This game is much more then combat even though the combat is its main feature. Only takes a few minutes to go to the official website and read up on the game. Saying the game is only combat and nonthing else is just stupid.
my problem with this no-targeting combat system is that it lets the devs think it's a fighting game and not an RPG game.
You do know that rpg has nothing to do with combat mechanics...right!!
You could not believe how hard I laughed.
If you've never played Lineage I or Lineage II, you will find Tera to be a harsh world.
The EQ clone games come from trying to emulate the Dungeons and Dragons dice roll system without the dice roll which in turns tries to emulate what would happen in a plausible setting. If you rolled 1d6 to hit a 20 there is a 1/6 chance you can hit about that damage which is kind of true in the sense that it seems to factor in strength, the wind, everything into that 1/6 chance. However if any of you Veteran gamers ever played NWN you know that dodging, blocking, safety rolls all happen by chance. Why not accept a game where instead of leaving it up to the computer, the player can take control of what D&D was trying to emulate in the first place?
As for 'a lot of content,' who knows until you try it.
Dodge and Block the same? Are you sure you play RPGs? Dodge = no damage and moves away from target, Block = reduced damage and sits in one spot. Those are 2 COMPLETELY different things. Also, just cause classes abilities do similar things does not mean they are shared.
Lol no. In Guild Wars block was exactly the same as 'dodge' although 'dodging' was more like tappity tap WASD to abuse the ranger's arrows.
One major issue I have with the article is the implication that standard MMO combat is exciting and not repetitive but this combat would become very repetitive.
One of the things that has kept Asheron's Call interesting for so long is the fact that it is not the standard MMO combat. Just like TERA is doing, in AC you can move out of the way of spells/arrows and also put objects between the caster/archer and yourself which will absorb the projectiles. That is what keeps combat interesting, having to pay attention when you're involved in bigger battles (most of the PvE combat in AC is lots of creatures at once, and rarely is PvP 1v1 on Darktide).
I find standard MMO combat aka EQ/WoW/Clones style, to be the most boring combat ever invented in all of history. Sure there may be some "options" but you quickly figure out the exact order of number presses to win. You also rarely have to move much as spells/arrows/swings auto track and it is all a dice roll if you are hit or not. That means you just watch tv and keep hitting 2 3 2 4 2 2 2 6 over and over until you fall asleep from the boredom. I don't see how anyone can claim standard MMOs combat is anything but insanely boring.
You'd be surprised how fresh having to constantly move out of the way to avoid things can be, does swinging/casting the same spells get repetitive just like the standard MMOs? Yes of course, but the combat itself always stays more exciting.
I've gotten a chance to play PvE combat in TERA. It is fun but the level of mobs I was fighting were early levels so they were easy. If the AI/PvE combat stays that easy through out the game (which I would doubt), PvE would certainly get boring. But I am sure at higher levels it is more exciting and I would be shocked if group PvP battles weren't very exciting.
I dunno... the PvP I saw from TERA was people dodging eachother all the time, waiting to get one of those huge knockdown hits off... didn't seem that intense...
I generally don't get the notion that "standard MMO combat" (as in EQ/WoW/...) is boring... sure you just need a set number of keypresses to defeat some random mob... in PvP it looks a bit different...
In WoW f.e. I used pretty much all 30-40 odd hotkeys in PvP... sure some a bit more situational than other but still used em... LotrO's Warden makes for some very actiony combat as well.... sure you just need to know 2 or 3 Gambits to get by but know them all, when to use them etc, and you can solo Nemesis Mobs of your lvl (boss mobs)
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I dont see how twitch aim can get reptitive. The satisfaction of a hit is awesome, just look at world of tanks! The only thing you do is left click and use WASD and that game has a bright future.
Also scantly clad chicks go along well with fluid movement, keep up the good work En masse.
The game seems made for simplistic console interfaces. It looks like fun, but it also looks like it would get very repetitive in the long term. I can see the dodging being a constant plus but repetitive attacks can only have a negative affect on long term enjoyment.
When it comes to graphics and scantily clad chicks Tera does have it in the bag, but there is more to a MMO than that.
I was on the fence about Tera. And then I saw the run animation for the female characters. Bent over with their asses in the air, and armor split open in the back so you can see their panties. lol
That is a red alert that the game doesn't have any substance, because if it was fun to play in the long term they wouldn't need to go that far into sexualizing female characters.
Wow, a company that has something that makes females look sexy ... how dare they! *sarcasm off* What kind of man would have a problem with this? Well, I guess you are from San Francisco.
The thing is I have friends from both genders. Male and female friends, and they both game. Why would I play a game that makes my female friends uncomfortable? Would they want to play a game with me where the female characters run bent over with their asses in the air, and armor split in the back to show panties? The really sad part is that is the only female run animation I have seen in the game lol.
This is actually the year 2010. They can't provide different animations for characters. Maybe some females want to choose that run animation lol. And most likely alot don't. Maybe alot of males want to play a female character with that run animation lol. Maybe some don't.
Personally I think it's almost pornographic and humiliating to females. Here is a warrior chick and she is wearing armor low enough to show cleavage and a split in the back to show her anus. And she's running with her butt higher than her head so the player can get a good view. o.O Tasteless.
Compare this to games like Dragon Age where there are some naked women, but there are also women in head to toe plate armor kicking ass just like the male characters with the same animations. The tasteless part in Tera to me is not providing the option at all.
Any player (male or female) who plays a any class of female character will see bared butt cheeks and more when the character runs, end of story. And you will like it! /sarcasm
This while you and your friend's opinion is not universally true, my wife wants to play a female castanic and she does love how they look in game, I know of other female gamers who also like to play similar chracters namely the dark elves in L2 , because your friends feel umconfortable by a game doesnt make it universally true or correct, if you feel shocked or dont agree then you shouldnt play it.
But i bet you dont really feel shocked at swinging blades at other ppl, chopping their heads, shooting at them, and watch them bleed in games but let us not take it too far such as showing a bit of skin and some panties. OH no! thats wayyy too much.
Are you saying traditional mmo's are not reptitive ?
All mmo's and and games in general are reptitive.
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I have tried some of the upcoming huge titles in beta, and they are boring. Nothing refreshing. Same old shit from 10+ years ago, with better graphics.
There is too little action, too much grind, too far between PvP fights.
My only hope is SW Tor. But thats not because of the PvP, but because of the story. I hope there is PvP though.
I'm done with MMORPGS for the moment, I want action RPGs. Like Diablo 3 and Torchlight 2.
But they are a year away. So I play League Of Legends in the meantime.
LoL got Instant PvP action, with 40 different champions to chose from, and the most broad customizations with 200 items, runes, and masteries.
I have tried some of the upcoming huge titles in beta, and they are boring. Nothing refreshing. Same old shit from 10+ years ago, with better graphics.
There is too little action, too much grind, too far between PvP fights.
My only hope is SW Tor. But thats not because of the PvP, but because of the story. I hope there is PvP though.
I'm done with MMORPGS for the moment, I want action RPGs. Like Diablo 3 and Torchlight 2.
But they are a year away. So I play League Of Legends in the meantime.
LoL got Instant PvP action, with 40 different champions to chose from, and the most broad customizations with 200 items, runes, and masteries.
I hope the game is a success just to bring a different playstyle to the genre and if you can make a bit more enjoyable with soft body "physics" so be it. Hell it may be a benefit in PVP jump around a bit more and get those little boys a bit distracted. it may make pvp a bit like a sing-a-long. Just watch the bouncing "ball". LOL
I was on the fence about Tera. And then I saw the run animation for the female characters. Bent over with their asses in the air, and armor split open in the back so you can see their panties. lol
That is a red alert that the game doesn't have any substance, because if it was fun to play in the long term they wouldn't need to go that far into sexualizing female characters.
Wow, a company that has something that makes females look sexy ... how dare they! *sarcasm off* What kind of man would have a problem with this? Well, I guess you are from San Francisco.
It's always hard for me to tell with this kind of post if the poster is actually joking. Let's assume not.
"What kind of man would have a problem with this?" Point 1: I guess any kind of man who doesn't need to get his kicks from sexualising everything, including pixels. Point 2: Why only address whether a man would have a problem, what about women who are tired of seeing their roles, even in an online game, sexualised.
"Well, I guess you are from San Franciso". I'm a woman, aged 53, from the UK and I agree absolutely with Normike.
I don't know why I am still surprised by narrow-minded ignorance, but I am.
No skill specialization and theres nothing unique except from combat.
I dont trust ncsoft nor ncsoft dev teams after aion's major fail.
This game has no connections with NC... it's 'En Masse' and indeed, Aion failed major.. but still has enough players..
Actually, En Masse is just the company that's bringing it here to the US, NOTthe company who is making the actual game. The game is infact being made by a bunch of old NCSoft guys, some of the same guys who helped make Lineage 2, but as far as I know, NOTpeeps behind Aion.
This game, TERA Online, was going to be Lineage 3, that is the fondation of L3. NCSoft, from what I understand, split it's huge Lineage 2 team up into 3. One part went to make Aion, another Lineage 3, and then a third to make Blade & Soul.
Then in a effort to just focus on Aion, for the time being, well into Lineage 3's development, NCSoft decided to suddenly pull the plug on the game. The guys behind L3 thought they had started something awesome with what they already had and thought it would be a shame to have it go to waist, just because NCSoft said to drop it. So they took what they had, without NCSoft's permission, made their own company, and turned what was the foundation of L3 into TERA Online.
This game is still one of my most want to play next gen MMOs. I'm pretty sure this game will have allot more going for it then just it's action game combat. Also, about the game feeling "limited" on skills/combos, they just added a bunch of new attacks to the game because beta testers said they'd like some more stuff to play around with. And they're adding more new moves soon.
I could be warong, the game may be like a blast of fun at first, but then get very stale after the first week or so. I've worry that Vindictus may be this way as well, as it has a very similar combat system. But the Korean version of the game just got a bunch of new cool stuff added to it also, to keep it fun, So I guess who really knows, until we get to play them ourselves...
Before I start I will go ahead and point out that im a Tera fanboy, but im simply going to point out the facts. Im not here to flame anyone. Also I have read every post here.
Well first I have to say if you have a problem with our scantaly clad Castanics then you obviously have never read a book (Thats as far as the flaming will go).
Everything in Tera is story line based, everything. En Mase is a large team of experienced writers, yes writers not game developers. Granted every single one have been in the video game industry for a long while.
As for the comment "combat being the only aspect of the game." im sure you have played mmos before, when has a mmo ever only had just combat?
As pointed out earlyer Tera will also have: Its fabled Political System, Lots of quest (not just grind quests), A vast magnificent world (which is larger than WoWs), Crafting (which is actually useful), Diverse classes and races (dispite what people have said so far), Guild Housing.
Im just going to stop here, I know how hard it is to read all this. Just go to the main site and complain on the official forums if you want.
to everyone saying that this is only combat, what are you an ass? did you even look into the game before banishing it to the giant pile of crap that the mmo world as built up. NO it is not just combat there is an emersive world filled with instances raids and story, there is pvp that desides which guild is top dog. They have announced a SKILL TREE. And on top of that there will be crafting and they added over 10 thousand quests to the game when people in alpha said there wasnt enough.
The mmo king has died he killed himself with to many expansions that made it easy for a 6 year old to rape him. RIP World of warcraft.
The only race that looks like that are CASTANICS! If your female friends have a problem with it then I got a simple answer to the problem. DON'T PLAY CASTANICS!! If you want to be a full plate female, play a different race! Did you know there are different races in this game? Did you know they dress different:? Did you know they run different? Cause it seems you didn't. Maybe if you quit being so easily offended over a game then maybe you could get more facts about it.
Uh, you have seen the layout of all the various armour costumes, right? The castanics may be the most blatant in some ways, but there's a lot of bare acreage even with the other (female) races' armour sets. And even in the recent action video that was released, there's some pretty obvious jiggle-physics going on.
I'll definitely be trying the game out, but it's a bit of a pet-peeve of mine that when developers decide to use eye-candy for their marketting, they seem unable to comprehend that a character can look absolutely jaw-dropping without resorting to wearing dental floss and postage stamps.
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Of course this game is going to fail, I dont have a doubt because all the keyboard prophets that post here said so.Just like all those other "games" that these keyboard prophets have called doom and gloom on claim have failed even though they still have a player base still add new content, updates and game fixes.NEVER doubt those KEYBOARD PROPHETS because if "they" dont like the product of course its bad and destined for the scrap pile(or maybe just their personal pile anyways)
The only race that looks like that are CASTANICS! If your female friends have a problem with it then I got a simple answer to the problem. DON'T PLAY CASTANICS!! If you want to be a full plate female, play a different race! Did you know there are different races in this game? Did you know they dress different:? Did you know they run different? Cause it seems you didn't. Maybe if you quit being so easily offended over a game then maybe you could get more facts about it.
Uh, you have seen the layout of all the various armour costumes, right? The castanics may be the most blatant in some ways, but there's a lot of bare acreage even with the other (female) races' armour sets. And even in the recent action video that was released, there's some pretty obvious jiggle-physics going on.
I'll definitely be trying the game out, but it's a bit of a pet-peeve of mine that when developers decide to use eye-candy for their marketting, they seem unable to comprehend that a character can look absolutely jaw-dropping without resorting to wearing dental floss and postage stamps.
Please send us your artistic renderings of these "jaw-dropping" designs that will change the MMO industry for female character design. Often I find, female design to lack the bad assness or be streamlinedness, like male armor.
Im gonna say if games fall into the category of Art then so do MMOs, you can criticize but you cant make the artist and publishers change their art to make it "acceptable".
Honestly its just the fucking human form, Its still the same if you put 2 inches of steel on top of the body.
You say its 'unnecessary' to reveal skin and if you look at those designs theres a lot of crap on the costums of the male design which are also 'unnecessary'. Hell we could probably play this game as floating orbs, really everything can become 'unnecessary'.
There is an element of fantasy in the MMO genre the guys are buff and square jawed. Or maybe in Terra’s case square Eurasian jawed. . Guy’s outfits often show of the chest and those rippling muscles. The gals are buxom and scantily clad.
But guys don’t come on here to complain about the fact that they are not all buff hunks do they? It’s only the women who come on to complain. Fresh from Gender Politics 101 they can’t see past the size of the fig leaf they wear in a MMO.
Loosen up, or do you want us all to have the average looks that you find in the real world too? MMO’s are populated by avatars that look like actors and models, perhaps we should all look very plain to satisfy this insistence that we bring the real world into a fantasy world.
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This game is much more then combat even though the combat is its main feature. Only takes a few minutes to go to the official website and read up on the game. Saying the game is only combat and nonthing else is just stupid.
cool story, bro
This game is all about politics, havent you heared of TERAs politic system?
You could not believe how hard I laughed.
If you've never played Lineage I or Lineage II, you will find Tera to be a harsh world.
The EQ clone games come from trying to emulate the Dungeons and Dragons dice roll system without the dice roll which in turns tries to emulate what would happen in a plausible setting. If you rolled 1d6 to hit a 20 there is a 1/6 chance you can hit about that damage which is kind of true in the sense that it seems to factor in strength, the wind, everything into that 1/6 chance. However if any of you Veteran gamers ever played NWN you know that dodging, blocking, safety rolls all happen by chance. Why not accept a game where instead of leaving it up to the computer, the player can take control of what D&D was trying to emulate in the first place?
As for 'a lot of content,' who knows until you try it.
Lol no. In Guild Wars block was exactly the same as 'dodge' although 'dodging' was more like tappity tap WASD to abuse the ranger's arrows.
I dunno... the PvP I saw from TERA was people dodging eachother all the time, waiting to get one of those huge knockdown hits off... didn't seem that intense...
I generally don't get the notion that "standard MMO combat" (as in EQ/WoW/...) is boring... sure you just need a set number of keypresses to defeat some random mob... in PvP it looks a bit different...
In WoW f.e. I used pretty much all 30-40 odd hotkeys in PvP... sure some a bit more situational than other but still used em... LotrO's Warden makes for some very actiony combat as well.... sure you just need to know 2 or 3 Gambits to get by but know them all, when to use them etc, and you can solo Nemesis Mobs of your lvl (boss mobs)
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I dont see how twitch aim can get reptitive. The satisfaction of a hit is awesome, just look at world of tanks! The only thing you do is left click and use WASD and that game has a bright future.
Also scantly clad chicks go along well with fluid movement, keep up the good work En masse.
The game seems made for simplistic console interfaces. It looks like fun, but it also looks like it would get very repetitive in the long term. I can see the dodging being a constant plus but repetitive attacks can only have a negative affect on long term enjoyment.
When it comes to graphics and scantily clad chicks Tera does have it in the bag, but there is more to a MMO than that.
This while you and your friend's opinion is not universally true, my wife wants to play a female castanic and she does love how they look in game, I know of other female gamers who also like to play similar chracters namely the dark elves in L2 , because your friends feel umconfortable by a game doesnt make it universally true or correct, if you feel shocked or dont agree then you shouldnt play it.
But i bet you dont really feel shocked at swinging blades at other ppl, chopping their heads, shooting at them, and watch them bleed in games but let us not take it too far such as showing a bit of skin and some panties. OH no! thats wayyy too much.
Are you saying traditional mmo's are not reptitive ?
All mmo's and and games in general are reptitive.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
I have tried some of the upcoming huge titles in beta, and they are boring. Nothing refreshing. Same old shit from 10+ years ago, with better graphics.
There is too little action, too much grind, too far between PvP fights.
My only hope is SW Tor. But thats not because of the PvP, but because of the story. I hope there is PvP though.
I'm done with MMORPGS for the moment, I want action RPGs. Like Diablo 3 and Torchlight 2.
But they are a year away. So I play League Of Legends in the meantime.
LoL got Instant PvP action, with 40 different champions to chose from, and the most broad customizations with 200 items, runes, and masteries.
And its free to play.
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If you want online action RPGs, you should look into Vindictus. It's a great game for being F2P.
I hope the game is a success just to bring a different playstyle to the genre and if you can make a bit more enjoyable with soft body "physics" so be it. Hell it may be a benefit in PVP jump around a bit more and get those little boys a bit distracted. it may make pvp a bit like a sing-a-long. Just watch the bouncing "ball". LOL
Yes I am pretty sure this game will crash and burn.
It's always hard for me to tell with this kind of post if the poster is actually joking. Let's assume not.
"What kind of man would have a problem with this?" Point 1: I guess any kind of man who doesn't need to get his kicks from sexualising everything, including pixels. Point 2: Why only address whether a man would have a problem, what about women who are tired of seeing their roles, even in an online game, sexualised.
"Well, I guess you are from San Franciso". I'm a woman, aged 53, from the UK and I agree absolutely with Normike.
I don't know why I am still surprised by narrow-minded ignorance, but I am.
This isn't NCSoft, these are the folks that got sued for stealing and using NCSoft's Lineage 3 source code.
Actually, En Masse is just the company that's bringing it here to the US, NOT the company who is making the actual game. The game is infact being made by a bunch of old NCSoft guys, some of the same guys who helped make Lineage 2, but as far as I know, NOT peeps behind Aion.
This game, TERA Online, was going to be Lineage 3, that is the fondation of L3. NCSoft, from what I understand, split it's huge Lineage 2 team up into 3. One part went to make Aion, another Lineage 3, and then a third to make Blade & Soul.
Then in a effort to just focus on Aion, for the time being, well into Lineage 3's development, NCSoft decided to suddenly pull the plug on the game. The guys behind L3 thought they had started something awesome with what they already had and thought it would be a shame to have it go to waist, just because NCSoft said to drop it. So they took what they had, without NCSoft's permission, made their own company, and turned what was the foundation of L3 into TERA Online.
This game is still one of my most want to play next gen MMOs. I'm pretty sure this game will have allot more going for it then just it's action game combat. Also, about the game feeling "limited" on skills/combos, they just added a bunch of new attacks to the game because beta testers said they'd like some more stuff to play around with. And they're adding more new moves soon.
I could be warong, the game may be like a blast of fun at first, but then get very stale after the first week or so. I've worry that Vindictus may be this way as well, as it has a very similar combat system. But the Korean version of the game just got a bunch of new cool stuff added to it also, to keep it fun, So I guess who really knows, until we get to play them ourselves...
Before I start I will go ahead and point out that im a Tera fanboy, but im simply going to point out the facts. Im not here to flame anyone. Also I have read every post here.
Well first I have to say if you have a problem with our scantaly clad Castanics then you obviously have never read a book (Thats as far as the flaming will go).
Everything in Tera is story line based, everything. En Mase is a large team of experienced writers, yes writers not game developers. Granted every single one have been in the video game industry for a long while.
As for the comment "combat being the only aspect of the game." im sure you have played mmos before, when has a mmo ever only had just combat?
As pointed out earlyer Tera will also have: Its fabled Political System, Lots of quest (not just grind quests), A vast magnificent world (which is larger than WoWs), Crafting (which is actually useful), Diverse classes and races (dispite what people have said so far), Guild Housing.
Im just going to stop here, I know how hard it is to read all this. Just go to the main site and complain on the official forums if you want.
to everyone saying that this is only combat, what are you an ass? did you even look into the game before banishing it to the giant pile of crap that the mmo world as built up. NO it is not just combat there is an emersive world filled with instances raids and story, there is pvp that desides which guild is top dog. They have announced a SKILL TREE. And on top of that there will be crafting and they added over 10 thousand quests to the game when people in alpha said there wasnt enough.
The mmo king has died he killed himself with to many expansions that made it easy for a 6 year old to rape him. RIP World of warcraft.
Uh, you have seen the layout of all the various armour costumes, right? The castanics may be the most blatant in some ways, but there's a lot of bare acreage even with the other (female) races' armour sets. And even in the recent action video that was released, there's some pretty obvious jiggle-physics going on.
I'll definitely be trying the game out, but it's a bit of a pet-peeve of mine that when developers decide to use eye-candy for their marketting, they seem unable to comprehend that a character can look absolutely jaw-dropping without resorting to wearing dental floss and postage stamps.
A Modest Proposal for MMORPGs:
That the means of progression would not be mutually exclusive from the means of enjoyment.
Of course this game is going to fail, I dont have a doubt because all the keyboard prophets that post here said so.Just like all those other "games" that these keyboard prophets have called doom and gloom on claim have failed even though they still have a player base still add new content, updates and game fixes.NEVER doubt those KEYBOARD PROPHETS because if "they" dont like the product of course its bad and destined for the scrap pile(or maybe just their personal pile anyways)
Please send us your artistic renderings of these "jaw-dropping" designs that will change the MMO industry for female character design. Often I find, female design to lack the bad assness or be streamlinedness, like male armor.
Im gonna say if games fall into the category of Art then so do MMOs, you can criticize but you cant make the artist and publishers change their art to make it "acceptable".
Honestly its just the fucking human form, Its still the same if you put 2 inches of steel on top of the body.
You say its 'unnecessary' to reveal skin and if you look at those designs theres a lot of crap on the costums of the male design which are also 'unnecessary'. Hell we could probably play this game as floating orbs, really everything can become 'unnecessary'.
This whole conversation is getting weird ... Just plain weird
There is an element of fantasy in the MMO genre the guys are buff and square jawed. Or maybe in Terra’s case square Eurasian jawed.
But guys don’t come on here to complain about the fact that they are not all buff hunks do they? It’s only the women who come on to complain. Fresh from Gender Politics 101 they can’t see past the size of the fig leaf they wear in a MMO.
Loosen up, or do you want us all to have the average looks that you find in the real world too? MMO’s are populated by avatars that look like actors and models, perhaps we should all look very plain to satisfy this insistence that we bring the real world into a fantasy world.