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General: Kotick Wants Call of Duty to be a Subscription Based MMO
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Activision CEO Bobby Kotick spoke to the Wall Street Journal as part of an interview recently, where he revealed, among other things, that if he could do one thing right away at Activision it would be to make Call of Duty an "online subscription service".
"When you think about what the audience's interests are and how you could really satisfy bigger audiences with more inspired, creative opportunities, I would love to see us have an online Call of Duty world. I think our players would just have so much of a more compelling experience.
"I think our audiences are clamouring for it. If you look at what they're playing on Xbox Live today, we've had 1.7 billion hours of multiplayer play on Live. I think we could do a lot more to really satisfy the interests of the customers. I think we could create so many things, and make the game even more fun to play."
This isn't the first time we've heard rumors of a Call of Duty MMO, and with the Activision CEO basically saying he'd really like to see it happen, and that the business makes sense, it seems almost like a foregone conclusion that we'll eventually see one. However, Call of Duty is the most popular on the XBOX 360 and it's no secret at this point that anyone trying to get an MMO on the 360 has been fraught with problems. Cryptic Studios wanted to do it with Champions Online, Funcom with Age of Conan, and more recently, Square Enix with Final Fantasy XIV, and none of those have panned out so far.
Would you play a Call of Duty MMO? Let us know in the comments below.
via Eurogamer.
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No, it doesn't have that open world appeal to it. Call of Duty has always been the small linear map sort of game. So why pay for a FPS that is basic deathmatch and such? I know I wouldn't play this, unless somehow they really pull this off and truly give us that MMO expirience. I highly doubt they can make it more then just pure PvP, I mean can you imagine grinding for hours on something else? So no, definately not.
I have this gut feeling that, soon enough, the king will step down from his throne and hand the crown to a new game. The question is, who?
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Well , its like Counter strike.
I do play COD every so often, but no I would not pay a sub for a shooter game.
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I highly, highly doubt it. Played a soldier in real life for 8 years. I play Battlefield Bad Company 2 right now b/c Activision forced the choice of taking away dedicated servers with the last CoD (which drove me away from that franchise).
FPS have there place with me as far as gaming and I don't want to see them bleed over into MMO space. I can log onto a FPS, frag a few people and log off. Don't have to worry about advanceing a character and such. That and I don't see what they could possibly add that would require a subscription. If they need money to cover the servers CoD is currently running on, well, maybe they should have thought of that before taking away dedicated server (ran by fans) access.
Sure, I'll listen, but I don't think there is a single thing they could offer as an idea that would cause me to buy in.
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This doesn't surprise me after hearing about THQ's Company of Heroes Online. Just a move to squeeze more money out of players by adding "achievements" and progression in an avatar.
Both Activision and THQ don't seem to realise that whilst both MMO's and Single Player games with Online play may share SOME common ground, MMO's differ significantly to SP Online games. For one thing, there has to be more to a Single Player game than just being successful, if it is to be considered for a conversion into an MMO.
Now, Half Life 2 I can appreciate as being a possible contender for an MMO. But COD? Nah. Its just a collection of stories surrounding famous battles.
Just throwing out a couple of small maps, an achievements system and progression for an avatar doesn't turn an online game into what is traditionally identified as an MMO.
In some ways, it's surprising that Activision are even contemplating this, considering their affiliation with Blizzard. However in other ways it shouldn't come as much of a surprise if you just considerate it as nothing more than a desperate attempt to squeeze more money out of customers.
With that said, Valve should start paying attention to what's going on with their competition. The premise behind Half Life 2 is quite different to the MMOs that are out there, and the franchise has a large following which potentially means a large intial audience. A Half Life MMO centred around the Resistance vs Combine struggle could be a winner.
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I hate you Kotick from the deepest bowels of my heart, I bet if its possible you would charge us $1/sec for every game that comes from Activision.
I don't have the least bit of curiosity on how COD is (the last console FPS I played seriously was Halo 2); but it is obviously popular. It wouldn't surprise me at all if this were to happen.
I would be surprised if they didn't want this asap. More money+++++ goooo! I'm thinking 5v5 servers for PC when they release the "mmo" eh.
This is one of my few MMO Dream Games. I have always known that this was the future for the FPS genre when it comes to multiplayer, but I'm still not sure they could pull off what I'd want in a perfect MMOFPS with today's technology. I'd have no problem paying a monthly subscription if the game was worth the money. All of you solidy declaring that you would absolutely not pay monthly for an FPS would have no problem doing so, assuming you have paid for MMOs in the past, as long as the game was worth it. FPS clans that could claim territory and build their own bases then duke it out with other clans to increase or defend their territory would be pretty damn great.
Of course what they are talking about is probably just something like $5 a month with the added ability to fully customize your CoD character's face and uniform, and maybe a 50 vs 50 or 100 vs 100 size combat zone. I can't see them pulling off anything more than that at this time.
I agree.
Also, don't be surprised when you see players driving $25 sparkly tanks.
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I'd play it in a jiffy if done right.
And by "right" I mean Planetside style with some advances. Three or more factions fighting in a persistent battlefield world with objectives, events and both PvP and PvE integrated seamlessly. No silly character advancement except new equipment and bragging rights unlocked. Seamless integration of FPS and RTS mechanics (like officer roles for groups raids where you could give positioning "orders" to other players etc).
Throw in some instanced "old school" maps for quick and balanced fights and you'd have everybody happy.
IMO that would definitely be a "next step" in mmo design and I'm really wondering no one did it before because it seems such a natural and obvious game concept.
(clarification - notice I said "a next step" rather than "the next step" - a small but crucial distinction)
I think the Battlefield franchise would actually make for a better MMO.
Its a oddity, sure games like Battlefield, arma and planetside all make or would make good MMO's because of the squad and vehicle element and are true tactical shooters, COD just isnt at home that way its small fast and frantic maps and would not translate well to vast open expanses.
I'm a devout online FPS player since MOHAA days. Modern Warfare is my current favourite but that's largely down to the fact that MW2 turned out, for PC gamers, to be the gaming equivalent of vomit in a spacesuit.
That said I'd play a CoD MMO, but I really don't know how they'd give it any depth. Though something like Planetside is kind of a benchmark, that was a game I pretty much loathed, just a cack-handed cramming of the MMO model into an FPS experience and hopeless failing every step of the way.
But a proper FPS MMO with the gameplay of something like CoD4... Yes indeedy.
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How can they make a cod mmo. Oh yeah I know. Add a social district for peoples to meet. Then action places would be well basically like they are now. Instanced deathmatch. Add levels, wait they have it already. Just a pity excuse to get more money. To sell cool helmets and things like that. They forget the reason why cod is so popular. Is just instant action. You start the game and are ready to fight.
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I hope that Activision dies from their expensive and overpriced games. I hope they spend so many cash on this "MMO" and no one other than 13 year old codfuckers will play it. Literally this is a no, Activision is a huge failure kthxbai.
Stupid idea based on pure existing numbers? Live players pay for their accounts to go online, why would they pay again? They won't do it, evening the upcoming Final Fantasy MMO have failed to do so because M$ doesn't want them to charge twice.
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Kotick should go back to selling "products" in his local supermarket chain, he may have an opportunity to"exploit" a yogurt IP. He is a personification of what is bad about gaming industry. He is all about numbers and profit, there is no place for fun even in "his" products.
Kotick is the quintessential definition of "the suit" at Development companies ... and thus he is an icon of what is wrong with the game industry today.
Is is telling us what he plans to do to make the next COD a better than last? Is he telling us how the COD is going to grab technology by the reins and blow us away? Is he even asking what we'd like to see in the next COD???
No, he's dreaming about, and pontificating about ... how to make Activision more money. That's what 'suits' do, that's what they are paid to do, and that's all they care to do.
And the game industry (particularly the MMO side) is paying for it dearly.
Much like just about any other IP you can think of, if done correctly, it could be great... Major IF there.
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Well, maybe if they added a D-day campaign where you can fight it out on the beaches with 10k people WITHOUT LAG and graphics on highest.
but that lag thingy is what kills many MMO's out there.
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If they designed a game using the planetside concept, except with current technology weapons/vehicles etc, and allowed the huge scale battles that planetside used to have, set in a persitant online setting with multiple factions AND provide meaningful goals and rewards and advancement - then sure it would be a great mmofps and I for one would gladly fork out a sub for it
But if hes talking about just keeping the current concept in an arena style game and then charging a sub for it, it is destined for fail and would be clearly seen as just a grab for extra cash
ROFL...This moron should be concentrating on fixing thier hacker filled line of video games versus making us pay a monthly subscription for them. This is just sillyness.
Watch I bet it starts out P2P then adds a cash shop where you have to pay cash for the ability to kick hackers from your game.
This just makes me laugh. This retard must not be in touch with reality and is just chasing $$$. COD games arn't even worth paying the 50 bucks let alone paying a month sub for them.
Bobby Kotick is the entire reason I canceled my WoW account, and will never buy another Activision or Blizzard game again. I will also make it a point to download every single one I can. ILLEGALLY.
Forgive my ignorance (i dont play FPS) but isnt CoD an FPS? Why would anyone pay a monthly sub for an FPS when there are already so many that you can play online without a monthly sub?
Is this DRM via internet again and the players have to pay for it too, a straight up milking of the players or will they attempt to make an mmorpg out of an fps?
If the latter i suppose it will give all the people crying for "skill" and "twitch based play" a game to play, but i dont think it will be a game worth a sub fee (from me at least), especially with Global Agenda already going F2P.
F2P/P2P excellent thread.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/282517/F2P-An-Engineers-perspective.html