less room to screw up, and fewer people to carry you.

    That was pretty funny..   You agreed that YES guilds go into 25 at the same time as 10 mans'.. which is what I said...  PS.. Mathmatically.. 25 man fights are easier then 10 man fights..  :)  unless you are doing pugs where no one cares about anything but Leroy.. lol..

  • VirusDancerVirusDancer Member UncommonPosts: 3,649

    In Cataclysm, 40 Hoggers raid you...

    I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?

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