Why you compare it with DFO (Darkfall online?) as it doesnt have an item shop o.O or i missed something.
The point i want to point out is that if they want to attract players to item shop they need offer something that every needs or wants to get. Mostly this ends offering something which gives you a benefit, that a normal player doesnt have and there for its a pay to win situation.
There for i will stick to a game with sub fee and i dont care if the sub fee is 30 dollars or 45 dollars as long its a good game.
I can somewhat understand your opinion on cash shops but not entirly since your being stupid about it. For one thing, Vindictus barely has PvP, it is a dungeon runner, so who cares about a pay to win situation? Pay to Win only matters if there is PvP involved. Plus the cash shop items barely help with PvP to begin with.
You would rather pay on outragous sub fee then have a CHOICE to buy something? That is retarded logic. I would rather have the ability to pick what I want, when I want instead of being forced to pay outragous monthly fees for a game I have no idea how long I will be playing.
Just GTFO, we don't want ignorant biased people like you around anyway.
Please provide me a link where they will state that there wont be any PvP at all if you arent able to do it GTFO yourself. Thank you for your time.
Yeah i will pay the outragous monthyl fees if a company can provide a game with a good quality and which gives you FUN. Its my opinion and there is no need to rage or being emo about it. Its simply childish.
"We"? Who are these "we" people? You are pretty ignorant if you dare to speak for more then yourself.
I'm not going to bother with this...it seems to be dungeon crawling only with no explorable world to do as you please. Just boat rides to whichever battle instance which will forseeably get old quickly in my opinion. The Item Mall offerings sound ridiculous as well...just not my speed is all. I'm sure there will be plenty of folks who will love this game though, and I think that's great. I think that the game itself sounds like a step in the right direction but far from complete so hope that the developers are given the freedom to expand on this game and open up the world. First and foremost: character customization. Just my thoughts... ;-)
if a game fails to include even the slightest attempt at a character creation system, odds are theres not much more going on then then appears at the demo.
You should eventually check out these character creation videos:
it just sounds like diablo 3, but with more emphasis on being able to swing chains and pieces of meat, and less emphasis on everything else.
Yes, let's compare a game that's been out for a year in Korea to a game that isn't even out yet nor has any real gameplay footage. Also considering that Diablo 3 will be Buy 2 Play with rumors that could have a monthly fee better have a better emphasis on everything else to Vindictus which is Free to Play.
if a game fails to include even the slightest attempt at a character creation system, odds are theres not much more going on then then appears at the demo.
You should eventually check out these character creation videos:
That looks like a lot of customization.
What is your definition of "a lot of"? It certainly does not come close to what I consider a lot. Customization, from what we have seen from videos and such is very mediocre and you have to deal with the gender locks issues on top of that.
I am personally tired of eastern games with hundreds of players exactly like my avatar. Lately many of the newer games from Asia have included very nice customization, this game seems to reverse that trend significantly.
Read about item shop at the end and my hype died immediatly
Did you really expect to play a game forever without paying anything? Why would a developer spend millions to put out a game and let people play for nothing without any incentive to spend money?
How naïve. Why do people think they are entitled to everything free of charge and are happy to play a game without paying a cent then moan when they have to get their wallet out!
There are no actual items in the cash shop. There are costumes and then there are dungeon tokens. Some dungeons require tokens others do not and they give out free dungeon tokens in game. Vindictus has the most fair and ballanced cash shop in existance. Not a single game breaking item.
Read about item shop at the end and my hype died immediatly
Did you really expect to play a game forever without paying anything? Why would a developer spend millions to put out a game and let people play for nothing without any incentive to spend money?
How naïve. Why do people think they are entitled to everything free of charge and are happy to play a game without paying a cent then moan when they have to get their wallet out!
Not very bright are you? Most people look at this game and think it will be P2P or like Guild Wars. People who like Pay to Play (IE: anyone that doesnt like Pay to Win or are older than 16) tend to hate cash shops because they create a massivly unlevel playing field and often end up costing more than pay to play games.
There are no actual items in the cash shop. There are costumes and then there are dungeon tokens. Some dungeons require tokens others do not and they give out free dungeon tokens in game. Vindictus has the most fair and ballanced cash shop in existance. Not a single game breaking item.
Alot of cash shop games start that way. Then they release new items that unbalance gameplay later in the cycle after sucking people in.
I hate to say this, but..we *have* to play as existing characters? Preset characters that a--yeah, you lost me right at that. Sorry, but the last game that I played like that -- Light or Dark Online I think -- was, while interesting playable and fine, did nothing for me. MMORPGs are about playing a role, perhaps, but I do not want to play a preset role with preset experiences in certain things.
I was excited for this, but now it's on my 'Passing this.' list.
fak, and i wanted play this.... but when i hear item shop .. i remember that casino online...ehm.. pay to win game... err i mean Battle of the Immortal :P srsly too much milking games come on market these days =.=
It really make me laugh when people cry about a game they can largely enjoy for free...mind you.. wich costs months (year?) of production and thinking have the audacity to say that the Compagny are garbage for asking ... oh got forsake 15usd out of your pocket maybe every 5 months to have the top items... Yes it prones the People who enjoy spending to do so... Plenny market in life been thriving on those Shopping craze..
And the cherry on top is those people crying will still play the game 8hrs a day and always cry in chats about the item shops...
PS: Calculate the amount of time and efforts it takes you in a P2P game system to actually be fully geared and ready.... it takes some months... and if you want an absolutely free game... then start drawing and Making rules in your head.. it wont exist in a world where Even Surviving costs us money.
oh got forsake 15usd out of your pocket maybe every 5 months to have the top items...
Someone has never played a F2P game before.
I have no problem with Vindictus' item mall. So far anyway, and I've paid into F2P games many times, but a statement like this is rediculous. To have top items in most F2P games costs considerably more than a normal 15 a month subscription, much less 15 every 5 months as you posit. Most F2P games will cost you between 30 and 100 a month at least for top items. The F2P revenue model DEPENDS on this because most players will leach for free, so they depend on the people spending hundreds of dollars a month to stay on top to even things out from the freebs.
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EU version?.. oh wait.. never going to happen.
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This isnt really a MMO is it?
Please provide me a link where they will state that there wont be any PvP at all if you arent able to do it GTFO yourself. Thank you for your time.
Yeah i will pay the outragous monthyl fees if a company can provide a game with a good quality and which gives you FUN. Its my opinion and there is no need to rage or being emo about it. Its simply childish.
"We"? Who are these "we" people? You are pretty ignorant if you dare to speak for more then yourself.
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Item shop. Pass.
I'm not going to bother with this...it seems to be dungeon crawling only with no explorable world to do as you please. Just boat rides to whichever battle instance which will forseeably get old quickly in my opinion. The Item Mall offerings sound ridiculous as well...just not my speed is all. I'm sure there will be plenty of folks who will love this game though, and I think that's great. I think that the game itself sounds like a step in the right direction but far from complete so hope that the developers are given the freedom to expand on this game and open up the world. First and foremost: character customization. Just my thoughts... ;-)
I suppose this release will be limited to NA region, excluding the rest of the world, pretty much like they did with Mabinogi?
Well hopefully a proper MMo takes some of the good ideas like the interactive environment and runs with them.
Not that I don't appreciate the information, but does anyone else think this article was written very poorly?
You should eventually check out these character creation videos:
That looks like a lot of customization.
it just sounds like diablo 3, but with more emphasis on being able to swing chains and pieces of meat, and less emphasis on everything else.
Yes, let's compare a game that's been out for a year in Korea to a game that isn't even out yet nor has any real gameplay footage. Also considering that Diablo 3 will be Buy 2 Play with rumors that could have a monthly fee better have a better emphasis on everything else to Vindictus which is Free to Play.
Nice addvert. One thing the author forgot to mention is that this game has been out for 2 years in Asia.
What is your definition of "a lot of"? It certainly does not come close to what I consider a lot. Customization, from what we have seen from videos and such is very mediocre and you have to deal with the gender locks issues on top of that.
I am personally tired of eastern games with hundreds of players exactly like my avatar. Lately many of the newer games from Asia have included very nice customization, this game seems to reverse that trend significantly.
Did you really expect to play a game forever without paying anything? Why would a developer spend millions to put out a game and let people play for nothing without any incentive to spend money?
How naïve. Why do people think they are entitled to everything free of charge and are happy to play a game without paying a cent then moan when they have to get their wallet out!
There are no actual items in the cash shop. There are costumes and then there are dungeon tokens. Some dungeons require tokens others do not and they give out free dungeon tokens in game. Vindictus has the most fair and ballanced cash shop in existance. Not a single game breaking item.
While that sounds good, every F2P MMO ever released has ended up with game influencing tiems within two years of launch. Usually within one year.
QFT. Sorry, no Pay to Win for me.
Not very bright are you? Most people look at this game and think it will be P2P or like Guild Wars. People who like Pay to Play (IE: anyone that doesnt like Pay to Win or are older than 16) tend to hate cash shops because they create a massivly unlevel playing field and often end up costing more than pay to play games.
Alot of cash shop games start that way. Then they release new items that unbalance gameplay later in the cycle after sucking people in.
I hate to say this, but..we *have* to play as existing characters? Preset characters that a--yeah, you lost me right at that. Sorry, but the last game that I played like that -- Light or Dark Online I think -- was, while interesting playable and fine, did nothing for me. MMORPGs are about playing a role, perhaps, but I do not want to play a preset role with preset experiences in certain things.
I was excited for this, but now it's on my 'Passing this.' list.
fak, and i wanted play this.... but when i hear item shop .. i remember that casino online...ehm.. pay to win game... err i mean Battle of the Immortal :P srsly too much milking games come on market these days =.=
It really make me laugh when people cry about a game they can largely enjoy for free...mind you.. wich costs months (year?) of production and thinking have the audacity to say that the Compagny are garbage for asking ... oh got forsake 15usd out of your pocket maybe every 5 months to have the top items... Yes it prones the People who enjoy spending to do so... Plenny market in life been thriving on those Shopping craze..
And the cherry on top is those people crying will still play the game 8hrs a day and always cry in chats about the item shops...
PS: Calculate the amount of time and efforts it takes you in a P2P game system to actually be fully geared and ready.... it takes some months... and if you want an absolutely free game... then start drawing and Making rules in your head.. it wont exist in a world where Even Surviving costs us money.
Someone has never played a F2P game before.
I have no problem with Vindictus' item mall. So far anyway, and I've paid into F2P games many times, but a statement like this is rediculous. To have top items in most F2P games costs considerably more than a normal 15 a month subscription, much less 15 every 5 months as you posit. Most F2P games will cost you between 30 and 100 a month at least for top items. The F2P revenue model DEPENDS on this because most players will leach for free, so they depend on the people spending hundreds of dollars a month to stay on top to even things out from the freebs.