Why are people placing so much emphasis on the font of all things?
At this early stage of development, the font of a game is trivial to change. And I'm pretty sure that if the developers get sufficient negative feedback about it, then they will change it. After they've done that they will have a coffee break, and then spend the rest of the day concentrating on more important stuff - like playability.
I know i find it quite strange to. I mean when I'm looking at new games i think the last thing im looking at is what the font looks like...
At the risk of sounding like an echo - I couldn't help but notice that the UI and combat looks nauseatingly similar to what I'm familiar with from WoW, EQ2, and to some extent WAR.
I also agree with another poster's sentiments about the Rift system...from what they've told us and what we've seen, it just spawns mobs that stand around until you kill them, then there's a boss. Not a whole lot that's "dynamic" about that. Random, sure.
I can't really judge this game just from these videos, but this just looks plain boring in my opinion.
I know it's a starting zone with lvl 1 spells and all, but the way the combat looks and all that, how everything's set up, it just looks like every generic fantasy MMO that's already been released, in my opinion.
Sadly, I don't think I'll be trying this, not until I hear plenty of positive reviews and a trial comes out for it, anyway.
I honestly hope this game doesn't fail, but it doesn't look like much competition for other MMOs coming out, imo.
I can't really see myself investing ton's of time into a game that has this type of combat mechanics, again....gonna have to pass the hype train on this one.
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I find it amusing that there were so many people raving how great Rift is on MMORPG.com without seeing any gameplay footage then they see the gameplay then precede to bash the game.
Stop the whining.. this game plays very nicely and the graphics look cool! AND DON'T FORGET!!!! ITS IN ALPHAA!!!!!!!!!
Persoanlly i hope all these morons go and play SW:TOR or GW2 (which could be very good) as im so tired of playing with these types of people in every mmo. They make for the very worst community and overall degrade the playing experience for everyone else.
Well now I have seen gameplay from every up comming mmo and I can honestly say that Tera looks much better than anything comming out.
Excuse me if I'm mistaken but isn't TERA a P2P mmo that also has a item shop?
I'm not sure about you but imo Guild Wars 2 definitely has a better value especially with the dynamic events, personal story, and action oriented combat included...
Have fun playing TERA I guess
Edit: Sorry about my post not having anything to do with RIFT.
Yeah so the gameplay videos... honestly... the way the pet runs is kind of weird.... Looks like he's constipated...
"Some people feel the rain. Others just get wet." -Bob Marley
I'm probably one of those people who just get wet.
Well now I have seen gameplay from every up comming mmo and I can honestly say that Tera looks much better than anything comming out.
Excuse me if I'm mistaken but isn't TERA a P2P mmo that also has a item shop?
I'm not sure about you but imo Guild Wars 2 definitely has a better value especially with the dynamic events, personal story, and action oriented combat included...
Video reminded me a lot of WAR. Didn't look that special to me but we'll see when it comes out.
I have noticed this as well. But you have to realize a number of Trion employees came from Mythic, so you're going to see some similarities. I'm actually glad, cause WAR did do some things right and had good ideas. I've got high hopes for this game myself.
I hope to god that people following this game don't hype it up because of graphics. We've all see it before in that department:
Aion
AoC
L2
EQ2
LoTRO
Vanguard
FE
And so many other mmos that think shiny polygons are freakin awesome! I mean yeah it's cool and all but it's nothing we haven't see before. I would have rather them to show how rifts and character customization are changing the way we play mmos. But I didn't get any of that from these videos. Just reminded me of a typical fantasy mmo with nice graphics. But so far 4 games stand out to offer something for a long time mmo player like myself. And hopefully we will get more info about the key features and less gameplay footage as we move along.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
Why are people placing so much emphasis on the font of all things?
At this early stage of development, the font of a game is trivial to change. And I'm pretty sure that if the developers get sufficient negative feedback about it, then they will change it. After they've done that they will have a coffee break, and then spend the rest of the day concentrating on more important stuff - like playability.
Simple. It is the nature of most MMO players to find ANYTHING wrong with any game but their own.
BTW, that bow looks like one from LOTRO. /sarcasm
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People can say what they want about any game and thats fine..
But everyone is trashing a game thats is still technically in alpha, thats is more polished in alpha than most games that have gone gold(go read all the reviews from gaming sites) and a ranger class in a newbie area at super low level.
Yeah i suppose its best to judge games by watching an alpha video from a newb area. <shrugs>
I hope to god that people following this game don't hype it up because of graphics. We've all see it before in that department:
Aion
AoC
L2
EQ2
LoTRO
Vanguard
FE
And so many other mmos that think shiny polygons are freakin awesome! I mean yeah it's cool and all but it's nothing we haven't see before. I would have rather them to show how rifts and character customization are changing the way we play mmos. But I didn't get any of that from these videos. Just reminded me of a typical fantasy mmo with nice graphics. But so far 4 games stand out to offer something for a long time mmo player like myself. And hopefully we will get more info about the key features and less gameplay footage as we move along.
Someone who seems to be a big fan of SWTOR shouldnt knock any other games graphics..lol
I hope to god that people following this game don't hype it up because of graphics. We've all see it before in that department:
Aion
AoC
L2
EQ2
LoTRO
Vanguard
FE
And so many other mmos that think shiny polygons are freakin awesome! I mean yeah it's cool and all but it's nothing we haven't see before. I would have rather them to show how rifts and character customization are changing the way we play mmos. But I didn't get any of that from these videos. Just reminded me of a typical fantasy mmo with nice graphics. But so far 4 games stand out to offer something for a long time mmo player like myself. And hopefully we will get more info about the key features and less gameplay footage as we move along.
Someone who seems to be a big fan of SWTOR shouldnt knock any other games graphics..lol
Apparently my point flew right over you head......leave it to the graphic junkies to think it's all about graphics....
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
I assume your point was that no game can stand on graphics alone, and they should spend more time hyping the gameplay than the graphics. I very much agree with you, there.
That said, a lot of what gets construed as "developer hype" for a game, especially around here, actually isn't. I've seen basic, pre-rendered initial game trailers with no actual gameplay involved get turned into "OMG THIS GAME IS GOING TO SUCK, THE GRAPHICS ARE TERRIBLE." Conversely, I've also seen a split-second of gameplay footage in a trailer be touted as the most awesome gameplay innovations since Pong.
In general, from what I've seen of Rift, Trion seems to hype the "visuals" more than the graphics. The difference is subtle, but even an 8-bit game can have cool visuals; it just means the visual CONCEPTS are awesome, regardless of how they're portrayed. And, from my perspective, as far as hype goes Trion's been rather quiet. A class writeup here, a screenshot there, but little in the way of concrete postings yet (which I prefer; fewer broken promises). If you notice, most of the so-called "dev hype" around here is taken with someone's digital camera at a convention.
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I know i find it quite strange to. I mean when I'm looking at new games i think the last thing im looking at is what the font looks like...
At the risk of sounding like an echo - I couldn't help but notice that the UI and combat looks nauseatingly similar to what I'm familiar with from WoW, EQ2, and to some extent WAR.
I also agree with another poster's sentiments about the Rift system...from what they've told us and what we've seen, it just spawns mobs that stand around until you kill them, then there's a boss. Not a whole lot that's "dynamic" about that. Random, sure.
I can't really judge this game just from these videos, but this just looks plain boring in my opinion.
I know it's a starting zone with lvl 1 spells and all, but the way the combat looks and all that, how everything's set up, it just looks like every generic fantasy MMO that's already been released, in my opinion.
Sadly, I don't think I'll be trying this, not until I hear plenty of positive reviews and a trial comes out for it, anyway.
I honestly hope this game doesn't fail, but it doesn't look like much competition for other MMOs coming out, imo.
I can't really see myself investing ton's of time into a game that has this type of combat mechanics, again....gonna have to pass the hype train on this one.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
Video reminded me a lot of WAR. Didn't look that special to me but we'll see when it comes out.
Make games you want to play.
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I find it amusing that there were so many people raving how great Rift is on MMORPG.com without seeing any gameplay footage then they see the gameplay then precede to bash the game.
People,
Stop the whining.. this game plays very nicely and the graphics look cool! AND DON'T FORGET!!!! ITS IN ALPHAA!!!!!!!!!
Looks like a dated MMO to me.
I noticed that too.. The animation on dual wielding isnt much better.
Persoanlly i hope all these morons go and play SW:TOR or GW2 (which could be very good) as im so tired of playing with these types of people in every mmo. They make for the very worst community and overall degrade the playing experience for everyone else.
Excuse me if I'm mistaken but isn't TERA a P2P mmo that also has a item shop?
I'm not sure about you but imo Guild Wars 2 definitely has a better value especially with the dynamic events, personal story, and action oriented combat included...
Have fun playing TERA I guess
Edit: Sorry about my post not having anything to do with RIFT.
Yeah so the gameplay videos... honestly... the way the pet runs is kind of weird.... Looks like he's constipated...
"Some people feel the rain. Others just get wet." -Bob Marley
I'm probably one of those people who just get wet.
No Item shop in TERA dude...
This is not a game.
You probably should of asked that when WoW made their game, not now long after they reused ideas.
I have noticed this as well. But you have to realize a number of Trion employees came from Mythic, so you're going to see some similarities. I'm actually glad, cause WAR did do some things right and had good ideas. I've got high hopes for this game myself.
I hope to god that people following this game don't hype it up because of graphics. We've all see it before in that department:
Aion
AoC
L2
EQ2
LoTRO
Vanguard
FE
And so many other mmos that think shiny polygons are freakin awesome! I mean yeah it's cool and all but it's nothing we haven't see before. I would have rather them to show how rifts and character customization are changing the way we play mmos. But I didn't get any of that from these videos. Just reminded me of a typical fantasy mmo with nice graphics. But so far 4 games stand out to offer something for a long time mmo player like myself. And hopefully we will get more info about the key features and less gameplay footage as we move along.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
Simple. It is the nature of most MMO players to find ANYTHING wrong with any game but their own.
BTW, that bow looks like one from LOTRO. /sarcasm
- Case: Thermaltake Kandalf Black Chassis
- CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz (OC'd 4.2GHz on Water Cooling)
- Memory: Mushkin 8Gb (4x 2Gb) DDR3 1600Mhz
- HDD: Dual Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 7200 RPM
- GFX: (2) XFX Radeon HD 5870 in CrossFire - New upgrade!
"I like wow, I like aion and I like AoC all for different reasons.....the later cause i get to see boobs, but still its a reason!!" - Sawlstone
a Ranger/Hunter class....
with a pet..
and a blunderbuss...
...sounds familiar.
You're absolutely right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDMfpbdbHWg
Sorry. Had to.
People can say what they want about any game and thats fine..
But everyone is trashing a game thats is still technically in alpha, thats is more polished in alpha than most games that have gone gold(go read all the reviews from gaming sites) and a ranger class in a newbie area at super low level.
Yeah i suppose its best to judge games by watching an alpha video from a newb area. <shrugs>
Someone who seems to be a big fan of SWTOR shouldnt knock any other games graphics..lol
Apparently my point flew right over you head......leave it to the graphic junkies to think it's all about graphics....
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
I assume your point was that no game can stand on graphics alone, and they should spend more time hyping the gameplay than the graphics. I very much agree with you, there.
That said, a lot of what gets construed as "developer hype" for a game, especially around here, actually isn't. I've seen basic, pre-rendered initial game trailers with no actual gameplay involved get turned into "OMG THIS GAME IS GOING TO SUCK, THE GRAPHICS ARE TERRIBLE." Conversely, I've also seen a split-second of gameplay footage in a trailer be touted as the most awesome gameplay innovations since Pong.
In general, from what I've seen of Rift, Trion seems to hype the "visuals" more than the graphics. The difference is subtle, but even an 8-bit game can have cool visuals; it just means the visual CONCEPTS are awesome, regardless of how they're portrayed. And, from my perspective, as far as hype goes Trion's been rather quiet. A class writeup here, a screenshot there, but little in the way of concrete postings yet (which I prefer; fewer broken promises). If you notice, most of the so-called "dev hype" around here is taken with someone's digital camera at a convention.
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This game is more polished in alpha then any game out there that is live atm.
Fine, we'll compromise. I'll get my way & you'll find a way to be okay with that.
/agree, first when i saw the trailer , and screenshots i wasn't liking at all but now that i saw this vid i'm hyped about this game ^^
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