ok i burn about 50-100$ in this game ..uhm per month i wouldnt suggest that to anyone that cant afford it ;-)
main aspect is that the normla professions 'hunt - mine - craft' will have an averarage return of 60-80% for one good reason u also gain skills with everthing u do(yes i know everthing decays too) with more skills it will be easier to 'break-even' which should be a main goal in this game.
if u really dont wanna loose PEDSs(ingame currency) then trade! thats the most secure way to play for free !!! e.g deposit 100peds ..buy anything cheap(u will have to know the current prices) for that ammount and add 10% to it and sell it... do this 10 times and u have all the money back u deposited .... from this profit u can go out and do anything (crafting is not suggested it really cost u MASSIVE ammounts of RL$ to get anywhere) without looking how much u spend ..ehmm repeat over and over
i know many ppl who started like this without depositing anything and they do quiet good.
to teaming: for small types of mobs teaming migth not be good but for big and biggest mobs teaming is mandatory(check out spacestion)
well anyway if u need any help or advise pm me here or on EP(entropiapioneers) ill sure stick around PE for longer...
sidenote: MA stated that they earn money by decay all other stuff goes back to players via loots/HoFs so let them uebers skill like hell its better for us and MA
OMG thats a friggin great idea, why not puy peds for say 100$, sell them of for say 80. (people buy peds outside of PE official, cause there are people selling that do not trust mindark to pay them, so there is unofficial peds floating around, and lots of it and should be no trouble selling): Then chargeback and voil
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
Heh, you can make real money only in theory! Look at that numbers!!!! If you want to have fun playing you need to spend at least 100$ a MONTH It is far more than monthly subscription to other MMORPGs. But need to admit that game is cool. ANYONE who make money playing that geame hand Up! Write to me how can you do this? I know that spending 16 hrs a day just trying to trade might be ok, but is it funny? In my opinion game is not balanced, you spend too much money for it. So dont cry when you look into your wallet some time and you'll see only a copper penny.....GL to all anyway <?xml:namespace prefix = v ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" /><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
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eh, you can make real money only in theory! Look at that numbers!!!! If you want to have fun playing you need to spend at least 100$ a MONTH It is far more than monthly subscription to other MMORPGs. But need to admit that game is cool. ANYONE who make money playing that geame hand Up! Write to me how can you do this? I know that spending 16 hrs a day just trying to trade might be ok, but is it funny? In my opinion game is not balanced, you spend too much money for it. So dont cry when you look into your wallet some time and you'll see only a copper penny.....GL to all anyway
I bid on an item, logged off for a few hours ( auction had 10 hours left) I logged in about 15 hours later. No notice of outbid, no notice that I won the auction, and my account was the same as I logged off.
I relogged a few times, and even the next day I showed no update as to the result of this issue, no credit, no item, no notice from auction.
I recieved a notice that I sold a Pixie Armor piece for 4 PED (while i was online) the system says "Your account has been credited 4 PED" I did not see an increase of 4 PED in my account. I then relogged a few times, and again even as of a few days later I did not see the credit.
Their responce was that
#1 report "Our records show that you were outbid by 20 PED and your account was credited back" now I watch my balance like a hawk...and I see no credit back.
Now my issue, where is the room for unsatisfied customer opinion? Where is the reply to this ticket option? Why is their records treated like it's a word from the Gods?
Being that this economy is tied to real life money #1 you would think they could be more responsive to their user bases complaints, #2 We should NOT have to pay for their coding blunders IT is not our fault if a coder forgets to dot their "I"s and cross their "T"s
Oh and you can't forget the bugs that just outright cost you money, I added in one of my complaints the fact that lag and loot bugs exist that in effect make us (users) lose too much money at times, and that there should be a method of compensation for these issues. Again no reply to this point from customer service.
Really good scam going here...lets code a game just good enough to please a few people, just enough to get power gamers addicted, lets add the feel for a false hope of "Make real cash" Then lets let a bunch of bugs take their money so they spend more money making our wallets fat.
OK now for some "Conditions of Use" problems
13. Changes to the System MindArk may, at any time, update, revise or change the internal data and balancing of the System, without any notice or responsibility for compensation due to loss or gain of value due to these changes.
Hmm this is unsettling ... Now say one of these changes...while implementing it zero's your account are you out of luck?
9. Accounts and Fund Transfers MindArk acknowledges the responsibility to maintain records of all transactions in accordance with corresponding Swedish Legislation. Account deficits in any situation apart from those described herein are the responsibility of the Participant. MindArk accepts no responsibility for funds misplaced or misused in any incidence, regardless of reason.
And what is this? So if they take my deposit and "accidently give it to a different account I am to lay down and play dead? I am to accept that my money (REAL MONEY) went to someone else?
And does this mean I am violating the Conditions of use by saying all this here?
15. Rules of Conduct ................ ................ b. You cannot threaten, harass, cause grief or distress to any MindArk staff in or outside the virtual universe, including, but not limited to, IRC channels or public web forums.
As one could say that making a complaint like this could cause the staff of MindArk distress.. As vague as the things are in the "Conditions of Use" statement. As many USA gamers are in this game...Are they in effect trying to Null our American right to freedom of speach?
8. Governing Law This Agreement is to be governed by, construed and enforced according to the laws of Sweden.
If I remember right Sweden is a ally to the USA? And that any company that offers a service that is accessable to US citizens, and said companies willfully and knowingly providing service to American citizens are bound by US laws also?
17. Final Agreement This Agreement terminates and supersedes all prior understandings or agreements on the subject matter hereof. By accepting this Agreement and becoming a participant you agree that MindArk may, at any time, update, revise or change this Agreement. If MindArk makes material changes or revisions to this Agreement, MindArk will provide notice to you, via the e-mail address you provided upon registration. Your continued participation in Project Entropia after notification of changes means that you accept the changes. If you do not want to accept the changes proposed by MindArk or to any of the terms in this Agreement, your only remedy is to cancel your account and cease using Project Entropia.
And what if they do change the "Conditions of Use" in a manner that is unacceptable to any user, are they out of luck if say....they deposit any amount the day prior to the alteration of it?
People that are looking to get into this game and people who did not read this upon logging in (as there are alot of people who don't) Be carefull, as this "Condition of Use" if used correctly and their lack of concern to their customers when they are hit with bugs could leave you quite broke with little reward.
Originally posted by TaskyZZ Project Entropia is the SUCK!!! Anybody who is giving money away to this game is crazy... Think of it this way. Money goes in from the players. For the company making the game, money has to come out. And lots of it. Then for any one person to profit big, many people have to lose small or a few people have to lose big. Either way, only a few are going to make any money and most people are going to lose money. And lose a lot.
OK here's how it works so that people like me who play the game to win can make good money!
Did you see the poll on the front page? no? - here it is then!
Now you will notice that peeps here on MMORPG.com are pretty good at voting about their favourite games, but what's this? ....shock .....horror..... Noone thinks that money is important to them?
In fact if you look at these results it's pretty obvious why you can make money playing Project Entropia. There are far more people playing the game for whom blowing mobs away is far more important than how much it earns them.
If you're interested and you have the patience to learn you can start earning good money from the game in a very short time.
Speaking as a devout member of the 4.1% I couldn't be happier to learn that there are so many people financing my hobby
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hi there ..another PE addict here
let me add a bit to discussion ;-)
ok i burn about 50-100$ in this game ..uhm per month
i wouldnt suggest that to anyone that cant afford it ;-)
main aspect is that the normla professions 'hunt - mine - craft'
will have an averarage return of 60-80% for one good reason
u also gain skills with everthing u do(yes i know everthing decays too)
with more skills it will be easier to 'break-even' which should be
a main goal in this game.
if u really dont wanna loose PEDSs(ingame currency) then trade!
thats the most secure way to play for free !!!
e.g deposit 100peds ..buy anything cheap(u will have to know the current prices)
for that ammount and add 10% to it and sell it...
do this 10 times and u have all the money back u deposited ....
from this profit u can go out and do anything
(crafting is not suggested it really cost u MASSIVE ammounts of RL$ to get anywhere)
without looking how much u spend
..ehmm repeat over and over
i know many ppl who started like this without depositing anything and they do quiet good.
to teaming: for small types of mobs teaming migth not be good
but for big and biggest mobs teaming is mandatory(check out spacestion)
well anyway if u need any help or advise pm me here
or on EP(entropiapioneers) ill sure stick around PE for longer...
sidenote: MA stated that they earn money by decay
all other stuff goes back to players via loots/HoFs
so let them uebers skill like hell its better for us and MA
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"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
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Heh, you can make real money only in theory! Look at that numbers!!!! If you want to have fun playing you need to spend at least 100$ a MONTH It is far more than monthly subscription to other MMORPGs. But need to admit that game is cool. ANYONE who make money playing that geame hand Up! Write to me how can you do this? I know that spending 16 hrs a day just trying to trade might be ok, but is it funny? In my opinion game is not balanced, you spend too much money for it. So dont cry when you look into your wallet some time and you'll see only a copper penny.....GL to all anyway <?xml:namespace prefix = v ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" /><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
JASIOQ (begginer laser sniper) freelencer
eh, you can make real money only in theory! Look at that numbers!!!! If you want to have fun playing you need to spend at least 100$ a MONTH It is far more than monthly subscription to other MMORPGs. But need to admit that game is cool. ANYONE who make money playing that geame hand Up! Write to me how can you do this? I know that spending 16 hrs a day just trying to trade might be ok, but is it funny? In my opinion game is not balanced, you spend too much money for it. So dont cry when you look into your wallet some time and you'll see only a copper penny.....GL to all anyway
JASIOQ (begginer laser sniper) freelencer
What is with the really cold, slightly harsh, and "that is final" treatment from the customer service?
I reported 2 seperate bugs, saying that I lost money and items on the auction.....
#1
I bid on an item, logged off for a few hours ( auction had 10 hours left) I logged in about 15 hours later.
No notice of outbid, no notice that I won the auction, and my account was the same as I logged off.
I relogged a few times, and even the next day I showed no update as to the result of this issue, no credit, no item, no notice from auction.
#2
I recieved a notice that I sold a Pixie Armor piece for 4 PED (while i was online) the system says "Your account has been credited 4 PED" I did not see an increase of 4 PED in my account. I then relogged a few times, and again even as of a few days later I did not see the credit.
Their responce was that
#1 report
"Our records show that you were outbid by 20 PED and your account was credited back" now I watch my balance like a hawk...and I see no credit back.
#2
"Our records show your account was credited"
Now my issue, where is the room for unsatisfied customer opinion? Where is the reply to this ticket option? Why is their records treated like it's a word from the Gods?
Being that this economy is tied to real life money #1 you would think they could be more responsive to their user bases complaints, #2 We should NOT have to pay for their coding blunders IT is not our fault if a coder forgets to dot their "I"s and cross their "T"s
Oh and you can't forget the bugs that just outright cost you money, I added in one of my complaints the fact that lag and loot bugs exist that in effect make us (users) lose too much money at times, and that there should be a method of compensation for these issues. Again no reply to this point from customer service.
Really good scam going here...lets code a game just good enough to please a few people, just enough to get power gamers addicted, lets add the feel for a false hope of "Make real cash" Then lets let a bunch of bugs take their money so they spend more money making our wallets fat.
OK now for some "Conditions of Use" problems
13. Changes to the System
MindArk may, at any time, update, revise or change the internal data and balancing of the System, without any notice or responsibility for compensation due to loss or gain of value due to these changes.
Hmm this is unsettling ... Now say one of these changes...while implementing it zero's your account are you out of luck?
9. Accounts and Fund Transfers
MindArk acknowledges the responsibility to maintain records of all transactions in accordance with corresponding Swedish Legislation. Account deficits in any situation apart from those described herein are the responsibility of the Participant. MindArk accepts no responsibility for funds misplaced or misused in any incidence, regardless of reason.
And what is this? So if they take my deposit and "accidently give it to a different account I am to lay down and play dead? I am to accept that my money (REAL MONEY) went to someone else?
And does this mean I am violating the Conditions of use by saying all this here?
15. Rules of Conduct
................
................
b. You cannot threaten, harass, cause grief or distress to any MindArk staff in or outside the virtual universe, including, but not limited to, IRC channels or public web forums.
As one could say that making a complaint like this could cause the staff of MindArk distress.. As vague as the things are in the "Conditions of Use" statement. As many USA gamers are in this game...Are they in effect trying to Null our American right to freedom of speach?
8. Governing Law
This Agreement is to be governed by, construed and enforced according to the laws of Sweden.
If I remember right Sweden is a ally to the USA? And that any company that offers a service that is accessable to US citizens, and said companies willfully and knowingly providing service to American citizens are bound by US laws also?
17. Final Agreement
This Agreement terminates and supersedes all prior understandings or agreements on the subject matter hereof.
By accepting this Agreement and becoming a participant you agree that MindArk may, at any time, update, revise or change this Agreement. If MindArk makes material changes or revisions to this Agreement, MindArk will provide notice to you, via the e-mail address you provided upon registration. Your continued participation in Project Entropia after notification of changes means that you accept the changes. If you do not want to accept the changes proposed by MindArk or to any of the terms in this Agreement, your only remedy is to cancel your account and cease using Project Entropia.
And what if they do change the "Conditions of Use" in a manner that is unacceptable to any user, are they out of luck if say....they deposit any amount the day prior to the alteration of it?
People that are looking to get into this game and people who did not read this upon logging in (as there are alot of people who don't) Be carefull, as this "Condition of Use" if used correctly and their lack of concern to their customers when they are hit with bugs could leave you quite broke with little reward.
The only valid point is:
If you are playing Project Entropia, expect to get ripped off...
and
Quit playing now...
well i expect to pay for games that i play...
tip to check ur credits when receiving peds from auction is
to take off 1ped from ur card ..this forces the server to resync ur credits
it sucks loosing peds like this ;-( there has been some increased troubles with servers lately
some ppl cannot take pecs of their cards...
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OK here's how it works so that people like me who play the game to win can make good money!
Did you see the poll on the front page? no? - here it is then!
Now you will notice that peeps here on MMORPG.com are pretty good at voting about their favourite games, but what's this? ....shock .....horror..... Noone thinks that money is important to them?
In fact if you look at these results it's pretty obvious why you can make money playing Project Entropia. There are far more people playing the game for whom blowing mobs away is far more important than how much it earns them.
If you're interested and you have the patience to learn you can start earning good money from the game in a very short time.
Speaking as a devout member of the 4.1% I couldn't be happier to learn that there are so many people financing my hobby
Why does no one state the obvious?
These ammo bugs and not getting credited a dollar here or there... the more they don't give you the more you have to give them.
If you attempt to withdraw any significant amount from the game expect resistance.
You know a guy payed like 22k just to "own" a piece of land in this game. This scam is brilliant in that it's player endorsed.
If they were charging a monthly fee theyd never make that much cash.