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What does the term "Blue" mean in EO?

AgentAnarkiiAgentAnarkii Member UncommonPosts: 173

what does it mean?

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  • PyrostasisPyrostasis Member UncommonPosts: 2,293

    in eve you have standings with other corps.

    Blue = friendly

    Red = enemy

  • NightCloakNightCloak Member UncommonPosts: 452

    I'm fairly certain that it derives from an older term taken from UO that references a "safe" or "law-abiding" character.

     

    It means that you cannot attack them without being flagged "grey" yourself and CONCORD will come after you in high-sec space if you agress against the "blue" character.

    However, I could be quite wrong as its been a LONG time since I played EVE.

     

    What post 2 says makes more sense.

  • KossuthKossuth Member UncommonPosts: 56

    Most importantly its linked to a rule of engagement called NBSI or Not Blue Shoot Instantly run by people across almost all of 0.0 sec space.

    Aka if you're not our friend you're dying for entering our space......

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  • KossuthKossuth Member UncommonPosts: 56

    Originally posted by NightCloak

    I'm fairly certain that it derives from an older term taken from UO that references a "safe" or "law-abiding" character.

     

    It means that you cannot attack them without being flagged "grey" yourself and CONCORD will come after you in high-sec space if you agress against the "blue" character.

    However, I could be quite wrong as its been a LONG time since I played EVE.

     

    What post 2 says makes more sense.

     Yes definitely wrong in terms of Eve I'm afraid. ;)

    You can also set fleet finder by standings so only blues can join or even see a fleet.

     

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  • PyrostasisPyrostasis Member UncommonPosts: 2,293

    Originally posted by Kossuth

    Most importantly its linked to a rule of engagement called NBSI or Not Blue Shoot Instantly run by people across almost all of 0.0 sec space.

    Aka if you're not our friend you're dying for entering our space......

    Yeah there are usually two types of 0.0 space.

    NBSI = Not Blue Shoot It (I.E. If its not an ally it dies)

    and

    NRDS = Not Red Dont Shoot (I.E. if its not an enemy leave it alone)

  • batolemaeusbatolemaeus Member CommonPosts: 2,061

    The term comes from the standard coloring associated with the standings system.

    The "old" standings system was/is a scale from -10 to +10.


    -10 to -5: Deep Red
    -4.99 to -0.01: Orange
    0: Neutral (grey)
    0.01 to 5: Light Blue
    5.01 to 10: Dark Blue

  • KossuthKossuth Member UncommonPosts: 56

    Originally posted by Pyrostasis

    Originally posted by Kossuth

    Most importantly its linked to a rule of engagement called NBSI or Not Blue Shoot Instantly run by people across almost all of 0.0 sec space.

    Aka if you're not our friend you're dying for entering our space......

    Yeah there are usually two types of 0.0 space.

    NBSI = Not Blue Shoot It (I.E. If its not an ally it dies)

    and

    NRDS = Not Red Dont Shoot (I.E. if its not an enemy leave it alone)

    Yes except NRDS essentially died with CVA run Providence. The fact that Ushra'Khan claim to run NRDS is fairly laughable as 98% of the occupants there don't so NBSI has to be presumed in any engagement.

     

    Besides, not being red and having been attempted to be ambushed a few times crossing their own mostly deserted home area I wouldn't even take their propaganda news pieces as accurate.

     

    Well unless they've set me personally red and that would be plain hurtful as I drink with a few of their old schoolers at the London Eve meet regularly. ;)

     

    Emoing aside there are a number of large 0.0 entities that run NRDS in low sec - its just not advertised too much so hard to tell who.

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  • trilloeqtrilloeq Member UncommonPosts: 2

    nerds.. everyone knows red/blue comes from EQ.

    stupid space ship game.

  • MalcanisMalcanis Member UncommonPosts: 3,297

    Originally posted by trilloeq

    nerds.. everyone knows red/blue comes from EQ.

    stupid space ship game.

     

    u mad?

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  • TyphadoTyphado Member Posts: 177

    Originally posted by batolemaeus

    The term comes from the standard coloring associated with the standings system.

    The "old" standings system was/is a scale from -10 to +10.



    -10 to -5: Deep Red

    -4.99 to -0.01: Orange

    0: Neutral (grey)

    0.01 to 5: Light Blue

    5.01 to 10: Dark Blue

    would like to add if your in game there is also

    green: a member of your corp

    purple: a member of your fleet/gang

     

    Though those can both be filed under blue.

    Into the breach meatbags

  • YinkinYinkin Member Posts: 10

    Originally posted by Typhado

    green: a member of your corp

    purple: a member of your fleet/gang

     

    Though those can both usually be filed under blue.

     

    Corrected your error.

  • QuirhidQuirhid Member UncommonPosts: 6,230

    Oh sure, the term "blue" for friendly units came from UO. Even todays military have come to adopt terms from UO.

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  • mrcalhoumrcalhou Member UncommonPosts: 1,444

    Originally posted by Quirhid

    Oh sure, the term "blue" for friendly units came from UO. Even todays military have come to adopt terms from UO.

     Hmm? I'm not part of any military would you mind embellishing on this?

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  • BademBadem Member Posts: 830

    Originally posted by mrcalhou

    Originally posted by Quirhid

    Oh sure, the term "blue" for friendly units came from UO. Even todays military have come to adopt terms from UO.

     Hmm? I'm not part of any military would you mind embellishing on this?

    quoted from Wiki

    Friendly fire is inadvertent firing towards one's own or otherwise friendly forces while attempting to engage enemy forces, particularly where this results in injury or death. A death resulting from a negligent discharge is not considered friendly fire. Neither is murder, whether premeditated or in the heat of the moment, and nor is deliberate firing on one's own troops for disciplinary reasons, as in these cases there is no intent to harm the enemy.[1] Similarly, inadvertent harm to non-combatants or structures, usually referred to as "collateral damage" is also not considered to be friendly fire.[2]

    The term friendly fire was originally adopted by the United States military. Many North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) militaries refer to these incidents as blue on blue, which derives from military exercises where NATO forces were identified by blue pennants, hence "blue", and Warsaw Pact forces were identified by orange pennants. Another term for such incidents is fratricide, a word that originally refers to the act of a person killing a brother.

  • QuirhidQuirhid Member UncommonPosts: 6,230

    Originally posted by mrcalhou

    Originally posted by Quirhid

    Oh sure, the term "blue" for friendly units came from UO. Even todays military have come to adopt terms from UO.

     Hmm? I'm not part of any military would you mind embellishing on this?

    I was being sarcastic. Ofcourse it doesn't come from UO! Thank Obidom for  making that wiki quote. In military exercises, those that I've been part of, friendly units have always been marked and refered to as blue.

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  • OrphesOrphes Member UncommonPosts: 3,039

    Originally posted by Obidom

    Originally posted by mrcalhou


    Originally posted by Quirhid

    Oh sure, the term "blue" for friendly units came from UO. Even todays military have come to adopt terms from UO.

     Hmm? I'm not part of any military would you mind embellishing on this?

    quoted from Wiki

    Friendly fire is inadvertent firing towards one's own or otherwise friendly forces while attempting to engage enemy forces, particularly where this results in injury or death. A death resulting from a negligent discharge is not considered friendly fire. Neither is murder, whether premeditated or in the heat of the moment, and nor is deliberate firing on one's own troops for disciplinary reasons, as in these cases there is no intent to harm the enemy.[1] Similarly, inadvertent harm to non-combatants or structures, usually referred to as "collateral damage" is also not considered to be friendly fire.[2]

    The term friendly fire was originally adopted by the United States military. Many North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) militaries refer to these incidents as blue on blue, which derives from military exercises where NATO forces were identified by blue pennants, hence "blue", and Warsaw Pact forces were identified by orange pennants. Another term for such incidents is fratricide, a word that originally refers to the act of a person killing a brother.

     

    So NATO took this from UO?

    Or did UO take this as the developer recgnised blue=friendlies?

    I believe in coinsidents... or that 'blue' have been used to mark friendlies historically and so making it fit to use in games. Just speculating though... but that seeems more logical for me, than that some army, military, starts to adept things from a game...

     

    Think about that for awhile.

    -"Hey, we should change the colormarker for friendly forces, they use blue in this popular game Ultima Online"

    -"What the hell are you on about, what Ultimate Online thing are you talking about?"

    -"Yeah, everyone play this. So it will be alot easier for us."

    -"Ok, great idea! Let us reprints all instruction manual, all those..."

    Seriously, is this true?

     

    /Edit: Yeah, I should have figured out the sarcasm :D /

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  • TheHatterTheHatter Member Posts: 2,547

    This thread has taken a turn towards hilarity. 

  • ericbelserericbelser Member Posts: 783

    It goes back a LOT further than NATO exercises...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriegsspiel_(wargame)

    Kriegspiel, arguably the first modern example of "wargaming" originated in the early 1800s.

    "The rules set, which was modified several times established several conventions for wargaming which hold true to the present day, such as the use of maps, color coding the opposing armies as red and blue"

  • Kaelaan21Kaelaan21 Member UncommonPosts: 349

    EO? I'm not sure I've ever heard it referred as EO.

     

    Are we all becoming that lazy that EVE has become too long to type out and must be abbreviated with EO?

  • TheHatterTheHatter Member Posts: 2,547

    FACT:

    If you marked friendlies with purple, the term would be "Purple".

    FACT:

    If you marked friendliest with yellow, the term would be "Yellow".

     

    What's this discussion about anyway?

  • nickelpatnickelpat Member Posts: 661

    Blue = Good, Friendly Player

    Generally, you NEVER, EVER shoot a "Blue" or a friendly player. If they shoot at you, you put your defenses on and hightail it out of there. Individual corps have different rules, that tends to be the basic, unmodified rule.

    Blues are marked, unless you have changed the UI settings, with a little blue box with a plus (or maybe a star?) in side of it. Corp members, green box with a star, and fleet members, purple box with a star, and alliance members which I think are blue boxes with stars, are also "Blue" or friendly.

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  • OrphesOrphes Member UncommonPosts: 3,039

    Originally posted by TheHatter

    FACT:

    If you marked friendlies with purple, the term would be "Purple".

    FACT:

    If you marked friendliest with yellow, the term would be "Yellow".

     

    What's this discussion about anyway?

    FACT:

    To communicate with others you have a  language.

    FACT:

    It is easier to understand people that use the same language as yourself.

     

    Now the general term about friendles in EVE is 'blue'. Your post do not change that fact. The term 'blue' is what the OP is asking about.

     

     

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