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How does the Vatican tell the pope is dead?

DekronDekron Member UncommonPosts: 7,359

A little barbariac I think.

The formal Vatican tradition goes like this:


When a pope dies, the prefect of the papal household, currently American Archbishop James Harvey, tells the camerlengo, or chamberlain, who is the most important official running the Holy See in the period between the death of a pope and the election of a new one.


The camerlengo, now Cardinal Eduardo Martinez Somalo of Spain, must then verify the death — a process which in the past was done by striking the forehead of the pope with a silver hammer. The camerlengo then calls out to the pope three times by his baptismal name — Karol, Karol, Karol. When the pope does not respond, the camerlengo then announces "the pope is dead."


The camerlengo uses the silver hammer to smash the pope's ring — the papal seal or "ring of the fisherman" — to preclude forgery of official documents.

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  • DerfelCadarnDerfelCadarn Member Posts: 875

    Traditionally that is the case, they do not do that modernly.

    "The camerlengo's first task is to certify that the pope is dead. Traditionally, this has included tapping the pope's forehead, perhaps with a little silver hammer, and calling him three times by his first name. No response means that the pope is dead, but more precise medical equipment is used today."

  • DekronDekron Member UncommonPosts: 7,359
    ah, didn't catch that part. That would be horrible if he was still alive while getting struck on the head with a hammer!
  • DerfelCadarnDerfelCadarn Member Posts: 875

    Yea, if the pope wasnt already died, that hammer would kill him easily.

  • AdrealAdreal Member Posts: 2,087

    Reminds me of the ol' witch stories somewhat. Tie them up and throw them into a lake. If they float then they are a witch. If they sink then they are innocent. image

    "Put your foot where your mouth is." - Wisdom from my grandfather
    "Paper or plastic? ... because I'm afraid I'll have to suffocate you unless you put this bag on your head..." - Ethnitrek
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  • KiamdeKiamde Member CommonPosts: 5,820

    Let us give a moment of silence and be serious. The pope has only hours to live and we are joking around.

    "Whoever controls the media controls the mind..-'Jim Morrison"

    "When decorum is repression, the only dignity free men have is to speak out." ~Abbie Hoffman

  • AdrealAdreal Member Posts: 2,087
    If I took a moment of silence for every person who had an untelevised death then I'd have no life. But since we are presented openly with his death, then out of respect, yes, it wouldn't hurt.

    "Put your foot where your mouth is." - Wisdom from my grandfather
    "Paper or plastic? ... because I'm afraid I'll have to suffocate you unless you put this bag on your head..." - Ethnitrek
    AC1: Wierding from Harvestgain

  • ThriftThrift Member Posts: 1,783
    Do they strike him in the head with the hammer or is it just a tap on the head ... ?
  • killerTwinkiekillerTwinkie Member CommonPosts: 1,694

    It is 3 taps on the head.

    KillerTwinkie - That one guy who used to mod mmorpg.com's forums.

  • XavonXavon Member Posts: 334

    I, personally, think this could make a fantastic sport.

    I will call it Pope-Tapping.

    Take one living Pope,
    2 player take it in turns to tap the pope with a hammer,
    the one whole kills him loses,
    the other guy becomes the new pope!

    I will make millions!!

  • athildurathildur Member Posts: 50


    Originally posted by Xavon
    I, personally, think this could make a fantastic sport.I will call it Pope-Tapping.Take one living Pope,
    2 player take it in turns to tap the pope with a hammer,
    the one whole kills him loses,
    the other guy becomes the new pope!I will make millions!!

    lol, yeah this would really be a good sport. I think I'll charge up to the vatican now and start.

  • prettygamaezprettygamaez Member Posts: 21

    ohw, didn't catch that part also..but guys, don't treat this as a joke!

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384

    agreed


    but we also cannot resurrect old threads.

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

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