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All Points Bulletin or Mortal Online?
Currently, I'm kinda burnt out on MMO's and have played most in-depth MMO's except APB and MO.
I'm looking for a game to at the very least tie me over until DC Universe is released, and maybe 'till SWTOR is released if DCU sucks.
I got a buddy key and played some APB for my allotted time, and definetly had fun. However, I hesitate for two reasons.
1. The matchmaking system is frustrating at the moment, and I'm not sure if I'll want to stick with it until they fix it to be rank-appropriate.
2. I've always been a big fan of fantasy/medieval/sandbox games and MO seems like a nice choice for that.
I've seen numerous negative reviews for both, but after playing APB's "free trial" I begin to wonder if MO is much better than people say as well.
So, in the end, I've been unable to make a decision, so want to know: What do you guys think? APB or MO?
Played: EQ1, EQ2, WoW, WAR, EVE, LotRO, AoC, RoM, FoM, CoX, PotBS, GW, SWG, VG, PS, and others.
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Dont try MO, that is all.
If you don't have 1-3 friends that are good at shooters or are looking for a MMO to play for a long time don't pick APB.
Gah, this makes it more difficult. = /
Played: EQ1, EQ2, WoW, WAR, EVE, LotRO, AoC, RoM, FoM, CoX, PotBS, GW, SWG, VG, PS, and others.
Never played Mortal Online, but in APB the customization is endless (none looks the same except starter clothes) and it is NOT a grind of mobs. It is strickly PVP and the game has a ton of potential and with the latest patch released today and the next one....It will squash most complaints about the game which are weapon balance and missions.
APB is very group friendly and is harder as a solo player. If you are to solo make sure to learn the threat levels that way when you take a mission you don't get raped by the higher threat level players. (Threat Level = Skill). If you are intersted in the game I can give you a buddy key (my last one / 7 hour trial, unlimited time in social district to customize if you choose). Just message me your email and it will come within a day. If you do decide to play APB, once you gain around $600 (dont take long at all) go buy an OCA instead of the starter weapon.
If you do like shooters and have some sense of skill and the use of third person you will do fine soloing. I stay between 12-14 soloing, but only hit 15 (max threat) once when I was grouped with friends. I do solo alot and witht he new matchmaking system int he works I beleive soloing will be MUCH better.
Both suck. I've been playing APB because my friend bought it for my birthday, so I play in my spare time, but the only thing it has good going for it is the custimization which is wonderful. The rest you can find more refined elements of in your regular shooter. I'd much rather waste time playing some good ol' Counter strike, or Bad company 2, than this. Because frankly, the shooter element is weak in compared to most deticated shooters.
If you HAD to play one of them though, then by all means waste some time in APB. It's nice that there is no skill curve so you can jump in the action and compete right away.
I'm waiting on planetside 2. A shooter that is truly worthy of being called a MMO is the planetside franchise. In fact planetside is the only game I would truly call a real MMOFPS. In fact, go ahead and jump into old school planetside. Yeah, the one that was released in 2003. You will have a million times more fun playing that than MO or APB.
i would love to see the customizeation salaved for a diffrent MMo, probably a social mmo (i beleive that social mmo's should be F2p to keep the commuunity together)
I have both and played both since beta and still do play both, I use APB as a filler and I play MO more as there is alot to do if you enjoy crafting, exploring PVP and such.
APB gets old fast as the matchmaking sucks, graphics are good, they say its skill base thats lie, My rank 200 can own everyone I hardly die, I rerolled i,m at 50 ish and rank 200 own me 60% of the time so, skill is used but gear over skill most of the time, and I proven that in beta and release that if you have a 2 good players and one has better gear he will win that is it.
They said it was suppose to be skilled base is BS and makes me not like APB as much I still play at times but no where near is MO as MO is changing every patch for the better, The game from beta and release until today is night and day, and still has alot of potienal.
Good luck on what you pick and play and enjoy.
i've only played MO during the open beta, and I liked it to a point. Most people here just have issues with mostly superficial problems with it, like corpses exploding into lootbags and whatnot. I hear more complaints about lame stuff than the serious.
The issues *are* there though, so if you are one to fret over insignificant problems with a game, MO is going to drive you nuts. The game can be pretty great though. The crafting is top-notch, combat pretty fluid and fun once you max out stats and get good gear (don't listen to people who never geared up past the starter axe), and the exploration + horse is probably the best I have ever seen in a game. Everything else is meh at best though, and there were prevalent hackers that could really do damage at the time. Not sure how it is nowadays though. All in all, the base of the game is excellent, but it's quite obvious that it was made by amatuers.
Never played APB, so can't comment.
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I definetly see that APB could become repetitive, but I'm still leery about trying MO. The main thing that I worry about is that from the videos on Youtube that I have watched, the combat seems clunky.
Also, do vets have a massive advantage over newbs in MO? I know the game hasn't been out long at all, but I was still curious, as that was something that turned me away from Darkfall.
Thanks for all the help, guys.
Played: EQ1, EQ2, WoW, WAR, EVE, LotRO, AoC, RoM, FoM, CoX, PotBS, GW, SWG, VG, PS, and others.
APB changes for the better as well.
This latest patch addressed the heavy camping spots for VIP missions and much more Tthe next one works on levleing out the playing field with a nerf for the OCA, NTEC and the NL9. After that they are working on changing the matchmacking system as well as how upgrades work making it so that we can't stack stright tank upgrades anymore to even the playing field out even more.
APB is a little over one month old and if people give it a change I strongly believe it will be extrmely fun. After the "pure skill" district with no mods they are working on a chaos rules zone which is straight warfare. They also have some other things planned I am sure.
Neither. Play Darkfall Online.
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I would have to say neither as well, neither have a future. But what do I know, I am just settling for WoW!
Not at all, you can seriously max out your stats in a single day while harvesting, then work on your combat skills over a couple more till they max out. Still though, avoid it if you get frustrated over little things.
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Not at all, you can seriously max out your stats in a single day while harvesting, then work on your combat skills over a couple more till they max out. Still though, avoid it if you get frustrated over little things.
I guess I'm confused then. Is skilling up a major part of the game, or is there a different form of progression that I'm unaware of?I'm mainly wondering: once you skill up to max, is there still stuff to do?
Played: EQ1, EQ2, WoW, WAR, EVE, LotRO, AoC, RoM, FoM, CoX, PotBS, GW, SWG, VG, PS, and others.
Don't bother with MO.
It's incredibly unpolished, unfinished, and boring.
There really isn't anything to do. You can be a crafter and AFK farm items all day, craft 'em, then repeat.
Or you can be a fighter and live your life in a red town because 5 kills is basically perma red right now. Red means people can kill you with no penalty, call guards on you in any town at any time, and you lose stats every single time you die.
Biggest waste of my money ever, so please don't waste yours.
Wow.
There's a Massive difference of opinions on these games, MO in particular...
I can't help but wonder which are exaggerated. I can't find many videos for MO on Youtube that were uploaded recently. They're all months ago it seems.
Sigh.
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I played MO durring beta, and they things everyone says about it were true, but I am also currently playing MO, once again, and I'll vouch for it. It's not fixed yet but the rate that they are fixing it is noteworthy.
About progression in MO- maxing your attributes can indeed be done in a couple hours, but maxing your attributes is not so much a thing that makes you competitive, and more of a thing that you'r just gonna get roflstomped by shit as pathetic as a bunny (literally) if you don't do so before starting to train your combat skills. After you train up all your starter combat skills (which also only takes a few hours, not days by any means) then the actual grind begins. It all really depends on how you want to go about it, however, as to how long and/or difficult it will be.
The best thing to do, is to go to http://mortaldata.wordpress.com/2010/06/08/mortal-online-skill-list-37/ and figure out what you want to put your points into. You get 1000 primary skill points, and they all max out at 100 each, but you get about 10 bonus points to each skill, so you simply need to pick 11 of the primary skills on that list.
Once you figure out what you want, all you have to do is buy the books for the skills you don't have (and all the secondary skillbooks under each of them, because secondary skills have no limits on how many skillpoints you can put into them).
That's the biggest part of the grind, because it's gonna cost a ton of money. The most efficient way to get it is to kill Wisents. As long as you have your attributes and starter combat skills maxed you should be able to kill them with no problems, even naked. (even unarmed, if you use the unarmed combat skills, but if you don't, you'll need whichever weapon you specialized in)
An alternative to that would be to just cut trees for fucking ever. It's totally safe, and totally boring.
But once you get all your books, then you have to read them. And some take days. And it's ingame time. But you can cancel them, if all you want is to learn the initial skill, and you plan to level them up by using the skills instead of having the books level you up. But you payed so much for the book why not take advantage of free leveling right? Plus some skills can only be leveled up by book. And it's not like you can't start having fun while you're still reading books. Try to get some armor, and join a guild if you can. That's the way to go, really.
But all in all, anyone who says Mortal Online was made by amateurs, because they played in the open beta is obviously a newb. That was open beta. As in beta. It's definately picking up now, and well worth playing.
Have you played Darkfall? And if so, is the grind as bad as that?
Edit: Also, after looking at that skill page, my head is spinning.
Played: EQ1, EQ2, WoW, WAR, EVE, LotRO, AoC, RoM, FoM, CoX, PotBS, GW, SWG, VG, PS, and others.
Neither in my opinion.
APB is not an MMO in my opinion. It was fun for the first couple of days, now I don't even have it on my PC anymore.
MO was a huge download & a huge waste of my time.
I'd say find something else or wait until a new title comes out because with those two, you'll find yourself very disappointed.
I would say that both games are really not worth your money right now. Wait for the grand opening dust to setlle as they both have major faults(read: bugs) that will put you off. You'd be better off with a F2P game until one of them is worth spending money on.
MO online admits that its stil quite a work in progress and if you're a fan of online shooters I fear you'll be dissapointed with what APB offers.
I wouldnt know what game to reccomend right now. I've been LFGame for a while too and not found anything thats stuck...
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Both sucks, mortal online is pretty much dead on population and APB is infested with aimbotters (Almost as worse as MW 2)
Mortal is not almost dead in population, it just has a small population. Honestly I'm pretty sure it's because of naysayers on forums that made it that way. The game is in no way the same as it was in beta, it has completely changed, and the people who want to try it usually don't because of the forum trolls or the people who bash it because they tried it in open beta. I enjoyed mortal, even in beta when it was bugged to hell, there are still some small annoying bugs like when you hit an enemy and it runs away forever, or buying multiple items in a shop and only getting one of them. But other than that, it is nothing like the game was in beta. APB on the other hand isn't a bad game either, can't really comment on that since I played it twice at a friends house but I liked mortal, just thought I would throw that out there.
apb is boring and has is ok for 2 weeks. after you just get bored.
MO looks ok but the combat seems rubbish.
goodluck peace
Not what I was hoping to hear. = /
That's the general vibe I'm getting from various people, even though both games still intrigue me.
I dunno, I might just have to throw darts and then take the plunge on whichever I hit. I haven't been havin' much luck with f2p lately.
Played: EQ1, EQ2, WoW, WAR, EVE, LotRO, AoC, RoM, FoM, CoX, PotBS, GW, SWG, VG, PS, and others.
I am playing APB now, and I think it is fun. But like others have mentioned, it lacks depth and content. I will continue to play off and on for a while as there is no mmo that is currently capturing my attention. Hopefully they bring other regions and types of missions soon so everyone doesn't bail.