Honestly you think Blizzard did well to drop an idea that was going to do them some real damage financially ???? Would'nt it have been well done not to come up with this stupid idea in the first place . WOW I'm sorry I just cant believe anyone would credit Blizzard for doing what they should never have done in the first place . Pehaps you will next credit AOL for not giving up the real names of all thier customers next and posting them online .
Shakes head because he finds such a post unbelievable .
When we look at other games that have either implemented a change with minimal notice and refused to revert it, or annouced a change and went through with it despite disapproval, I think Blizzard does deserve some credit. Everyone's entitled to a mistake, or bad idea, so long as they take action to correct it. In this case, the part s of the change that many saw as harmful were removed (for now) so i see that as a positive and something worth acknowleging as such.
Correction . No other company have ever done what Blizzard intended on doing (at least to my knowlage of western mmos ) . Thats the difference . This made the national news in the UK . Its provoked a huge backlash against Blizzard and Warcraft on the internet . The biggest storm of controversy ever in regard to an online game . Before you give them any credit first realise the plain and simple fact which is obvious to anyone with a modicum of common sence that Blizzard had absolutly no choice other than to reverse the decision or face huge and sweeping financial loses and possible legal consequences in Europe at least for breaking laws related to data privacy .
This was the first major mistep on their part . They have corrected it but I think the damage is done now . There is a touch of meglomania to Blizzard these days . They believed they could do anything and people would lap it up out of blind stupid fandom .It must have come as quite a wake up call to find they can't .
Im glad that they keep the choice whether to display your real name or not ingame and on forum. A MMO is the last place where I would like to give out personal information just like that.
Im not saying that its because I want to be a troll, but because of account security. For this reason alone, you want to limit the amount of personal information available to the community of that game.
I'm glad they backed down. All I need is some psycho using the Freedom of Information Act to track me down after beating them in a Starcraft II match and make a suit out of my skin. They'd have to be pretty crazy to do that, because I'm a pale dude and you'd get the same effect just buying a nice white cotton shirt. But, some people wear flesh suits cultivated from fattening people up in pits in their basements, and some people buy cotton shirts. I personally recommend cotton, it breathes better than skin (provided that skin is not your own and still attached).
I followed the link to the actual Blizzard forum post. I read the whole post.
Then I read the responses.
They don't get it.
Some here get it, like The Grump, Arletta, and Aki_Ross. Nowhere was it stated at any point that...1. It would never be implemented, or 2. That what was being used now would be fixed to ensure protection.
The addon hack has not been fixed that exposes your real name. Someone you don't know can still obtain your real name via RealID in game if they are on the same friend tree you are on. They are still going forward with their Facebook deal, which will cause potential problems if your Facebook account gets linked with your WoW toon name and account. And sometime in the future they may still try to repackage this in a new way to slip it by people.
If anything, Blizzard execs have become experts at manipulating their gaming population. The mental picture that comes to mind for me is someone holding a carrot on a stick in front of a mule to keep it going...kinda fits, doncha think? Never mind the whip being applied to your rear, never mind the cliff to the side you may be about to plunge over, just keep that mule focused on that stupid carrot that they will never get.
The door is left wide open for whatever mysterious future developments they are going to implement, with no information available on what direction they will go in.
I had thought I might try WoW when Cataclysm is released, but there is no way. I do not trust them at all. I know of too many people who have been hacked through Battle.net, too many who were banned for getting hacked (nothing like punishing the victim), and I am well able to discern double speak when I hear it OR read it, so I do not trust this supposed peace offering at all.
Like others here, I am shaking my head over the amazing eagerness of so many to willingly turn a blind eye to the obvious. Kudo's to Blizzard? Not from me or my family or a lot of other friends who know better.
I love that they listed to us and are not going to use real names, however I am concerned over the Rating system.
I made a post about a bug (that had apparently been posted several times) on a different game forum and got a reply by a moderator that was very rude. I posted that he should work on his customer service to a potential paying customer and he rated me a -10 for criticizing him and totally messed up my forum access. Could not read or reply to any posts.
I am afraid of how much power they will be giving and to what type of people.
I could care less about real ID, just stop those damn phishing emails I get everyday. I bought WoW for my son a couple of years ago and they havent stopped since.
I'm not going to re-subscribe. Blizzard has shown me they have the same mentality as the Facebook developers/owners.
I remember people shouting (in forums) at the Everquest developers way back in the day. People demanded, or criticized, in-game changes that were, or were not, taking place. I can understand that mentality, both from the developers and the gamers standpoint, because it was all about fictional, non-private, in-game situations. Blizzard played a game with real life data. They lost (but only for now, i think), which is good. They attempted it, which is extremely wrong (imo), and so I will not give in and say "Ohhh, that's ok Blizz. Here, take my money again so you can spend it finding new ways to link my info to every social network in the world and do so using my real name."
"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."
When we look at other games that have either implemented a change with minimal notice and refused to revert it, or annouced a change and went through with it despite disapproval, I think Blizzard does deserve some credit. Everyone's entitled to a mistake, or bad idea, so long as they take action to correct it. In this case, the part s of the change that many saw as harmful were removed (for now) so i see that as a positive and something worth acknowleging as such.
Correction . No other company have ever done what Blizzard intended on doing (at least to my knowlage of western mmos ) . Thats the difference . This made the national news in the UK . Its provoked a huge backlash against Blizzard and Warcraft on the internet . The biggest storm of controversy ever in regard to an online game . Before you give them any credit first realise the plain and simple fact which is obvious to anyone with a modicum of common sence that Blizzard had absolutly no choice other than to reverse the decision or face huge and sweeping financial loses and possible legal consequences in Europe at least for breaking laws related to data privacy .
This was the first major mistep on their part . They have corrected it but I think the damage is done now . There is a touch of meglomania to Blizzard these days . They believed they could do anything and people would lap it up out of blind stupid fandom .It must have come as quite a wake up call to find they can't .
If common sense were a factor, we would have seen the NGE, implemented for SWG, reversed in a similar fashion. So, while the scale is not quite as grand, there has been another company that has implemented significant, and unpopular changes. The main difference is that the other company chose to remain stubborn versus taking corrective action.
As far as the second paragraph, I can agree with that.
-mklinic
"Do something right, no one remembers. Do something wrong, no one forgets" -from No One Remembers by In Strict Confidence
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Correction . No other company have ever done what Blizzard intended on doing (at least to my knowlage of western mmos ) . Thats the difference . This made the national news in the UK . Its provoked a huge backlash against Blizzard and Warcraft on the internet . The biggest storm of controversy ever in regard to an online game . Before you give them any credit first realise the plain and simple fact which is obvious to anyone with a modicum of common sence that Blizzard had absolutly no choice other than to reverse the decision or face huge and sweeping financial loses and possible legal consequences in Europe at least for breaking laws related to data privacy .
This was the first major mistep on their part . They have corrected it but I think the damage is done now . There is a touch of meglomania to Blizzard these days . They believed they could do anything and people would lap it up out of blind stupid fandom .It must have come as quite a wake up call to find they can't .
Im glad that they keep the choice whether to display your real name or not ingame and on forum. A MMO is the last place where I would like to give out personal information just like that.
Im not saying that its because I want to be a troll, but because of account security. For this reason alone, you want to limit the amount of personal information available to the community of that game.
I'm glad they backed down. All I need is some psycho using the Freedom of Information Act to track me down after beating them in a Starcraft II match and make a suit out of my skin. They'd have to be pretty crazy to do that, because I'm a pale dude and you'd get the same effect just buying a nice white cotton shirt. But, some people wear flesh suits cultivated from fattening people up in pits in their basements, and some people buy cotton shirts. I personally recommend cotton, it breathes better than skin (provided that skin is not your own and still attached).
World of Warcraft players won!
I followed the link to the actual Blizzard forum post. I read the whole post.
Then I read the responses.
They don't get it.
Some here get it, like The Grump, Arletta, and Aki_Ross. Nowhere was it stated at any point that...1. It would never be implemented, or 2. That what was being used now would be fixed to ensure protection.
The addon hack has not been fixed that exposes your real name. Someone you don't know can still obtain your real name via RealID in game if they are on the same friend tree you are on. They are still going forward with their Facebook deal, which will cause potential problems if your Facebook account gets linked with your WoW toon name and account. And sometime in the future they may still try to repackage this in a new way to slip it by people.
If anything, Blizzard execs have become experts at manipulating their gaming population. The mental picture that comes to mind for me is someone holding a carrot on a stick in front of a mule to keep it going...kinda fits, doncha think? Never mind the whip being applied to your rear, never mind the cliff to the side you may be about to plunge over, just keep that mule focused on that stupid carrot that they will never get.
The door is left wide open for whatever mysterious future developments they are going to implement, with no information available on what direction they will go in.
I had thought I might try WoW when Cataclysm is released, but there is no way. I do not trust them at all. I know of too many people who have been hacked through Battle.net, too many who were banned for getting hacked (nothing like punishing the victim), and I am well able to discern double speak when I hear it OR read it, so I do not trust this supposed peace offering at all.
Like others here, I am shaking my head over the amazing eagerness of so many to willingly turn a blind eye to the obvious. Kudo's to Blizzard? Not from me or my family or a lot of other friends who know better.
I love that they listed to us and are not going to use real names, however I am concerned over the Rating system.
I made a post about a bug (that had apparently been posted several times) on a different game forum and got a reply by a moderator that was very rude. I posted that he should work on his customer service to a potential paying customer and he rated me a -10 for criticizing him and totally messed up my forum access. Could not read or reply to any posts.
I am afraid of how much power they will be giving and to what type of people.
This clip is even funnier. http://thenoobcomic.com/index.php?pos=384
I think maybe Blizzard did this on purpose to annouce Real ID.
and Now they pulled that off so they can gain back the attention that people think they listen to audience !!!
If that is the case, way to go Blizzard !!
Good one indeed ...... Good one ......
I could care less about real ID, just stop those damn phishing emails I get everyday. I bought WoW for my son a couple of years ago and they havent stopped since.
Hey guys, I thought this might cheer you all up a little.
http://www.thenoobcomic.com/index.php?pos=384
And do you know that if you put a saucepan on your head, you can stop government satelites from reading your brain waves?
Top 10 Most Misused Words in MMO's
"But they're richer than bulgaria!"
"they are willing to swap him for 'purpelz' whatever that means"
ROFL, now that's funny
Top 10 Most Misused Words in MMO's
I'm not going to re-subscribe. Blizzard has shown me they have the same mentality as the Facebook developers/owners.
I remember people shouting (in forums) at the Everquest developers way back in the day. People demanded, or criticized, in-game changes that were, or were not, taking place. I can understand that mentality, both from the developers and the gamers standpoint, because it was all about fictional, non-private, in-game situations. Blizzard played a game with real life data. They lost (but only for now, i think), which is good. They attempted it, which is extremely wrong (imo), and so I will not give in and say "Ohhh, that's ok Blizz. Here, take my money again so you can spend it finding new ways to link my info to every social network in the world and do so using my real name."
"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."
If common sense were a factor, we would have seen the NGE, implemented for SWG, reversed in a similar fashion. So, while the scale is not quite as grand, there has been another company that has implemented significant, and unpopular changes. The main difference is that the other company chose to remain stubborn versus taking corrective action.
As far as the second paragraph, I can agree with that.
-mklinic
"Do something right, no one remembers.
Do something wrong, no one forgets"
-from No One Remembers by In Strict Confidence
i think that this is very likely
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