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Is it really just like WoW?
SgtEcho
Member Posts: 139
I'm fairly new to this site and have been lurking the threads for long enough. What I've noticed is that a lot of users compare nearly everything with WoW, or say that well WoW does this or they started that. This is untrue and I'm tired of people saying that whatever elements are in WoW and appear in other games are bad things and unoriginal.
First of all, before WoW there was EQ. What WoW was meant to do was to built off of the elements and skeleton of EQ and do it better. WoW is really as basic as it gets and is nothing extremely innovating. It's basically a skeleton of an MMO an with each new MMO that comes out people are complaining that this new game uses a femur or perhaps the spine. So truth be told it is extremely difficult to make an entire MMORPG without using some of the basic elements WoW and EQ have used because of how basic it is.
I noticed early today is a previous thread talking about Rift that the colors looked 'WoW-ish'. Yes, using the colors of the rainbow means it came from World of Warcraft. I guess this can't be avoided, there will always be ignorant people. WoW and EQ are outlines and the newer MMOs that are coming out are just trying to fill in the middle with new ideas but are overlooked because of how big such a basic MMO has become.
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Yup, i saw that, pure fail right there.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
For every person who says everything is WoW or copied WoW, there is someone who says WoW copied EQ. For all of those people who only know MMOs as WoW, there are just as many who only know MMOs as EQ and then WoW and actually missed out on a lot that went on in the industry.
WoW took most of it's elements from AC2 not EQ.
Rift definately looks like it is shaping up to be nothing more than a wow clone.
If you want a good game for the sake of all that is holy buy gw2 when it comes out.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
As you seem to know nothing of art...color palettes are choice of colors when used together incertain ways are as significant as an artist's signature. Just the choice of brown alone for the color of dirt can be stolen from someone else. I have not looked at Rift's art, but to say that you can not copy someone's color style is pure ignorance and stupidity.
Tell me where i said that you cannot copy someone's color style
Explain how it is nothing more than a WoW 'clone'. A clone would imply that it is an exact copy of it. Which is it obviously not. It's Rift: Planes of Telara not Rift Planes of Warcraft. Let me think, Rift has customizable classes, none of which are as cookie cutter as WoW. It has dynamic content, an interesting and extremely detailed world and most of all it's not called World of Warcraft. GW2 doesn't interest me. To me, it just isn't want I'm looking for in an MMO. I'm 14, I've played WoW for about 8 months, Aion for around 6 and Runes of Magic for about 8. WoW was good, but just too basic and the content gets so stale once you hit 80. I liked the elements in WoW and playing a game that expands off of what is good and accepted in most MMOs is what I want.
I want to play Rift, it looks good but is it right for me? I don't know that until it launches or I get to beta test it.
WoW is WoW, other games are other games... there may be some features in a game that is similar in concept or style to WoW, but it's never identical.
"The most beautiful experience we can have is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion that stands at the cradle of true art and true science. Whoever does not know it and can no longer wonder, no longer marvel, is as good as dead, and his eyes are dimmed."
- Albert Einstein
Remember a lot of the posters here are young and don't exactly have the English language down very well. Shameful really, considering English isn't even my first language.
With that said, a lot of them won't formulate their own thoughts and opinions. They'll just recycle something they saw that worked for some fool, somewhere. It's just like all the morons that think WoW is "instant gratification", or "too easy". These are just people that can't think for themselves and just go with the flow of what other morons say, regardless of how wrong they are.
WoW is the first MMO for millions of people. Naturally, they are going to compare everything to WoW like it was a pioneer, even though it's not.
Yeah that made LOL..
March on! - Lets Invade Pekopon
How can GW2 not interest you? Did you not see that epic boss fight during the demo's at gamescom. Those amazing graphics and animations? how can a game like rift interest you and not gw2... I'm dumbfounded.
Well, at least I know I don't have to worry about server shut downs while I am playing on my gw2 server... do you feel as safe with rift? You should really ask yourself that question.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
Not one bit! There's no way of knowing. Every knew MMO I try is another roll of the dice. I nerd over dark feeling games. Rift feels darker than GW2 and sticks to more of the classic gameplay. Don't get me wrong GW2 could be a load of fun but it's just not catching my eye the way Rift is.
I just quit WoW after a month of not really playing it. It just didn't have the right feel. It's hard to explain. It could be fun at times but the content got stale. Rift is looking up to be the dark fantasy mmo I've always wanted to play.
You prolly already know about this game then: http://www.darkdaysarecoming.com/
Anyhow both games look interesting to me. I think however in the long run I might spend more time on GW2
Such a blatant misuse of word clone. Do you even know what clone means? for Rift to be clone of WOW it has to be near identical copy of WOW which means very minor differences otherwise exactly the same in every other manner.
Please, think before you type.
90% of haters are begging for love. 10% just want a little attention -- Paulo Coelho
WoW-clone is a metaphor that states that this game has nothing innovational or improving to it compared to most other games, IMO.
Norn are Norn, we have no need of Signatures!
Its still a blatant misuse of the word because by that definition every MMO which has no innovation is WOW clone. Even though they have no similarity with WOW.
90% of haters are begging for love. 10% just want a little attention -- Paulo Coelho
Well honestly...I think Rift is a Guild Wars 2 clone because it took the Dynamic-esque system from GW2, whose dynamic event system was announced way back in 2007.
Norn are Norn, we have no need of Signatures!
I think WoW clone should be tossed in the garbage disposal. Using it as a 'metaphor' makes it misleading. WoW was not the first, the best, or the most innovative. It just so happens to be the biggest.
I really disagree with you. A game is not a 'clone' if they happen to use two similar elements. They're both MMOs! You don't complain that one MMO is copying another because they use swords or have a crafting system. Dynamic content is a good thing and has yet to really be showcased in ANY MMO. Since GW2 isn't out yet and neither is Rift, the Devs of Rift would not know how the devs at GW2 are exactly creating this system. Since we don't know, you can't say one is a copy of the other
This is where I think people see the term wow clone and read to much into it.
Most who use the term don't mean to imply that wow was the first, best or most innovative.
Even though wow took most of its mechanics and system design ideas from other mmos, it is still possible for a game to feel like it emulates wow and not EQ, AC2 or any of the other games wow took ideas from. All three of those games look and feel distinctly different in play and visual style aside from some minor similarities.
I don't think anyone is using the term clone to mean EXACT copy and that should be something that goes without saying. However there are games which do emulate wow. Either in art, mechanics or some other feature and as such to various degrees some games feel like wow in a different skin. Some games, not all.
It is possible for example to see a game that uses the same color pallet and artistic style as wow and feel the game uses "wow colors". It shouldn't have to be explained that someone did not mean wow invented those colors. Again, things that should go without needing an explaination. Much like when someone says "that teams uses Florida State University colors" no one reads that as if Florida State University created those colors.
This topic seems to be very out of touch with real world business which heavily follows the "immitate the leader" creation process. Just looking at phones right now is a decent example of this.
Obviously, if all these games were wow clones, they should do just as well eh? I mean, that's what clones are? Exact copys. Every detail is exactly the same as the first.
But yeah, someone calling colors a wow clone is pretty stupid. And the person posting that you can copy an art style, that was also a very curious thing to say in the context of Rift vs WoW.
If you compare Algenon or whatever, to WoW, I would agree the art style is extremely similar. Colors, items, landscape, trees and pretty much everything else look very, very similar.
Rift does not look anywhere near so close to WoW in terms of art style or colors or anything to that matter.
If anyone's not aware of Runes of Magic yet, it's probably the closest thing to WoW that's F2P. If you want a 'WoW clone' Runes of magic is the closest you're going to get with art style and just the way the game feels.
But yeah, WoW vs Rift, Rift is more graphically intense and has much more detail and doesn't seem 'bright and happy' which is how WoW can feel at times.
Is it also fun like WoW? lol
"The most beautiful experience we can have is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion that stands at the cradle of true art and true science. Whoever does not know it and can no longer wonder, no longer marvel, is as good as dead, and his eyes are dimmed."
- Albert Einstein
Okay, you don't like the word 'clone', let's try the word 'category'.
Category A.
Eve Online
Category B.
Anarchy Online
Category C.
Guild Wars
DDO
Age of Conan
Category D.
EQ
WoW
Runes of Magic
Allods
(insert more here)
Category E.
Fallen Earth
Category C has enough or more than enough games to fill it, and Category D runneth over. Ideally, the future will hold more games that fit into their own, unique category. However, with more fps hybrids, science fiction, post apocolyptic, and space warfare games looming on the horizon, I suspect other categories will continue to fill up... Which is still better than every game developer and its financers dropping new games into Category D. It's full up, people, we don't need any more.
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it's a pay to win basically.