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Lord of the Rings Online: Free to Play Interview

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,951

    Originally posted by Rocketeer

    Originally posted by Torvaldr

    Originally posted by Rocketeer

    I simply dont get it. Really i dont. Let me get this straight, a couple of posters above me complain that a game, they currently cant play at all without spending money, will not be as much fun after going F2P unless you spend money. Is that about the gist of your problems? That you cant get everything as a free player who isnt supporting the company making the game one bit? That there are maybe even pieces of the game that require you to spend money if you want them?

     

    The way some people here complain they want everything subscribers get, not pay any money and have all of that be financed by some kids in a basement with a unlimited CC buying cosmetic items which do no affect gameplay at all. That about sums it up?

    If it is really FREE TO PLAY then I want everything, every piece of content I purchased before and play with that for free.  I don't mind paying for anything new in the future but I don't want to be required to repurchase what I've already bought.

    If they limit what I've purchased then it isn't Free to Play, it is CRIPPLE WARE and a LIMITED PLAY.  That is what bugs me.  That and I think their dev efforts will end up gimping the quality of the game, but that's another issue.

    Thats the whole point, you didnt buy it before, you rented it, the only ones who bought it are the lifetimers. Now you get to buy it, dont like that? Well keep renting it.

    I for example got me a NA account with their recent special, i paid 10$ for SoA, MoM and Mirkwood + 30 days. I would have been a braindead monkey if i had thought that would cover all the content from 1-65 in the game and meant i owned it. I mean seriously, 10$ for all that stuff + 30 days if the monthly fee alone is 15$?

     

    You did damn well know when you bought the game that you would only be able to play it aslong as you paid your subscription. Now they change it, you dont have less while your subscribed, but you get more once you unsubscribe. And you feel cheated?! You dont have to buy anything again aslong as you stay subscribed, and if you unsubscribe you will still have more than before, so excuse me if im thinking your unreasonable. Not about your fear that they are going to gimp the game though, im a bit worried about that too.

    Then again, the game wasnt going into such a good direction before either, giving the players more voice on the developement direction, if only by their wallets, has to count for something.

    Though you are completely on the mark, I can feel Torvaldr's pain.

    Part of it is perception. When we buy an expansion or event the original game, we feel like we are purchasing the game. Even though the fine print says we are purchasing access.

    Part of this is how we as a society have always bartered and traded. We are used to an excchange of goods and services for goods and services.

    It's the shift in our mentality that these games are services over an actual product that we own where we falter.

    I even toyed with dropping my sub once this f2p thing took off. However I then realized that quite a bit of the game might have to be repurchased by me. I can see where that would be frustrating.

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  • RocketeerRocketeer Member UncommonPosts: 1,303

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Though you are completely on the mark, I can feel Torvaldr's pain.

    Part of it is perception. When we buy an expansion or event the original game, we feel like we are purchasing the game. Even though the fine print says we are purchasing access.

    Part of this is how we as a society have always bartered and traded. We are used to an excchange of goods and services for goods and services.

    It's the shift in our mentality that these games are services over an actual product that we own where we falter.

    I even toyed with dropping my sub once this f2p thing took off. However I then realized that quite a bit of the game might have to be repurchased by me. I can see where that would be frustrating.

    Same idea but different conclusion here, i see that i have to buy stuff i completed before again, but its finally the last time. For example my Warden is level 45 and my LM is 35. I will now focus on bringing both to the beginning of moria, once f2p hits i drop to premium, and can be busy doing all the moria and mirkwood content without having to buy anything. The question when i have to pay again will only arise with my next twink, will i buy a couple questareas to level to moria or will i subscribe for a month? I dont know, but i have the choice.

    Btw, strangely we do not have to buy moria and mirkwood content, only SoA, so its not that bad as it seems considering you only need a bit of that now to complement the book quests and skirmishes.

  • EdliEdli Member Posts: 941

    Originally posted by Rocketeer

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Though you are completely on the mark, I can feel Torvaldr's pain.

    Part of it is perception. When we buy an expansion or event the original game, we feel like we are purchasing the game. Even though the fine print says we are purchasing access.

    Part of this is how we as a society have always bartered and traded. We are used to an excchange of goods and services for goods and services.

    It's the shift in our mentality that these games are services over an actual product that we own where we falter.

    I even toyed with dropping my sub once this f2p thing took off. However I then realized that quite a bit of the game might have to be repurchased by me. I can see where that would be frustrating.

    Same idea but different conclusion here, i see that i have to buy stuff i completed before again, but its finally the last time. For example my Warden is level 45 and my LM is 35. I will now focus on bringing both to the beginning of moria, once f2p hits i drop to premium, and can be busy doing all the moria and mirkwood content without having to buy anything. The question when i have to pay again will only arise with my next twink, will i buy a couple questareas to level to moria or will i subscribe for a month? I dont know, but i have the choice.

    Btw, strangely we do not have to buy moria and mirkwood content, only SoA, so its not that bad as it seems considering you only need a bit of that now to complement the book quests and skirmishes.

     

    Lol guys, you sound like those wall street dudes. Will I have to buy this or that.

  • DwarvishDwarvish Member Posts: 208

     Been looking at LOTR for a while and this is great..gonna give it a try!!

  • ekspertseksperts Member Posts: 49

    Great news for me. Time to come back :)

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  • MinscMinsc Member UncommonPosts: 1,353

    Originally posted by Torvaldr

    I do realize that we're not really "buying" anything.  I'm making the difference between content purchases (SoA, MoM, and AdPack/Mirkwood) and renting access to their servers for the last 3 years via subscription.  I make the differentiation because that seem to be how Turbine is dividing out content to be purchased and access as a VIP.

    They are honoring past purchases of content packs (SoA, MoM, Mirkwood, AdPack), but they are removing some features already purchased and allowing the player to re-purchase them.  If they had just removed those and only allowed them for VIPs then I would understand.  But they are blurring the lines between the two to maximize their revenue return.  In the amorphous and subjective world of greed and milking your customers I'm saying they're crossing that line.

    It's not necessarily a deal breaker for me, but I'll certainly call it like it is.  The problem with trying to sort these things out or make value judgements in black & white is that we live in a gray world.  I can certainly see the issue from two sides.

    Um, what exactly are they removing from VIP's that they had before in F2P. They have explicitly said that all VIP's keep what they have, plus they get the base cosmetic item bank and the 500 monthly points for free.

  • DaakkonDaakkon Member UncommonPosts: 607

    I think lotro going f2p is the worst thing they could've done with this franchise other then making monster play completely seperate and making it pretty much a strictly only pve game. I do love this game it is fun, but to me going f2p just means less resources being invested into it.

  • dragonfyredragonfyre Member Posts: 60

    Finally got my wife interested in playing this game. Glad it's going f2p.

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