A law needs to be passed to protect people from this. Even if the information is readily available online, it should not be used against people. What you do in your leisure time shouldn't have an effect on your job unless you're doing something criminal.
What's next? Judging a person's facebook friends? Calling them or emailing them to find out about the prospective employee? Heck, why not bug a prospective employee's house while you're at it? Maybe you can find out how much they take a dump everyday or what they look like naked.
How would you feel if an employer rejected your candidacy because you're a Liberal Democrat and the employer is a Tory?
And the last tiny shred of RP WoW had left dies. The forums have always been a wonderful place to cultivate great Role Playing adventures and to make new in game friends. Since the inception of WoW I have played off and on (as most) but betwwen those community runing cross-realm lobbyland dungeons and this the immersion is no longer there. Camping Hadden when the servers come back up for the fishbone earring is far more immersive now.
This must be one of the worst moves Blizzard has ever made! Already canceled my sub, and wrote them a mail. I do hope, however, that they fix this problem, but i doubt it - Blizzard is all about the money, and they will probably change their EULA so they can sell our Real ID's to other companies.
I just want to point out when I quit, I've did this because I've wanted to - game became just boring for me and some achievments couldn't hold me in, I won't be playing just to jump in the middle of Dalaran. Now, when I look at my brother (he still plays everyday) and the guild that I was in.... they are also bored ... and tired ... and despite constant bitching on ventrillo how boring it became they still pay ... just to log in and I don't know to do what, waste time and having minimum fun. The funny part is when I told them that I've read here, on mmorpg.com that Blizz will merge with facebook they were like wtf?! They've bitched about it (because they don't like facebook) but also again didn't do a thing.
Why I bring this up? Cause it's the same analogy ... here many people don't like the id change and many many many other things .... so if it's that bad, just quit, no drama. Vote with your wallet. That's what I'm always telling, vote with your wallet, you're as important as the other guy.
There's plenty of others games that you can get addicted too!
I doubt Blizz is in any trouble over subscribers over this. Any sane person can see that this whole RealID thing really isn't a big deal. It will have blown over until cataclysm gets here.
I just hope that all parties involved here learn from this. I can understand why the player would not wantto have to post under a real name but also by posting under your real name puts a whole new level of being responsible for what you say. I am quite assured that by making this decision is mostly based on having the players take owner ship for some of the foolish threats and other things often posted in the forums. Blizzard has taken steps to protect themselves here after all this is the real world and we all look out for ourselves first. Now do I agree with what they are doing ... I have to say I am in the middle here. I am guessing that Blizzard is doing this to protect themselves and as a player we have come to expect some level of anonymity . In the end I don't think this is going to make Blizzard hurt too much in the wallet. I think the end all be all is Blizzard is willing to take a hit with some of the player base leaving rather than take a huge hit but getting sued because player A said something cruel to player B and player B decided to take his or her own life or worse yet go postal. I also feel that Blizzard has timed this perfectly. They make a change knowing full well that the player base isn't going to like it and will likely loose a chunk of them but then Blizzard is quite confident that they will make up and surpass the amount of players that leave with the sales of the next expansion. Only time will tell and regardless of either way this goes it will be a mark in the MMO history book. Lastly try to look at it like this. If you wouldn't say it face to face to the people who the post is directed to then don't say it at all.
If Blizz can't even protect their Auth server for WOW being hacked by gold farmers to gain access to accounts, and that's jsut one method of attacked against Blizz over the years and acocunt info stolen. Now real peoples ID's are up for grabs.
To SHARE a COMMON worldwide ID between games, to LET players CHAT within the game interface REGARDLESS of which game they are playing is a GENIOUS move.
Forcing you to use you real NAME is the worst shit ever thrown ever.
Then next time my virtual character kills and humilliate another virtual character a NERD guy with a SHOTGUN will visit my REAL home and kill all my real family (including my cat).
So fucking GORGEOUS, isn't it?.................
I quit WoW long ago. Now I won't buy Starcraft II or Diablo III. Why? Guess it. I dare you.
I quit WoW long ago. Now I won't buy Starcraft II or Diablo III. Why? Guess it. I dare you.
Why bother with Diablo 3 when there's Torchlight available?
Torchlight is going to be a F2P MMO, Diablo 3 is a stand-alone multiplayer game. For some people, that is a world of differences.
parrotpholk-Because we all know the miracle patch fairy shows up the night before release and sprinkles magic dust on the server to make it allllll better.
I am so outraged I will probably buy only two of the Diablo 3 games when they are released. If Blizzard backs off I will buy two of Diablo 3 games when they are released!
I could care less, but can't wait for the kicking SOE games will get when Diablo 3 rocks their world further, SOE games suck!
If you have any questions please ask. I have moved on to WoW from eq and no longer have any desire to play a dead game. Thank you. (posted by another selling his account in EQ1)
Do I feel strongly enough about the changes being brought in by the REAL ID system to honestly pack up and walk away from WoW, potentially forever?
The answer is a very simple, yes.
We, my boyfriend and I, have done exactly that. We've packed up and moved on and won't be revisiting it unless they revisit this idea and get rid of it. See what some people don't understand is the fact that this is just the beginning. Blizzard has already stated this in fact, by saying that there is more to come with this RealID system. I am not down with RealID at all.
You don't seem to understand that this is the direction everything is going. Not only Blizzard. Social networking is the next frontier. What will you guys do when everything online is a big social network? Boycott the internetz? In that case, good luck to you. Why not move back into a cave and start hunting deer in the forests too?
You don't seem to understand that this is the direction everything is going. Not only Blizzard. Social networking is the next frontier. What will you guys do when everything online is a big social network? Boycott the internetz? In that case, good luck to you. Why not move back into a cave and start hunting deer in the forests too?
didnt read all the repilies but i think the write is right...
with saying that, a huge decision has been made in the past WHILE the community shouted/begged for the change not to come and a voice was heard at the end where most of the players just left the game. it was SOE and the game was ofc SWG..
meaning.. blizzard is taking a chance just like soe took one, doesnt matter what are the odds and what WE are saying as customers. at the end we have no voice, leaving the game is a void where there are no voices..
if you enjoy a game, all you can do is (assuming you enjoy the game & sarrounding [just like this new feature]) to hope the game wont be change to something you dont like, if it is new features of new gameplay etc...
just hope for the best.. you win some you loose some, remember what has transpired and remember who did it.. other than that, continue having fun while you can
(btw i havent played wow for since the first expansion and i didnt STOP because they did something wrong, it is just not a game for me ..)
"Please note that there is NO REQUIREMENT to add the Real ID system to your account. It is a non-obligatory option and you can still continue to enjoy your games as normal should you choose not to use it. This includes our various forums. If you wish to use it, you will need to activate in your account settings.
Best Regards,
Alex D.
Account & Billing Support
Blizzard Entertainment Europe "
From Blizzard in reply to my email about RealID and how I don't want it use it on the forums.
I'm now completely unsure on the problem.. if you don't like it, don't turn it on. It's not really a big deal is it? Unless people think it will be forced on them one day?
"When people don't know much about something, they tend to fill in the blanks the way they want them to be filled in. They are almost always disappointed." - Will Wright
Heres what it boils down to, to me. In life don't ever say anything, write anything, draw a picture of or do anything else that you wouldn't be proud enough of to put your name to. If you aren't being an asshat to your fellow man then no one will have a reason to hunt you down by your real name. The fear of a stalker is about a one in 10 billion possibility I suppose. Identity theft is another slim possibility, but there is plenty of precautions out there for that. Of course there are also 100's of ways to find people on the internet without knowing their actual names anyway,,, IP tracing programs are everywhere.
My point is stop being paranoid, most likely unless you are a trolling douchebag, no one is going to give a crap what your real name is anyway.
-Dauntis
AKA: Stephen Laddusaw (a fairly unique name) come get me stalkers, ID theives, pedobears or whatever else is out there, because I am not afraid of fear tactics of the paranoid.
PS: For people that are going to quit WoW because of this, send me you gold and I will send you an aluminum foil hat.
I'm now completely unsure on the problem.. if you don't like it, don't turn it on. It's not really a big deal is it? Unless people think it will be forced on them one day?
What about the raiding guilds wich force all members/applicants to give their real id? If you don't want to use it, don't play with us.
Heres what it boils down to, to me. In life don't ever say anything, write anything, draw a picture of or do anything else that you wouldn't be proud enough of to put your name to. If you aren't being an asshat to your fellow man then no one will have a reason to hunt you down by your real name. The fear of a stalker is about a one in 10 billion possibility I suppose. Identity theft is another slim possibility, but there is plenty of precautions out there for that. Of course there are also 100's of ways to find people on the internet without knowing their actual names anyway,,, IP tracing programs are everywhere.
My point is stop being paranoid, most likely unless you are a trolling douchebag, no one is going to give a crap what your real name is anyway.
-Dauntis
AKA: Stephen Laddusaw (a fairly unique name) come get me stalkers, ID theives, pedobears or whatever else is out there, because I am not afraid of fear tactics of the paranoid.
PS: For people that are going to quit WoW because of this, send me you gold and I will send you an aluminum foil hat.
Ok I cant agree with the living in a cave but hunting deer isnt all that bad and they taste soooo good. Also there are other things to do in the world aside from the internet. Seeing I have been working for an internet help-desk for the past 8 years nothing disenhearts me more than when someone calls acting as if it is the end of the world. There are other things out in the real world to do like reading a book or something. But then also I can understand the level of frustration on this issue and only time will tell how it all pans out.
I'm now completely unsure on the problem.. if you don't like it, don't turn it on. It's not really a big deal is it? Unless people think it will be forced on them one day?
What about the raiding guilds wich force all members/applicants to give their real id? If you don't want to use it, don't play with us.
So, don't play with them if your scared of RealID? There are tons of raiding guilds out there. Honestly, that was one of the worst arguments i've read so far.
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That does not make it right.
A law needs to be passed to protect people from this. Even if the information is readily available online, it should not be used against people. What you do in your leisure time shouldn't have an effect on your job unless you're doing something criminal.
What's next? Judging a person's facebook friends? Calling them or emailing them to find out about the prospective employee? Heck, why not bug a prospective employee's house while you're at it? Maybe you can find out how much they take a dump everyday or what they look like naked.
How would you feel if an employer rejected your candidacy because you're a Liberal Democrat and the employer is a Tory?
Employers who do this are scumbags.
Playing MUDs and MMOs since 1994.
And the last tiny shred of RP WoW had left dies. The forums have always been a wonderful place to cultivate great Role Playing adventures and to make new in game friends. Since the inception of WoW I have played off and on (as most) but betwwen those community runing cross-realm lobbyland dungeons and this the immersion is no longer there. Camping Hadden when the servers come back up for the fishbone earring is far more immersive now.
This must be one of the worst moves Blizzard has ever made! Already canceled my sub, and wrote them a mail. I do hope, however, that they fix this problem, but i doubt it - Blizzard is all about the money, and they will probably change their EULA so they can sell our Real ID's to other companies.
I don't care about it, because I don't play WoW!
I just want to point out when I quit, I've did this because I've wanted to - game became just boring for me and some achievments couldn't hold me in, I won't be playing just to jump in the middle of Dalaran. Now, when I look at my brother (he still plays everyday) and the guild that I was in.... they are also bored ... and tired ... and despite constant bitching on ventrillo how boring it became they still pay ... just to log in and I don't know to do what, waste time and having minimum fun. The funny part is when I told them that I've read here, on mmorpg.com that Blizz will merge with facebook they were like wtf?! They've bitched about it (because they don't like facebook) but also again didn't do a thing.
Why I bring this up? Cause it's the same analogy ... here many people don't like the id change and many many many other things .... so if it's that bad, just quit, no drama. Vote with your wallet. That's what I'm always telling, vote with your wallet, you're as important as the other guy.
There's plenty of others games that you can get addicted too!
After all the talk about new mmos being WoW killers, turns out that Blizzard is the real WoW killer after all... who would have thought...
Better to be crazy, provided you know what sane is...
If Blizzard gets a hold of the Facebook market then you have no idea how many people that could potentially start playing WoW.
Eleanor Rigby.
I think you're missing a verb in that sentence because I don't get it...
Better to be crazy, provided you know what sane is...
I doubt Blizz is in any trouble over subscribers over this. Any sane person can see that this whole RealID thing really isn't a big deal. It will have blown over until cataclysm gets here.
I just hope that all parties involved here learn from this. I can understand why the player would not wantto have to post under a real name but also by posting under your real name puts a whole new level of being responsible for what you say. I am quite assured that by making this decision is mostly based on having the players take owner ship for some of the foolish threats and other things often posted in the forums. Blizzard has taken steps to protect themselves here after all this is the real world and we all look out for ourselves first. Now do I agree with what they are doing ... I have to say I am in the middle here. I am guessing that Blizzard is doing this to protect themselves and as a player we have come to expect some level of anonymity . In the end I don't think this is going to make Blizzard hurt too much in the wallet. I think the end all be all is Blizzard is willing to take a hit with some of the player base leaving rather than take a huge hit but getting sued because player A said something cruel to player B and player B decided to take his or her own life or worse yet go postal. I also feel that Blizzard has timed this perfectly. They make a change knowing full well that the player base isn't going to like it and will likely loose a chunk of them but then Blizzard is quite confident that they will make up and surpass the amount of players that leave with the sales of the next expansion. Only time will tell and regardless of either way this goes it will be a mark in the MMO history book. Lastly try to look at it like this. If you wouldn't say it face to face to the people who the post is directed to then don't say it at all.
To SHARE a COMMON worldwide ID between games, to LET players CHAT within the game interface REGARDLESS of which game they are playing is a GENIOUS move.
Forcing you to use you real NAME is the worst shit ever thrown ever.
Then next time my virtual character kills and humilliate another virtual character a NERD guy with a SHOTGUN will visit my REAL home and kill all my real family (including my cat).
So fucking GORGEOUS, isn't it?.................
I quit WoW long ago. Now I won't buy Starcraft II or Diablo III. Why? Guess it. I dare you.
Why bother with Diablo 3 when there's Torchlight available?
Better to be crazy, provided you know what sane is...
Torchlight is going to be a F2P MMO, Diablo 3 is a stand-alone multiplayer game. For some people, that is a world of differences.
parrotpholk-Because we all know the miracle patch fairy shows up the night before release and sprinkles magic dust on the server to make it allllll better.
I am so outraged I will probably buy only two of the Diablo 3 games when they are released. If Blizzard backs off I will buy two of Diablo 3 games when they are released!
I could care less, but can't wait for the kicking SOE games will get when Diablo 3 rocks their world further, SOE games suck!
If you have any questions please ask. I have moved on to WoW from eq and no longer have any desire to play a dead game. Thank you. (posted by another selling his account in EQ1)
Do I feel strongly enough about the changes being brought in by the REAL ID system to honestly pack up and walk away from WoW, potentially forever?
The answer is a very simple, yes.
We, my boyfriend and I, have done exactly that. We've packed up and moved on and won't be revisiting it unless they revisit this idea and get rid of it. See what some people don't understand is the fact that this is just the beginning. Blizzard has already stated this in fact, by saying that there is more to come with this RealID system. I am not down with RealID at all.
You don't seem to understand that this is the direction everything is going. Not only Blizzard. Social networking is the next frontier. What will you guys do when everything online is a big social network? Boycott the internetz? In that case, good luck to you. Why not move back into a cave and start hunting deer in the forests too?
lol, I agree with you 100%
You REALLY want people to quit? Perform a feat similar to Star Wars Galaxies "NGE"
That'll make people speak with their wallets. LOL
didnt read all the repilies but i think the write is right...
with saying that, a huge decision has been made in the past WHILE the community shouted/begged for the change not to come and a voice was heard at the end where most of the players just left the game. it was SOE and the game was ofc SWG..
meaning.. blizzard is taking a chance just like soe took one, doesnt matter what are the odds and what WE are saying as customers. at the end we have no voice, leaving the game is a void where there are no voices..
if you enjoy a game, all you can do is (assuming you enjoy the game & sarrounding [just like this new feature]) to hope the game wont be change to something you dont like, if it is new features of new gameplay etc...
just hope for the best.. you win some you loose some, remember what has transpired and remember who did it.. other than that, continue having fun while you can
(btw i havent played wow for since the first expansion and i didnt STOP because they did something wrong, it is just not a game for me ..)
"Please note that there is NO REQUIREMENT to add the Real ID system to your account. It is a non-obligatory option and you can still continue to enjoy your games as normal should you choose not to use it. This includes our various forums. If you wish to use it, you will need to activate in your account settings.
Best Regards,
Alex D.
Account & Billing Support
Blizzard Entertainment Europe "
From Blizzard in reply to my email about RealID and how I don't want it use it on the forums.
I'm now completely unsure on the problem.. if you don't like it, don't turn it on. It's not really a big deal is it? Unless people think it will be forced on them one day?
"When people don't know much about something, they tend to fill in the blanks the way they want them to be filled in. They are almost always disappointed." - Will Wright
Heres what it boils down to, to me. In life don't ever say anything, write anything, draw a picture of or do anything else that you wouldn't be proud enough of to put your name to. If you aren't being an asshat to your fellow man then no one will have a reason to hunt you down by your real name. The fear of a stalker is about a one in 10 billion possibility I suppose. Identity theft is another slim possibility, but there is plenty of precautions out there for that. Of course there are also 100's of ways to find people on the internet without knowing their actual names anyway,,, IP tracing programs are everywhere.
My point is stop being paranoid, most likely unless you are a trolling douchebag, no one is going to give a crap what your real name is anyway.
-Dauntis
AKA: Stephen Laddusaw (a fairly unique name) come get me stalkers, ID theives, pedobears or whatever else is out there, because I am not afraid of fear tactics of the paranoid.
PS: For people that are going to quit WoW because of this, send me you gold and I will send you an aluminum foil hat.
Help support an artist and gamer who has lost his tools to create and play: http://www.gofundme.com/u63nzcgk
What about the raiding guilds wich force all members/applicants to give their real id? If you don't want to use it, don't play with us.
My sentiment exactly. Fear is the mindkiller.
Ok I cant agree with the living in a cave but hunting deer isnt all that bad and they taste soooo good. Also there are other things to do in the world aside from the internet. Seeing I have been working for an internet help-desk for the past 8 years nothing disenhearts me more than when someone calls acting as if it is the end of the world. There are other things out in the real world to do like reading a book or something. But then also I can understand the level of frustration on this issue and only time will tell how it all pans out.
So, don't play with them if your scared of RealID? There are tons of raiding guilds out there. Honestly, that was one of the worst arguments i've read so far.