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The Suit and tie is a lie

CacaphonyCacaphony Member Posts: 738

Why again are we putting formal wear from the 21st century into STO?  I was expecting something like the gold trim dress uniforms or something.  Sure, its a small thing and a non issue to some.   But I just had to lol when I saw it and thought I would share it with y'all.

 

http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=175021

I dont mind formal wear, but I was expecting something from the proper time period. 

 

How do you feel about this, and does it bother you that its in the C store? 

 

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  • Kaynos1972Kaynos1972 Member Posts: 2,316

    Cowboy hats are next.....

  • Cameron27Cameron27 Member Posts: 142

    LOL

    "I will not play it nor any other MMO until they make it possible to obtain the best gear without forcing people to group up to do so." SwampRob

  • kaltoumkaltoum Member Posts: 304

    And the crying over C'STORE continues.......

    90% of haters are begging for love. 10% just want a little attention -- Paulo Coelho

  • CacaphonyCacaphony Member Posts: 738

    I fully expected some type of dress/formal clothes in the game.  This isn't even related to starfleet.  Im not sure if civilians in the 25th century wear this stuff, but ive never seen it other than picard playing Dixon Hill on the holodeck, and that was what.... a 1940's program?

  • SevenwindSevenwind Member UncommonPosts: 2,188

    Originally posted by Cacaphony

    I fully expected some type of dress/formal clothes in the game.  This isn't even related to starfleet.  Im not sure if civilians in the 25th century wear this stuff, but ive never seen it other than picard playing Dixon Hill on the holodeck, and that was what.... a 1940's program?

     I think it would be very cool for them to make some type of holodeck missions. Just grab some art out of CO (for example) and create some missions.

    But not to happy about the choices for casual wear.

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  • DinendaeDinendae Member Posts: 1,264

    Originally posted by Cacaphony

    I fully expected some type of dress/formal clothes in the game.  This isn't even related to starfleet.  Im not sure if civilians in the 25th century wear this stuff, but ive never seen it other than picard playing Dixon Hill on the holodeck, and that was what.... a 1940's program?

     Actually, I think Dixon Hill was based on more of the 1920's film style, rather than the 1940's, but I could be wrong. I have to agree on the suits not looking very Star Trek, outside of those holodeck programs and the one or two times they went back in time to those eras. I was expecting something more along the lines of what Harry Mudd, Cyrano Jones, or some of the other civilian dress clothing you might have seen in the various shows, along with Starfleet dress uniforms from the various eras. These look like something they ported directly from CoH/CoV or CO, specifically that mob faction from CoH (The Family?).

    "Oh my, how horrible, someone is criticizing a MMO. Oh yeah, that is what a forum is about, looking at both sides. You rather have to be critical of anything in this genre as of late because the track record of these major studios has just been appalling." -Ozmodan

  • david13edavid13e Member Posts: 50

    Originally posted by kaltoum

    And the crying over C'STORE continues.......

     I don't believe this thread should be considered crying over the C'Store, more laughing at the C-Store.

  • CacaphonyCacaphony Member Posts: 738

    Originally posted by Dinendae

    Originally posted by Cacaphony

    I fully expected some type of dress/formal clothes in the game.  This isn't even related to starfleet.  Im not sure if civilians in the 25th century wear this stuff, but ive never seen it other than picard playing Dixon Hill on the holodeck, and that was what.... a 1940's program?

     Actually, I think Dixon Hill was based on more of the 1920's film style, rather than the 1940's, but I could be wrong. I have to agree on the suits not looking very Star Trek, outside of those holodeck programs and the one or two times they went back in time to those eras. I was expecting something more along the lines of what Harry Mudd, Cyrano Jones, or some of the other civilian dress clothing you might have seen in the various shows, along with Starfleet dress uniforms from the various eras. These look like something they ported directly from CoH/CoV or CO, specifically that mob faction from CoH (The Family?).

     Memory alpha says 1941, so I guess i had a lucky guess.

    http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Dixon_Hill

  • CacaphonyCacaphony Member Posts: 738

    Originally posted by david13e

    Originally posted by kaltoum

    And the crying over C'STORE continues.......

     I don't believe this thread should be considered crying over the C'Store, more laughing at the C-Store.

     Heh yeah... laughing is more like it. 

  • CacaphonyCacaphony Member Posts: 738

    Originally posted by kaltoum

    And the crying over C'STORE continues.......

     If you are reffering to this thread, my intention is not to "cry" over this particullar addition to the c store.  I just wanted to share this info and asked peoples opinions about it being put into the store.  No one here is hardly crying about it.

    If you are reffering to the sto forum posters, I do not believe the epicness reached in the crying/whining dept reguarding the Gal X will be reached soon.  But I could be wrong.

  • gandalesgandales Member UncommonPosts: 472

    If you don't want those costumes,  send them over to CO, we can take advantage of more formal wearing pieces.

  • AG-VukAG-Vuk Member UncommonPosts: 823

    Based on this I'd say Atari is in trouble , considering the First quarter started April 1 , I'd say the bump STO gave them has pretty well worn off. 

    http://www.joystiq.com/2010/07/26/atari-sales-down-in-q1-online-is-the-glimmer-of-hope/

    Now the good news may in actuality be an accounting trick , to avoid taxes , and make the quarter appear better .  Oh, here comes F2P , btw .

    http://www.physorg.com/news200736010.html

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  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 4,411

    In Star Trek Enterprise series they still wore suits and ties for formal events and in the new movie there is a guy in a suit and tie on the ship when Kirk first meets Bones.

  • SevenwindSevenwind Member UncommonPosts: 2,188

    Originally posted by gandales

    If you don't want those costumes,  send them over to CO, we can take advantage of more formal wearing pieces.

     Yes Yes! Course we would probably have to pay for them too. I do agree CO should have more formal wearing pieces.

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  • grapevinegrapevine Member UncommonPosts: 1,927

    Actually the CO team have historically added (by far) the majority of additional costume pieces for "free".  Its the STO team that are c-store crazy.

     

    Why they added these is strange.  They don't fit the game at all.  However, they are drifting further away from canon with each patch.

     

     

  • Xondar123Xondar123 Member CommonPosts: 2,543

    Originally posted by Cacaphony

    I fully expected some type of dress/formal clothes in the game.  This isn't even related to starfleet.  Im not sure if civilians in the 25th century wear this stuff, but ive never seen it other than picard playing Dixon Hill on the holodeck, and that was what.... a 1940's program?

    They've never shown a suit and tie as shown in the image you posted in use in Star Trek outside of the holodeck or on a primitive planet/another time period.

    The suits as shown in the image don't fit in at all with the Star Trek universe.

  • CacaphonyCacaphony Member Posts: 738

    Originally posted by Xondar123

    Originally posted by Cacaphony

    I fully expected some type of dress/formal clothes in the game.  This isn't even related to starfleet.  Im not sure if civilians in the 25th century wear this stuff, but ive never seen it other than picard playing Dixon Hill on the holodeck, and that was what.... a 1940's program?

    They've never shown a suit and tie as shown in the image you posted in use in Star Trek outside of the holodeck or on a primitive planet/another time period.

    The suits as shown in the image don't fit in at all with the Star Trek universe.

     You are right.  I referenced the Dixon Hill thing because the suit he wears in that  program is the closest thing I could think of in reguards to the image.   No, they most definatley do not fit in with the Trek universe.

  • Xondar123Xondar123 Member CommonPosts: 2,543

    Originally posted by grapevine

    Actually the CO team have historically added (by far) the majority of additional costume pieces for "free".  Its the STO team that are c-store crazy.

     

    Why they added these is strange.  They don't fit the game at all.  However, they are drifting further away from canon with each patch.

    I don't think Cryptic was interestedv in canon in the first place. The more I see of STO (and that includes over 30 hours of playtime) the more convinced I am that the STO devs aren't Star Trek fans at all. It's a job they have to do: milking a popular IP for profit for their corporate masters. They don't give two shits for the source material.

  • DinendaeDinendae Member Posts: 1,264

    Originally posted by Sevenwind

    Originally posted by gandales

    If you don't want those costumes,  send them over to CO, we can take advantage of more formal wearing pieces.

     Yes Yes! Course we would probably have to pay for them too. I do agree CO should have more formal wearing pieces.

     I agree; those fit into CO's timeperiod far better.

    "Oh my, how horrible, someone is criticizing a MMO. Oh yeah, that is what a forum is about, looking at both sides. You rather have to be critical of anything in this genre as of late because the track record of these major studios has just been appalling." -Ozmodan

  • DinendaeDinendae Member Posts: 1,264

    Originally posted by Horusra

    In Star Trek Enterprise series they still wore suits and ties for formal events and in the new movie there is a guy in a suit and tie on the ship when Kirk first meets Bones.

     The thing is, you never saw those in Star Trek (TOS) or the later shows (outside of the previously mentioned holodeck programs; STO is set 30 years after the Nemesis movie.

    "Oh my, how horrible, someone is criticizing a MMO. Oh yeah, that is what a forum is about, looking at both sides. You rather have to be critical of anything in this genre as of late because the track record of these major studios has just been appalling." -Ozmodan

  • DinendaeDinendae Member Posts: 1,264

    Originally posted by AG-Vuk

    Based on this I'd say Atari is in trouble , considering the First quarter started April 1 , I'd say the bump STO gave them has pretty well worn off. 

    http://www.joystiq.com/2010/07/26/atari-sales-down-in-q1-online-is-the-glimmer-of-hope/

    Now the good news may in actuality be an accounting trick , to avoid taxes , and make the quarter appear better .  Oh, here comes F2P , btw .

    http://www.physorg.com/news200736010.html

       There were a couple problems with that last article: First they compared STO's player numbers to WoW's, with the comment "operates multiplayer online games such as the recently released "Star Trek Online" and "Champions Online," both of which have very small user bases compared with the market-dominating "World of Warcraft."" Well, duh! Most MMO games out there have tiny user bases compared to WoW's. They should have compared it to other MMOs, and not the proverbial 800 pound gorilla.

       They also failed to take into account that even though Atari has "$13.4 million in cash and a $57.4 million credit line, plus $25.4 million in debt," that credit line is set to expire in December of this year. Also, the credit that they have used up exceeds that $13.4 million they have in cash. I wonder if this new guy they brought in can actually turn things around? In particular, I wonder if he can keep them afloat so that they can spend a proper amount of time on this next MMO they've been working on, or if they will have to shove it out the door in order to generate some quick cash.

       I wonder about the frequent HQ changes as well; does California have a more liberal bankruptcy law, one that would benefit Atari more than New York or France? That's the only way, other than another extension, that I can see them getting out from under the masive debt they have coming due.

    "Oh my, how horrible, someone is criticizing a MMO. Oh yeah, that is what a forum is about, looking at both sides. You rather have to be critical of anything in this genre as of late because the track record of these major studios has just been appalling." -Ozmodan

  • bstiffbstiff Member Posts: 359

    UGH! If it hasn't happened already, I think it's safe to say STO has officially jumped the shark. Or targ, or whatever those vampire panda looking things are supposed to be.

  • AG-VukAG-Vuk Member UncommonPosts: 823

    Originally posted by Dinendae

    Originally posted by AG-Vuk

    Based on this I'd say Atari is in trouble , considering the First quarter started April 1 , I'd say the bump STO gave them has pretty well worn off. 

    http://www.joystiq.com/2010/07/26/atari-sales-down-in-q1-online-is-the-glimmer-of-hope/

    Now the good news may in actuality be an accounting trick , to avoid taxes , and make the quarter appear better .  Oh, here comes F2P , btw .

    http://www.physorg.com/news200736010.html

       There were a couple problems with that last article: First they compared STO's player numbers to WoW's, with the comment "operates multiplayer online games such as the recently released "Star Trek Online" and "Champions Online," both of which have very small user bases compared with the market-dominating "World of Warcraft."" Well, duh! Most MMO games out there have tiny user bases compared to WoW's. They should have compared it to other MMOs, and not the proverbial 800 pound gorilla.

       They also failed to take into account that even though Atari has "$13.4 million in cash and a $57.4 million credit line, plus $25.4 million in debt," that credit line is set to expire in December of this year. Also, the credit that they have used up exceeds that $13.4 million they have in cash. I wonder if this new guy they brought in can actually turn things around? In particular, I wonder if he can keep them afloat so that they can spend a proper amount of time on this next MMO they've been working on, or if they will have to shove it out the door in order to generate some quick cash.

       I wonder about the frequent HQ changes as well; does California have a more liberal bankruptcy law, one that would benefit Atari more than New York or France? That's the only way, other than another extension, that I can see them getting out from under the masive debt they have coming due.

     It's very possible with this amount of debt that a court may decide that a Chapter 11 is not reasonable nor possible and force them into Chapter 7 . In which case all the assests are sold .  They have to be able to prove to the courts that the new business plan is viable and that the debt is keeping them from performing well as a company, with a sustainable cash flow .  I think they're going to have a tough go of it. Especially considering there debt is double the cash reserves with a substantial drop in income.

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  • DinendaeDinendae Member Posts: 1,264

    Originally posted by AG-Vuk

     

     It's very possible with this amount of debt that a court may decide that a Chapter 11 is not reasonable nor possible and force them into Chapter 7 . In which case all the assests are sold .  They have to be able to prove to the courts that the new business plan is viable and that the debt is keeping them from performing well as a company, with a sustainable cash flow .  I think they're going to have a tough go of it. Especially considering there debt is double the cash reserves with a substantial drop in income.

     Is that the case in California though? I know in most states here in the Midwest that would most likely be the case if they filed bankruptcy. However, as I understand it, the laws are a bit more liberal in California and may favor Atari's position more. I could be wrong though; I'm not generally up to speed on the West Coast's laws, which seem to range from liberal to downright wacky at times.

    "Oh my, how horrible, someone is criticizing a MMO. Oh yeah, that is what a forum is about, looking at both sides. You rather have to be critical of anything in this genre as of late because the track record of these major studios has just been appalling." -Ozmodan

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