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ram and performance
adam_nox
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Ok, so I have 2gb of ram. Keep in mind that's 4x as much as the PS3 has, which this game is going to be released on at some point. Yet I have this suspicion that ram is my bottleneck.
Outside of ambient occlusion, I get no smoothness difference going from the absolute highest settings to the lowest. The game runs like barely playable crap no matter what settings I use. In towns it's like sub 15 fps, out of town it's probably around 30, with lots of dips.
So this topic, unique from others is to ask two questions to see if there's a trend. How much ram do you have, and how smooth is your gameplay?
God help them if they can't maintain a stable 30fps with 2gb of ram.
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have u tried turning off the extended drawing in ur config in the game? i did that and it runs a hell of alot smoother on my machine.
Maybe you're getting Ambient Occlusion confused with Anti-Aliasing.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Anti-aliasing.jpg
Ambient Occlusion is a shadow effect, what I suggest is you turn off AA, lower the shadows, you might be able to keep AO, and change the resolution to native 1080p.
Are you sure your AA is completely off? even 2x can be a killer on any machine.
Are you talking about video memory or system memory... because if your system has only 2GB of ram, I'm going to guess that you don't have a decent video card or CPU, and alas, your system isn't good enough to run this game.
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Recommended system specs for playing on High resolution.
OS: Windows® 7 32bit / 64bit *
Processor: Intel® Core™ i7 (2.66GHz) or faster
Memory: 4GB or more
Storage: Install: 15GB or more
Download: 6GB or more
Video: NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 460 with 768MB VRAM or equivalent
Sound: DirectSound compatible sound card (DirectX 9.0c or higher)
Internet: Broadband Internet connection
Resolution: 1280 x 720 or higher; 32bit
DirectX: DirectX 9.0c
Controls: Mouse, Keyboard, Gamepad
Granted these are not the minium system requirements but its the only thing I could find on their website for FFXIV.
Also you may have 2GB of ram, but other applications and your OS take up a good chunk of that. This game has always been designed for the future and not the past as far as systems are concerned.
You may have more ram then your PS3 but this is a PC client, they are coded differently and will be different clients. Hence why the delay on the PS3 release, they couldn't get it down to an acceptable size to release it the same time as the pc.
2GB this day in age unfortunately may not cut it anymore.
I currently have 12GB of ram, and a GTX 480. Game run's smoothe as silk on highest settings in populated area's. Only thing that affects me is the lag with pings ~200 ish due to server location.
http://www.finalfantasyxiv.com/media/recom/na/pc.html
thanks for being no help nor contributing (all but one person)
I have a gtx 260. I have a 6600 OC'd to 2.7ghz. Yes, 2gb of system ram, believe it or not there's been no games that require more than this yet that my PC doesn't eat for breakfast. 1 more gb would help, 2 more would not, as I have winxp still.
FSAA does not change my performance, neither does draw distance. I've tried it with everything set to lowest and highest, and the only thing that matters on my particular rig is ambient occlusion.
That's why I started this topic, as I suspect ram is the bottleneck, when supposedly this is going to be ported to a system with 512 MB of ram, a much lower end card than the one I have, and yet it will be expected to run at the same 720p resolution I'm trying to run the game on.
Buy some more Ram.
TBH 2 gigs of Ram is pretty laughable these days.
I also have issues whit this game , i also have a gtx260 / e7400 / 4gb ram/ win7x64 , the game runs terrible / looks terrible ... horrible fps and yes i have tried playing whit the settings whit no luck .
I even moved to a lower pop srv to see if that was the issue but no , the game still acts the same as in a higher pop srv.
My guess is the game just runs bad on these cards... or idk...
I have only 2gb ram,i havnt been too involved with pc specs last couple years,so i am not even sure what the speed or type of ram i have is.I think it is only DDR2 prolly around 600-800.I have a 6200 with the 8800 GTS vid card.
My PC is well under specs but i didn't really have much problem,there was some hitching once in awhile.
One thing for sure is to make sure everything that is not needed is turned off ,you don't need any anti virus playing the game,and can do a ctrl/alt/del>task manager to check what is actually running.
I did not notice any of the so called mouse lag,the only real issues i have is with the downloader/patcher and the game
.I gave up on my Razor mouse,i was really never very happy with it,i went back to a plain Jane cheap freebie/keyboard mouse using Microsoft drivers.
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2 GB of general system RAM in a PC is pretty much bare minimum for a Vista / 7 PC, and is pretty minimal even for Windows XP. Which means that attempting to run any game will result in poor performance as the system will continue to swap between memory and hard disk. Since FF XIV is pretty new, you are probably running into this as a big bottleneck.
I understand your point about the RAM comparison on a PS3, but a PS3 is dedicated to gaming...so the OS is rather minimal. Whereas a general purpose computer (Windows PC or Mac) has to account for a much wider variety of functionality and, as a result, is substantially larger. So it doesn't work well as a comparison.
If you have a 32-bit OS (likely for Windows XP), you'll want 4 GB (you can't use anything beyond about 3.5 GB)...and that will go a long ways towards helping all of your games (not specific to FF XIV, but most recent games as well). If you have a 64-bit OS (not sold a lot, but some people have WinXP 64 bit), I'd recommend considering going to 6 GB RAM which will give you additional headroom in case you are running multiple other programs in the background (I do this a lot...alt-tab is my friend). our video card is pretty good, so RAM is highly likely to be your issue.
Another factor to keep in mind is that most computer monitors (for the past decade or so) have higher resolution than 720p, so there is a lot more information to handle (in addition to being a general purpose PC). My several years old monitor is 1920x1200, exactly 2.5x as many pixels as 720p (which is the equivalent of 1280x720). As a result, potentially there is more model data in the PC version than will be in the PS3 version.
2GB of ram is not sufficient for gaming over the last year, Developers are less inclined to optimize games as its easier for us to splash out on upgrading.
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1gb extra could probably be worse depending on your setup, as you realy want to keep with matching pairs for the dual channel.
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Here's minimum requirements (at bottom of page). http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/#/about/game_info
2GB will run it but you won't be able to run at higher settings. Make sure you system meets all other hardware requirements for minimum requirements.
This game was definitely not made to be like WoW and other MMOs that cater to older equipment. You will need a higher level of hardware to play FFXIV. That's one of the things I love about it.