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PvP Rumor Mill

Luthor_XLuthor_X Member Posts: 431

I am reading rumors about PvP in FFXIV. What I can gather is that it will be similar to the way PvP is handled in FFXI. Since the game is still under the NDA, everything is speculation at this point. I would post some links to this topic, but I am not sure if it will go against the rules here on mmorpg.com... and I don't want to be banned again, lol.

 

Has anyone else heard these rumors?

 

Also, if you do a google search of "Final Fantasy 14 PvP" you will be lead to the afore mentioned links of this topic.

 

I have not played FFXI, so I am not familiar with how that flavour of FF handles PvP. Is it similar to the dreaded Monster-Play, or more like BG's ala the 800 lbs- Gorilla-that- must- not- be- named?

 

Thanks!

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  • HyanmenHyanmen Member UncommonPosts: 5,357

     

     

     

    "I have not played FFXI, so I am not familiar with how that flavour of FF handles PvP. Is it similar to the dreaded Monster-Play, or more like BG's ala the 800 lbs- Gorilla-that- must- not- be- named?"

     

    Both. Depends on what they think up.

    Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
  • This game is probably just going to have the same kind of pvp 11 had

  • WSIMikeWSIMike Member Posts: 5,564

    Originally posted by Luthor_X

    I am reading rumors about PvP in FFXIV. What I can gather is that it will be similar to the way PvP is handled in FFXI. Since the game is still under the NDA, everything is speculation at this point. I would post some links to this topic, but I am not sure if it will go against the rules here on mmorpg.com... and I don't want to be banned again, lol.

     

    Has anyone else heard these rumors?

     

    Also, if you do a google search of "Final Fantasy 14 PvP" you will be lead to the afore mentioned links of this topic.

     

    I have not played FFXI, so I am not familiar with how that flavour of FF handles PvP. Is it similar to the dreaded Monster-Play, or more like BG's ala the 800 lbs- Gorilla-that- must- not- be- named?

     

    Thanks!

    Can't remember where it is, but it has been said in an interview with SE that if PvP is added to the game, it would be in the same vein as Brenner and Ballista in FFXI. Reason being, they want the core gameplay of FFXIV to be about players cooperating against common foes, not fighting each other.... again.. like FFXI.

    "If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road,
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  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148Member CommonPosts: 6,690
    This mmo doesn't need pvp to be good. I'm not sure why they would even bother. I would rather have more pve content and making sure the game runs properly than wasting time on pvp.
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  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993

    I've never played FFXI so I'm not sure how PvP was handled in that game but in my opinion, the only type of PvP that would really work in this game is a friendly duel type deal.

    FF games have always been about a party of people cooperating with each other against a common enemy, not trying to kill each other in battlegrounds and such.

    Mind you, I love PvP but I feel like it has no place in this game.

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  • RajenRajen Member Posts: 689

    Just thought you guys would like to see this...

     

    (translated)

     

    Tanaka: Yes, it will start to PvE content (Player versus Environment - Editor's note) only give, but the development team is already working on PvP content. Probably we will have to furnish in due time such extensions via update. In the beginning is something to be early still. We want to concentrate first of all the players on the PvE content. (Player Kills - Anmerkung der Redaktion ) und Belästigungen verhindern. We also seek opportunities (Player Kills - Editor's note), and prevent harassment PK. We certainly try to incorporate PvP content that do not offer these negative aspects.

     

    http://www.4players.de/4players.php/dispbericht/Allgemein/Interview/17343/68833/0/Final_Fantasy_XIV_Online.html

  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686

    Originally posted by Rajen

    Just thought you guys would like to see this...

     

    (translated)

     

    Tanaka: Yes, it will start to PvE content (Player versus Environment - Editor's note) only give, but the development team is already working on PvP content. Probably we will have to furnish in due time such extensions via update. In the beginning is something to be early still. We want to concentrate first of all the players on the PvE content. (Player Kills - Anmerkung der Redaktion ) und Belästigungen verhindern. We also seek opportunities (Player Kills - Editor's note), and prevent harassment PK. We certainly try to incorporate PvP content that do not offer these negative aspects.

     

    http://www.4players.de/4players.php/dispbericht/Allgemein/Interview/17343/68833/0/Final_Fantasy_XIV_Online.html

    Seems like they will have some PvP after all.... and it will not be FFA, so i guess there will be some kind of PvP zones that are totally cut of from PvE and they will be released in an update, which is awesome as this makes people realise it is a PvE game most and for all.

    Makes me wonder if it will work out with the FF XIV combat system as that seems clearly designed with PvE in mind.

     

    Can anyone link me up with a desription of FF XI PvP...  I have no clue what its named, and no clue how it worked.

    Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  • WSIMikeWSIMike Member Posts: 5,564

    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    Originally posted by Rajen

    Just thought you guys would like to see this...

     

    (translated)

     

    Tanaka: Yes, it will start to PvE content (Player versus Environment - Editor's note) only give, but the development team is already working on PvP content. Probably we will have to furnish in due time such extensions via update. In the beginning is something to be early still. We want to concentrate first of all the players on the PvE content. (Player Kills - Anmerkung der Redaktion ) und Belästigungen verhindern. We also seek opportunities (Player Kills - Editor's note), and prevent harassment PK. We certainly try to incorporate PvP content that do not offer these negative aspects.

     

    http://www.4players.de/4players.php/dispbericht/Allgemein/Interview/17343/68833/0/Final_Fantasy_XIV_Online.html

    Seems like they will have some PvP after all.... and it will not be FFA, so i guess there will be some kind of PvP zones that are totally cut of from PvE and they will be released in an update, which is awesome as this makes people realise it is a PvE game most and for all.

    Makes me wonder if it will work out with the FF XIV combat system as that seems clearly designed with PvE in mind.

     

    Can anyone link me up with a desription of FF XI PvP...  I have no clue what its named, and no clue how it worked.

    One is called Ballista

    The other is called Brenner

    They're collectively part of FFXI's "Conflict" system, which is basically as far as FFXI takes PvP. Very "event-specific" activities. Again, based on other interviews with SE, this is basically where SE's taking PvP in FFXIV. So, open PvP is extremely highly unlikely. People wanting open world FFA type PvP shouldn't get their hopes up.

    I could see there perhaps being duels between players at some point.

    PvP, however, is not an important element to SE in FFXIV.

    "If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road,
    and the cash shop selling asphalt..."
    - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops

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  • IllyssiaIllyssia Member UncommonPosts: 1,507
    I seem to remember this quote from the game producer

    "We have the same stance on PVP as we had in FFXI, we’re having a focus on PVE, but we may introduce some sort of sports-type that might be tied to PVP in the future. What we’re worrying about is that we dont want to have any PK’ing or harassment types of activities in the game. So in order to provide a safe environment to everyone and a game to enjoy. So we’re not focusing on PVP."
  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686

    Originally posted by WSIMike

    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus


    Originally posted by Rajen

    Just thought you guys would like to see this...

     

    (translated)

     

    Tanaka: Yes, it will start to PvE content (Player versus Environment - Editor's note) only give, but the development team is already working on PvP content. Probably we will have to furnish in due time such extensions via update. In the beginning is something to be early still. We want to concentrate first of all the players on the PvE content. (Player Kills - Anmerkung der Redaktion ) und Belästigungen verhindern. We also seek opportunities (Player Kills - Editor's note), and prevent harassment PK. We certainly try to incorporate PvP content that do not offer these negative aspects.

     

    http://www.4players.de/4players.php/dispbericht/Allgemein/Interview/17343/68833/0/Final_Fantasy_XIV_Online.html

    Seems like they will have some PvP after all.... and it will not be FFA, so i guess there will be some kind of PvP zones that are totally cut of from PvE and they will be released in an update, which is awesome as this makes people realise it is a PvE game most and for all.

    Makes me wonder if it will work out with the FF XIV combat system as that seems clearly designed with PvE in mind.

     

    Can anyone link me up with a desription of FF XI PvP...  I have no clue what its named, and no clue how it worked.

    One is called Ballista

    The other is called Brenner

    They're collectively part of FFXI's "Conflict" system, which is basically as far as FFXI takes PvP. Very "event-specific" activities. Again, based on other interviews with SE, this is basically where SE's taking PvP in FFXIV. So, open PvP is extremely highly unlikely. People wanting open world FFA type PvP shouldn't get their hopes up.

    I could see there perhaps being duels between players at some point.

    PvP, however, is not an important element to SE in FFXIV.

    Several of these "matches" would be fun as endgame PvP content, just to give people a break from PvE from time to time. It might not hurt to have several of these matches with varying MAP sizes...

    Its the only way to incorporate some PvP intoo this mainly PvE game. 

    Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  • HyanmenHyanmen Member UncommonPosts: 5,357

    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    Several of these "matches" would be fun as endgame PvP content, just to give people a break from PvE from time to time. It might not hurt to have several of these matches with varying MAP sizes...

    Its the only way to incorporate some PvP intoo this mainly PvE game. 

    Funny thing is, these events were fairly balanced for a team based PvP. 

    Although the uncapped matches were extremely unbalanced, if you did capped matches (lvl60, 50, 40, 30) the balance was almost perfect.

    I think the game would have benefited by being capped at 60 instead of 75 to be honest. The game was at it's peak balance wise at that point.

    Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
  • PallytimePallytime Member Posts: 109

    Pvp might be interesting. Even if you can identify the class by their armor you wont be able to tell what tactics they would use. Just from all the different mix and match combinations of skills. 

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