"Don't forget when you hit level 50 you unlock a free level 50 so if you don't wanna lose your progress then IDE recommend hitting 50 then creating your free 50 on a server that suits u more"
What is this? Iam lvl 57 and have never seen a prompt to create a free lvl 50 character?
I believe you have to start the character creation process, and then it gives you the option to start at 50.
So Catriana what game are you and your sister playing now?
I'm playing Fallen Earth. We have an all girl clan and are having a blast. I cannot speak highly enough of Icarus as a company. They are quite simply THE coolest bunch of devs on the planet. They actually play their game, understand PvP and cc's and how to create an interesting and superbly implemented crafting system. Yeah AoC has better graphics, and combos, but that's it. My sister isn't playing any mmo at the moment. She's 18 now, boy crazy and it's summertime.
Too bad Icarus never does anything towards exploiters, hackers or cheaters. Good game, but was made impossible for casuals to compete against those having done massive AP exploits, spinning the wheel, and the item stacking bug.
But why are we discussing FE on the AoC forums anyways?
So Catriana what game are you and your sister playing now?
I'm playing Fallen Earth. We have an all girl clan and are having a blast. I cannot speak highly enough of Icarus as a company. They are quite simply THE coolest bunch of devs on the planet. They actually play their game, understand PvP and cc's and how to create an interesting and superbly implemented crafting system. Yeah AoC has better graphics, and combos, but that's it. My sister isn't playing any mmo at the moment. She's 18 now, boy crazy and it's summertime.
Too bad Icarus never does anything towards exploiters, hackers or cheaters. Good game, but was made impossible for casuals to compete against those having done massive AP exploits, spinning the wheel, and the item stacking bug.
But why are we discussing FE on the AoC forums anyways?
No idea what exploits you are talking about. Never seen a cheater or anyone obviously hacking either. So you will need to present some evidence to back up your claims. I doubt it would have much of an impact in FE. Since that community in my opinion is far less likely to tolerate or indulge in cheating. Unlike AoC which is heaving with cheats.
I can for example provide examples of all of the above happening in AoC, with proof and further proof of Funcom doing diddly squat about it.
"Don't forget when you hit level 50 you unlock a free level 50 so if you don't wanna lose your progress then IDE recommend hitting 50 then creating your free 50 on a server that suits u more"
What is this? Iam lvl 57 and have never seen a prompt to create a free lvl 50 character?
I believe you have to start the character creation process, and then it gives you the option to start at 50.
I see ty
It's a one time option though. So if you make a 50 that you decide isnt right for you it's tough luck. You can't reroll and try again.
In WoW I don't HAVE to look at the trade channel EVERYTIME and EVERYWHERE, in AoC I am forced to watch the primitivisms of global everywhere. If I want a group going, I have to do it via global. That's the main problem here, everything is done via global, you'de be surprised how relaxing less-bullshitty trade channel in WoW is simply due to the new LFG system and the fact that trade is only available in main cities. Sure, one can turn off global, but then you shut the communications for trade, any chat and 6-man/25-man groups formations.
So Catriana what game are you and your sister playing now?
I'm playing Fallen Earth. We have an all girl clan and are having a blast. I cannot speak highly enough of Icarus as a company. They are quite simply THE coolest bunch of devs on the planet. They actually play their game, understand PvP and cc's and how to create an interesting and superbly implemented crafting system. Yeah AoC has better graphics, and combos, but that's it. My sister isn't playing any mmo at the moment. She's 18 now, boy crazy and it's summertime.
Too bad Icarus never does anything towards exploiters, hackers or cheaters. Good game, but was made impossible for casuals to compete against those having done massive AP exploits, spinning the wheel, and the item stacking bug.
But why are we discussing FE on the AoC forums anyways?
No idea what exploits you are talking about. Never seen a cheater or anyone obviously hacking either. So you will need to present some evidence to back up your claims. I doubt it would have much of an impact in FE. Since that community in my opinion is far less likely to tolerate or indulge in cheating. Unlike AoC which is heaving with cheats.
I can for example provide examples of all of the above happening in AoC, with proof and further proof of Funcom doing diddly squat about it.
AP exploit post (I had 5 points extra on my char which were never removed), "spinning the wheel" post (it takes time to do, but those who did it are unbeatable). The item stacking bug (can't find the post where it was discussed) happened when you moved things between your bag and the vault when the bag was overweight, and you would end up doubling the stack.
So Catriana what game are you and your sister playing now?
I'm playing Fallen Earth. We have an all girl clan and are having a blast. I cannot speak highly enough of Icarus as a company. They are quite simply THE coolest bunch of devs on the planet. They actually play their game, understand PvP and cc's and how to create an interesting and superbly implemented crafting system. Yeah AoC has better graphics, and combos, but that's it. My sister isn't playing any mmo at the moment. She's 18 now, boy crazy and it's summertime.
Too bad Icarus never does anything towards exploiters, hackers or cheaters. Good game, but was made impossible for casuals to compete against those having done massive AP exploits, spinning the wheel, and the item stacking bug.
But why are we discussing FE on the AoC forums anyways?
No idea what exploits you are talking about. Never seen a cheater or anyone obviously hacking either. So you will need to present some evidence to back up your claims. I doubt it would have much of an impact in FE. Since that community in my opinion is far less likely to tolerate or indulge in cheating. Unlike AoC which is heaving with cheats.
I can for example provide examples of all of the above happening in AoC, with proof and further proof of Funcom doing diddly squat about it.
AP exploit post (I had 5 points extra on my char which were never removed), "spinning the wheel" post (it takes time to do, but those who did it are unbeatable). The item stacking bug (can't find the post where it was discussed) happened when you moved things between your bag and the vault when the bag was overweight, and you would end up doubling the stack.
FE is a good game, no doubt about it, but it's far from flawless or less flawed than AoC.
Seems spinning the wheel is an option that one can choose if they have the time and inclination to do it. I cannot comprehend that being an exploit as it is part of the game. I do agree however that being able to use mutations not of your current faction should be addressed. Wheel spinning would require me to grind ~600k faction to go from CHOTA to the same level Enforcer. Simply not going to happen, and if anyone indulges in that, they have WAY too much time on their hands.
The AP repeatable quests were fixed, and apparently people (although some slipped through the net) had the extra AA removed and persistent offenders were banned.
As for speed and wall hacks, those will appear in any game. I've yet to see anyone use one. I have fraps at my fingertips, and if I see one he will be frapsed and reported. I would wager that this would be enough to merit a ban from Icarus. Whereas Funcom when presented with video evidence of cheats in the past have done NOTHING about it.
Compare to AoC where people exploited bosses in instances to gain a years worth of AA points in 3 days. Nothing was done. NOTHING - they didn't even get rolled back. Funcom are running scared in case they lose even more subs. Well my sub was cancelled because of the cheats. But what's 1 sub compared to the multitude of dishonest ones that are allowed to continue unpunished. They are a dishonest and disreputable company intent on sucking the marrow from your financial bones, and lying in your face sporting a big conman grin.
F2P is Aoc's only hope. They must surely be running at a loss, since by their own numbers they needed 200k subs to remain profitable. I cannot say of course how many subs they have, but 200k in this moment would seem to be way beyond what they have retained.
Fallen Earth is a fun game. I only left as I didn't like the crafting nerfs and item degradation. That and factions didn't seem to mean much with all the faction wheel spinning. Hopefully they will address some of that in the future. At least they are a very responsive company that communicates well with the players, unlike Funcom's game director 'Sil-lame' and his wishy-washy spin replies.
AoC will be going F2p soon. Might as well get used to the idea, as FC wants your cash to a)survive b)keep the shareholders happy and c)fund development of their next MMO.
I wonder if they will have ads in it like they did with AO.
In WoW I don't HAVE to look at the trade channel EVERYTIME and EVERYWHERE, in AoC I am forced to watch the primitivisms of global everywhere. If I want a group going, I have to do it via global. That's the main problem here, everything is done via global, you'de be surprised how relaxing less-bullshitty trade channel in WoW is simply due to the new LFG system and the fact that trade is only available in main cities. Sure, one can turn off global, but then you shut the communications for trade, any chat and 6-man/25-man groups formations.
On the Wiccana server at least, there is a /LFG channel that is more active for finding groups than global. As far as trade goes the game has an auction house, but there is little need if you join a decent guild since most will freely trade and supply mats to their members. Since you seem to be arguing that WoW has superior chat, IN YOUR OPINION, then I think you know the game that will make you happier.
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Funcom GM's do nothing to help either if you report them. My sister who was 17 at the time received tells threatening to rape her, gut her with a knife and leave her bleeding to death in the gutter. Tells sent incidentally by a 35 year old man. Tells which persisted after she put him on ignore and he swapped toons to continue the abuse in much the same vein except worse.
What happened ? - absolutely nothing. Funcom did not a thing. So much for their zero tolerance policy regarding sexual harrassment and abuse. Fact is they are willing to allow abuse, exploits and cheating to retain what little subscriber base they have left.
Yes this imbecile knew she was a female, yes he knew she was a kid. Seems some men just cannot handle having their arse handed to them by a girl in pvp. Especially Zarx on FURY [EU] server.
^ What a load of Bulshit )
She kept throwing him on ignore ,she even got on another toon and it didnt help,not believable in the least.Most of the time i petitioned someone GM's where there within 10 or 15 minutes sometimes a bit longer but mostly within 15 minutes and they actually stopped the tell spammer or drunk troll in global or unstuck me or fixed a game item for me afterwards asking if there is anything else they can do for me.EVERYTIME!
And now you come along with that way to dramatic story ,u-uh i am not buying that.
(the BS meter is off the charts on this one)
@ OP and OT
Global channels have always been used for fun,pranks and verbal fight or w/e in every mmo that i have seen.If anyone where to judge any game based on the global chat there wil not be much left.
Read and comprehend properly. She put him on ignore and HE swapped toons to obviate the ignore his main was on and then continued the abuse. I don't give a monkey's arse about your BS filter. The fact is people on Fury know it's true, as do the Ruscorp members who saw the tells pasted into guildchat, and the screenshots.
It would appear that your reading comprehension is as reliable as your BS filter.
Regarding GM response time, Furians will confirm that it is shocking. More times than I care to remember a petition has timed out at 4+ hours, and if you go offline you have to resubmit.
There is nothing wrong with my reading comprehension.She ignored him and he dwitched to his other toon , so what ? she could not ignore his other toons? sooner then later he would have to keep creating a new toon just to spam threat someone and delete one of his chars to boot but nooo after ignoring his toon it was obvious it would not work right!? Sure..
you also conviently dont adress the comments about AoC's GM support >.>
The drama story reeks, simple as that.
As for the exploits mentioned in the thread and how exploiters are being protected ,anyone who thinks tha that is the reason you cant post about exploiters in the forums is because the actual exploit gets talked about publicly and thus reaching more people getting mo renown and thus ....MORE EXPLOITERS duuuh .
The reason why abusive ppl are not alolowed to be posted in forums are also not because they want to protect abusive ppl.It is because if it where allowed that that option itself would get abused by ppl making ppl known to others as being abusers while in the meantime they just put those names on the forum because they are pissed because they where ganked by that person..think ppl think!
These forum rules are used in just about any P2P MMO for those same reasons.
Seems spinning the wheel is an option that one can choose if they have the time and inclination to do it. I cannot comprehend that being an exploit as it is part of the game. I do agree however that being able to use mutations not of your current faction should be addressed. Wheel spinning would require me to grind ~600k faction to go from CHOTA to the same level Enforcer. Simply not going to happen, and if anyone indulges in that, they have WAY too much time on their hands.
The AP repeatable quests were fixed, and apparently people (although some slipped through the net) had the extra AA removed and persistent offenders were banned.
As for speed and wall hacks, those will appear in any game. I've yet to see anyone use one. I have fraps at my fingertips, and if I see one he will be frapsed and reported. I would wager that this would be enough to merit a ban from Icarus. Whereas Funcom when presented with video evidence of cheats in the past have done NOTHING about it.
Compare to AoC where people exploited bosses in instances to gain a years worth of AA points in 3 days. Nothing was done. NOTHING - they didn't even get rolled back. Funcom are running scared in case they lose even more subs. Well my sub was cancelled because of the cheats. But what's 1 sub compared to the multitude of dishonest ones that are allowed to continue unpunished. They are a dishonest and disreputable company intent on sucking the marrow from your financial bones, and lying in your face sporting a big conman grin.
F2P is Aoc's only hope. They must surely be running at a loss, since by their own numbers they needed 200k subs to remain profitable. I cannot say of course how many subs they have, but 200k in this moment would seem to be way beyond what they have retained.
By those statements you have effectively proved two things:
1. You are an FE "fanboi", as in you are unable to see any flaw in that game.
2. You are an AoC "hater", as in you are unable to see anything positive in that game.
Pretty much this.
It's also called 'measuring with 2 standards', lenient towards the game you like, unforgiving towards the one you hate.
That would be fangirl actually. However I do see flaws in the game, of course I do. Nevertheless NOTHING I said about AoC was untrue. Regarding hating AoC, no I hate Funcom. Also if you care to search you can find posts where I do recommend AoC to people as a very good pve game.
That would be fangirl actually. However I do see flaws in the game, of course I do. Nevertheless NOTHING I said about AoC was untrue. Regarding hating AoC, no I hate Funcom. Also if you care to search you can find posts where I do recommend AoC to people as a very good pve game.
You're right in that. Which makes a more correct statement that you're a 'FE fan' (fanbois/girls can only acknowledge the good things and not see any bad of their object of devotion) and 'Funcom hater'.
I have no problem admitting that I am a Funcom hater Cyphers. The reasons we do not need to reiterate. Not however to the point of wanting them to fail and fold. It is beyond my capabilities as a human being to wish people lose their jobs. Which is what that would entail. Liars just simply get on my tits. Plain and simple.
If you read any post I have made responding to people enquiring about the game I have been nothing but honest. It is an excellent pve game, possibly the best out there. But as far as pvp goes, we all know just what a complete disaster Craig Morrison has steered it to.
That would be fangirl actually. However I do see flaws in the game, of course I do. Nevertheless NOTHING I said about AoC was untrue. Regarding hating AoC, no I hate Funcom. Also if you care to search you can find posts where I do recommend AoC to people as a very good pve game.
You're right in that. Which makes a more correct statement that you're a 'FE fan' (fanbois/girls can only acknowledge the good things and not see any bad of their object of devotion) and 'Funcom hater'.
I have no problem admitting that I am a Funcom hater Cyphers. The reasons we do not need to reiterate. Not however to the point of wanting them to fail and fold. It is beyond my capabilities as a human being to wish people lose their jobs. Which is what that would entail. Liars just simply get on my tits. Plain and simple.
If you read any post I have made responding to people enquiring about the game I have been nothing but honest. It is an excellent pve game, possibly the best out there. But as far as pvp goes, we all know just what a complete disaster Craig Morrison has steered it to.
Cyphers despite what you think many of us former AoC players spent years trying to get Funcom to make much needed improvements just to watch the game sail in the wrong direction, we gave them our money, our time and our hope for a great MMO, just to watch all our hope and dreams for this possibly great MMO get flushed down the toilet. A balance PvP/PvE game, with revolutionary PvP is what we were promised, what we have now is a game with broken PvP and a decent PvE game. Of course we are bitter, some of us would probably go back to the game if we got what we were originally promised, but as I stated before the game would be better off just scrapping PvP all together and going hardcore PvE.
I've not been on the PvP servers but the AoC forum is full of people who have and how they find PvP Global.
I have only been on Crom PvE and it has generally been civil, that was until a Fury guild decided to jump on to Crom to farm Bori (Bori is a hole different pile of wtf, mining minerals is considered PvP :S) and global went into retard meltdown.
Thing was though, all other guilds on Crom formed an ignore script to block all the Fury tards that spammed Global, it was so sucessful that the Guild Leader got his members to clean up their act. They have been good on the whole since then but still have some relapses. Old dogs learning new tricks and all that.
So it seems the Global crap is mainly on PvP servers. With all that killing each other the need to shit talk is overwhelming.
Yup, I've never seen as much profanity and racism as I have in AoC.
Well, in the PvE servers it is about the same as Wow or GW. The PvP servers however have some real nuts.
But PvP servers often brings out the worst in some peoples, I played EQ2 3 months on a PvP server and 3 years on a PvE and still heard at least 10 times as much crap on the PvP server.
Not sure why that is actually, I seen really nice people turning into morons on such servers.
I've not been on the PvP servers but the AoC forum is full of people who have and how they find PvP Global.
I have only been on Crom PvE and it has generally been civil, that was until a Fury guild decided to jump on to Crom to farm Bori (Bori is a hole different pile of wtf, mining minerals is considered PvP :S) and global went into retard meltdown.
Thing was though, all other guilds on Crom formed an ignore script to block all the Fury tards that spammed Global, it was so sucessful that the Guild Leader got his members to clean up their act. They have been good on the whole since then but still have some relapses. Old dogs learning new tricks and all that.
So it seems the Global crap is mainly on PvP servers. With all that killing each other the need to shit talk is overwhelming.
I agree, though we have had Kinghoxbaby trashtalking way before the Furians came..
Cyphers despite what you think many of us former AoC players spent years trying to get Funcom to make much needed improvements just to watch the game sail in the wrong direction, we gave them our money, our time and our hope for a great MMO, just to watch all our hope and dreams for this possibly great MMO get flushed down the toilet. A balance PvP/PvE game, with revolutionary PvP is what we were promised, what we have now is a game with broken PvP and a decent PvE game. Of course we are bitter, some of us would probably go back to the game if we got what we were originally promised, but as I stated before the game would be better off just scrapping PvP all together and going hardcore PvE.
This is the kind of post I can go along with and have no problem with. Thanks
I myself didn't start playing AoC bc of the hype or promises made before launch - I came late to AoC -, but sure I do understand where people like you and Catriona are coming from.
As mentioned in other posts, I even agree completely with a number of arguments: the AoC launch was a fuck up, the artifically increased hype didn't deliver and only partially fulfilled so the anger of MMO gamers and FC loss of credibility and reputation were fully deserved, and Bori was a big, BIG mistake the way it was released. Besides that, i think that AoC - due to its graphics and polygon heavy world and the way it is coded - is a resource hog. No matter how much redevelopment and recoding is being done, I doubt if it'll ever know battles with 100+ people.
The things in which I don't agree with the opinions the majority of trolls/haters/anti-AoC or anti-FC posters have, is that the game hasn't improved since launch, or that Morrison is nothing more than a liar: sure, he made some bad comments and he has been better with his PvE decisions than PvP decisions, but he's doing better than a lot of other game directors. Also, I found the launch of RotGS a vast improvement upon the AoC launch 2 years ago, the number of annoyances I had with stability or gameplay features was significantly less than 2 years ago, the months after launch.
But, to each their own opinion.
Even while I understand that bitter disappointment would make you say that FC should scrap PvP altogether and focus on PvE, that's not gonna happen: for the simple reason that the possibility of PvP has to be in the mix for an MMO, however flawed it may be.
Originally posted by Loke666
Originally posted by skeaser
Yup, I've never seen as much profanity and racism as I have in AoC.
Well, in the PvE servers it is about the same as Wow or GW. The PvP servers however have some real nuts.
But PvP servers often brings out the worst in some peoples, I played EQ2 3 months on a PvP server and 3 years on a PvE and still heard at least 10 times as much crap on the PvP server.
Not sure why that is actually, I seen really nice people turning into morons on such servers.
I think it's because of the PvP thing: seeking out conflict, a continuing goal being to defeat other players and be victorious and the joy it brings. Some limit their PvP to only the fights, but others take the fight one step further, into forum PvP like flaming and trolling, or psychological warfare (consciously or unconsciously) like trash talking people in global chat or tells.
An advantage though is that a lot of people grow thicker skin towards such things and aren't easily perturbed when they get ganked or trash talked to. You simply have to adapt to keep having fun.
But it sure makes the difference between PvP servers and PvE servers and their communities as the difference between a wild jungle with the only rules the law of the jungle and a more cultivated park or nature preserve.
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums: Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
So the M rating of the game protects the childish behaviour of those in the Age of Conan community that like to verbally harass other players? Hmmmmm I suggest you look up the definition of maturity because you cleary do not know what that word means.
What it means have nothing to do with rating system. M rating describe what can be used in the game, that includes "mature language" in case of AOC which means it's not "illegal" to use it there. Rest is your personal preferences.
rofl, so "M" rating, according to you, means you can whisper people all sorts of profanities, abuses and slurs?
Like the guy said, you should first know what the definition of "M" rating-game means. Telling people racist remarks, threaten to kill them or even rape them does not constitute the "M" rating-game environment.
No NPC ever says "fuck", "cunt" directly, and the mature rating does not mean players can curse, swear all they want. As soon as you officially allow profanities, racism soon follows, and if you think AoC officially allows racist remarks ... well, you really need to get your head out of the sand.
So, according to you, the guy who threatened Catriona's sister has a right to do that? Do you even realize what you're suggesting?
And like I said, the problem is you NEED the global channel for everything, unless you're in a super-duper guild that's got everything . You need it for trading, looking for 6 man groups, raids, advice, you name it ... yes, that includes talking nonsense and crap, usually this means people either bashing each other or talking about WoW (every couple of months I revisit the game and WoW always pops up in global ...)
I really don't care if people use the f-word or whatever, what I do care about is a level playing field and people openly talking about exploiting is definatly a turn off. I would of course report them first and see if they are taken care off.
It reminds me of how cheaters ruined Diablo II
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I like AoC, one of the things I really like is the brutal feel of the game, mostly due to the mature setting I guess. It's somewhat what I'd imagine medieval times were, not the teletubbie variant other games go with. I tried first at launch, but decided to wait out the bugs and lack of content, recently tested again and had a blast.
It has its flaws, just as every other MMOG atm. Will be interesting to see if GW2 pulls off their stuff, and TOR holds promise too.
I've experienced the occasional rude or non-pc discussions on chat....but neither to the severity nor the frequency as stated by the OP. Granted...most of global chat flies by like a teleprompt feeder on crack so I never really notice it that much. I usually have a pleasant experience in game ..chat or otherwise.
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Oh please, every game is the same.
I see ty
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Too bad Icarus never does anything towards exploiters, hackers or cheaters. Good game, but was made impossible for casuals to compete against those having done massive AP exploits, spinning the wheel, and the item stacking bug.
But why are we discussing FE on the AoC forums anyways?
No idea what exploits you are talking about. Never seen a cheater or anyone obviously hacking either. So you will need to present some evidence to back up your claims. I doubt it would have much of an impact in FE. Since that community in my opinion is far less likely to tolerate or indulge in cheating. Unlike AoC which is heaving with cheats.
I can for example provide examples of all of the above happening in AoC, with proof and further proof of Funcom doing diddly squat about it.
Tranca [RUS corp]
It's a one time option though. So if you make a 50 that you decide isnt right for you it's tough luck. You can't reroll and try again.
Tranca [RUS corp]
In WoW I don't HAVE to look at the trade channel EVERYTIME and EVERYWHERE, in AoC I am forced to watch the primitivisms of global everywhere. If I want a group going, I have to do it via global. That's the main problem here, everything is done via global, you'de be surprised how relaxing less-bullshitty trade channel in WoW is simply due to the new LFG system and the fact that trade is only available in main cities. Sure, one can turn off global, but then you shut the communications for trade, any chat and 6-man/25-man groups formations.
AP exploit post (I had 5 points extra on my char which were never removed), "spinning the wheel" post (it takes time to do, but those who did it are unbeatable). The item stacking bug (can't find the post where it was discussed) happened when you moved things between your bag and the vault when the bag was overweight, and you would end up doubling the stack.
For added bonus, FE speed hax and wall hax.
FE is a good game, no doubt about it, but it's far from flawless or less flawed than AoC.
Seems spinning the wheel is an option that one can choose if they have the time and inclination to do it. I cannot comprehend that being an exploit as it is part of the game. I do agree however that being able to use mutations not of your current faction should be addressed. Wheel spinning would require me to grind ~600k faction to go from CHOTA to the same level Enforcer. Simply not going to happen, and if anyone indulges in that, they have WAY too much time on their hands.
The AP repeatable quests were fixed, and apparently people (although some slipped through the net) had the extra AA removed and persistent offenders were banned.
As for speed and wall hacks, those will appear in any game. I've yet to see anyone use one. I have fraps at my fingertips, and if I see one he will be frapsed and reported. I would wager that this would be enough to merit a ban from Icarus. Whereas Funcom when presented with video evidence of cheats in the past have done NOTHING about it.
Compare to AoC where people exploited bosses in instances to gain a years worth of AA points in 3 days. Nothing was done. NOTHING - they didn't even get rolled back. Funcom are running scared in case they lose even more subs. Well my sub was cancelled because of the cheats. But what's 1 sub compared to the multitude of dishonest ones that are allowed to continue unpunished. They are a dishonest and disreputable company intent on sucking the marrow from your financial bones, and lying in your face sporting a big conman grin.
F2P is Aoc's only hope. They must surely be running at a loss, since by their own numbers they needed 200k subs to remain profitable. I cannot say of course how many subs they have, but 200k in this moment would seem to be way beyond what they have retained.
Tranca [RUS corp]
Fallen Earth is a fun game. I only left as I didn't like the crafting nerfs and item degradation. That and factions didn't seem to mean much with all the faction wheel spinning. Hopefully they will address some of that in the future. At least they are a very responsive company that communicates well with the players, unlike Funcom's game director 'Sil-lame' and his wishy-washy spin replies.
AoC will be going F2p soon. Might as well get used to the idea, as FC wants your cash to a)survive b)keep the shareholders happy and c)fund development of their next MMO.
I wonder if they will have ads in it like they did with AO.
On the Wiccana server at least, there is a /LFG channel that is more active for finding groups than global. As far as trade goes the game has an auction house, but there is little need if you join a decent guild since most will freely trade and supply mats to their members. Since you seem to be arguing that WoW has superior chat, IN YOUR OPINION, then I think you know the game that will make you happier.
Cheers!
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There is nothing wrong with my reading comprehension.She ignored him and he dwitched to his other toon , so what ? she could not ignore his other toons? sooner then later he would have to keep creating a new toon just to spam threat someone and delete one of his chars to boot but nooo after ignoring his toon it was obvious it would not work right!? Sure..
you also conviently dont adress the comments about AoC's GM support >.>
The drama story reeks, simple as that.
As for the exploits mentioned in the thread and how exploiters are being protected ,anyone who thinks tha that is the reason you cant post about exploiters in the forums is because the actual exploit gets talked about publicly and thus reaching more people getting mo renown and thus ....MORE EXPLOITERS duuuh .
The reason why abusive ppl are not alolowed to be posted in forums are also not because they want to protect abusive ppl.It is because if it where allowed that that option itself would get abused by ppl making ppl known to others as being abusers while in the meantime they just put those names on the forum because they are pissed because they where ganked by that person..think ppl think!
These forum rules are used in just about any P2P MMO for those same reasons.
That would be fangirl actually. However I do see flaws in the game, of course I do. Nevertheless NOTHING I said about AoC was untrue. Regarding hating AoC, no I hate Funcom. Also if you care to search you can find posts where I do recommend AoC to people as a very good pve game.
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I have no problem admitting that I am a Funcom hater Cyphers. The reasons we do not need to reiterate. Not however to the point of wanting them to fail and fold. It is beyond my capabilities as a human being to wish people lose their jobs. Which is what that would entail. Liars just simply get on my tits. Plain and simple.
If you read any post I have made responding to people enquiring about the game I have been nothing but honest. It is an excellent pve game, possibly the best out there. But as far as pvp goes, we all know just what a complete disaster Craig Morrison has steered it to.
Tranca [RUS corp]
Cyphers despite what you think many of us former AoC players spent years trying to get Funcom to make much needed improvements just to watch the game sail in the wrong direction, we gave them our money, our time and our hope for a great MMO, just to watch all our hope and dreams for this possibly great MMO get flushed down the toilet. A balance PvP/PvE game, with revolutionary PvP is what we were promised, what we have now is a game with broken PvP and a decent PvE game. Of course we are bitter, some of us would probably go back to the game if we got what we were originally promised, but as I stated before the game would be better off just scrapping PvP all together and going hardcore PvE.
To put this thread back on track:
I've not been on the PvP servers but the AoC forum is full of people who have and how they find PvP Global.
I have only been on Crom PvE and it has generally been civil, that was until a Fury guild decided to jump on to Crom to farm Bori (Bori is a hole different pile of wtf, mining minerals is considered PvP :S) and global went into retard meltdown.
Thing was though, all other guilds on Crom formed an ignore script to block all the Fury tards that spammed Global, it was so sucessful that the Guild Leader got his members to clean up their act. They have been good on the whole since then but still have some relapses. Old dogs learning new tricks and all that.
So it seems the Global crap is mainly on PvP servers. With all that killing each other the need to shit talk is overwhelming.
Well, in the PvE servers it is about the same as Wow or GW. The PvP servers however have some real nuts.
But PvP servers often brings out the worst in some peoples, I played EQ2 3 months on a PvP server and 3 years on a PvE and still heard at least 10 times as much crap on the PvP server.
Not sure why that is actually, I seen really nice people turning into morons on such servers.
I agree, though we have had Kinghoxbaby trashtalking way before the Furians came..
This is the kind of post I can go along with and have no problem with. Thanks
I myself didn't start playing AoC bc of the hype or promises made before launch - I came late to AoC -, but sure I do understand where people like you and Catriona are coming from.
As mentioned in other posts, I even agree completely with a number of arguments: the AoC launch was a fuck up, the artifically increased hype didn't deliver and only partially fulfilled so the anger of MMO gamers and FC loss of credibility and reputation were fully deserved, and Bori was a big, BIG mistake the way it was released. Besides that, i think that AoC - due to its graphics and polygon heavy world and the way it is coded - is a resource hog. No matter how much redevelopment and recoding is being done, I doubt if it'll ever know battles with 100+ people.
The things in which I don't agree with the opinions the majority of trolls/haters/anti-AoC or anti-FC posters have, is that the game hasn't improved since launch, or that Morrison is nothing more than a liar: sure, he made some bad comments and he has been better with his PvE decisions than PvP decisions, but he's doing better than a lot of other game directors. Also, I found the launch of RotGS a vast improvement upon the AoC launch 2 years ago, the number of annoyances I had with stability or gameplay features was significantly less than 2 years ago, the months after launch.
But, to each their own opinion.
Even while I understand that bitter disappointment would make you say that FC should scrap PvP altogether and focus on PvE, that's not gonna happen: for the simple reason that the possibility of PvP has to be in the mix for an MMO, however flawed it may be.
I think it's because of the PvP thing: seeking out conflict, a continuing goal being to defeat other players and be victorious and the joy it brings. Some limit their PvP to only the fights, but others take the fight one step further, into forum PvP like flaming and trolling, or psychological warfare (consciously or unconsciously) like trash talking people in global chat or tells.
An advantage though is that a lot of people grow thicker skin towards such things and aren't easily perturbed when they get ganked or trash talked to. You simply have to adapt to keep having fun.
But it sure makes the difference between PvP servers and PvE servers and their communities as the difference between a wild jungle with the only rules the law of the jungle and a more cultivated park or nature preserve.
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What it means have nothing to do with rating system. M rating describe what can be used in the game, that includes "mature language" in case of AOC which means it's not "illegal" to use it there. Rest is your personal preferences.
rofl, so "M" rating, according to you, means you can whisper people all sorts of profanities, abuses and slurs?
Like the guy said, you should first know what the definition of "M" rating-game means. Telling people racist remarks, threaten to kill them or even rape them does not constitute the "M" rating-game environment.
No NPC ever says "fuck", "cunt" directly, and the mature rating does not mean players can curse, swear all they want. As soon as you officially allow profanities, racism soon follows, and if you think AoC officially allows racist remarks ... well, you really need to get your head out of the sand.
So, according to you, the guy who threatened Catriona's sister has a right to do that? Do you even realize what you're suggesting?
And like I said, the problem is you NEED the global channel for everything, unless you're in a super-duper guild that's got everything . You need it for trading, looking for 6 man groups, raids, advice, you name it ... yes, that includes talking nonsense and crap, usually this means people either bashing each other or talking about WoW (every couple of months I revisit the game and WoW always pops up in global ...)
I really don't care if people use the f-word or whatever, what I do care about is a level playing field and people openly talking about exploiting is definatly a turn off. I would of course report them first and see if they are taken care off.
It reminds me of how cheaters ruined Diablo II
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I like AoC, one of the things I really like is the brutal feel of the game, mostly due to the mature setting I guess. It's somewhat what I'd imagine medieval times were, not the teletubbie variant other games go with. I tried first at launch, but decided to wait out the bugs and lack of content, recently tested again and had a blast.
It has its flaws, just as every other MMOG atm. Will be interesting to see if GW2 pulls off their stuff, and TOR holds promise too.
Agreed!
One can minimize their exposure to people they don't like in these games. Join a good clan and turn off global.
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I've experienced the occasional rude or non-pc discussions on chat....but neither to the severity nor the frequency as stated by the OP. Granted...most of global chat flies by like a teleprompt feeder on crack so I never really notice it that much. I usually have a pleasant experience in game ..chat or otherwise.
Lets end the personal attacks guys and get this thread back on topic.