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This game is rubbish, i give up
ryukofdeath
Member Posts: 9
ive now spent more then 40 hours of my life just trying to play this game, and everysingle time i take one step forward. i have to stop and take 10 steps back. after getting to where i am the beta client just crashes everytime i hit the big ol PLAY button... im sick and tired... thanks for the the half fast made beta Square enix...
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You act like the games is years away from being released Yamin... it's releasing in 3 weeks. 'Sure hope they get these problems magically fixed by launch day or there are gonna be problems..
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first of all, there was the alpha testing, then there was a closed beta, and now were in open beta... the least i expect is to be able to actually play the game... besides, square enix is a HUGE and well respected company... if they beta even remotely represents the full game, i consider it a joke.
Yes i am aware they are 3 weeks away. But c'mon...during beta? if it's launch day he have all the rights to complain/whine/etc. And this isnt for this game only, other games too deserves the same treatment.
It's like you order food and when it almost done you decided it's rubbish....bleh.
While you are playing the game for free, and its beta, you have to expect issues. At the very least you cant complain about them.
My secons PC had the same prob until I updated Graphics drivers, was on Catalyst 10.7 - but nothing but 10.8 would do.
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There's more to the game than the "Play" button. I know it's 100% of your experience with the game at the moment, but seems a little harsh to declare the entire game as rubbish based on a menu item that doesn't work. You obviously really want to play the game if you were willing to spend 40 hours on getting the beta to work. You're probably better off waiting a few weeks, reading up on initial impressions about the retail version, in particular technical issues to see if anyone has the same issues you have now, and then buy it if you still want to play. 40 hours is a full work week. How much time is it worth wasting to save a few dollars on something that may or may not be an accurate impression of what the game will be like?
Could be something from your end too like old drivers like people mentioned or whatever.
I never crashed when I tried the game and the only time I crashed was when I made the game launch by steam so I could popup the chat window to talk to a friend while playing but it crashed the game twice so I removed it from steam.
That might be true but issues like this can be hard to fix and it is actually a bit upsetting that they moved the game into the open beta with an issue like this.
It is more like you order food and the guy pull it out of the owen too early.
I second the OP. This game doesn't deserve my time, even if it would be free.
It just crashed again, with lags of MINIMUM 5 seconds, up to 20 seconds, 3 weeks before launch.
NEEEEXT!!!
This is a beta. The core mechanics are in the beta. Those mechanics are not fun.
I don't understand people with "it's beta" attitude.
These alpha/ beta phases are for bug reporting and testing and FIXING. So if we are at open beta (usually the last phase before release) they should at least have a correct game with 95% of the features working and 95% of the bugs fixed. Not something crashing like Windows Millenium on you.
Mind you, I don't know how many people are encountering the problem, but I heard quite a few people complaining about it.
edit: this is not targeted at the post above me, but to the first reply to the OP.
I don't understand people with the "I don't care if it's beta, I expect it to be working at least as well as if it were retail" attitude. There have been people with that attitude since Alpha stage, incidentally.
Even if it's Open Beta.. it's still Beta, and finding bugs and other issues is still part of the process.. whether people want to accept it or not.
You know what? Retail games crash too. All the time. Games that have been live for *years* will still crash. Are we going to carry on like "those developers don't know what's going on" because of that? I couldn't get The Witcher to run consistently on my system when I first got it. I looked for patches, I tried compatibility mode, etc.. nothing worked. Then I looked it up, found out the issue was with my graphics settings and, voila.. the game ran perfect. Did I go calling the game rubbish because it was crashing on me constantly? Nope. I had the common-sense to realize the game was playing just fine, if not at least far more stably, for many others and that the problem was most likely on my end. And that was precisely the case.
Is FFXIV crashing? Yep. For a lot of people. And people are talking about it. And SE realizes it. And they are working on it.
Myself and two of my friends in OB have crashed several times... Mostly when in highly congested areas (in town, around Aetheryte crystals, etc), but a few times in less congested areas. However, last night we all played for about 4 hours - uninterrupted... not a single crash the entire time.
Sounds to me like there's a compatibility issue on the OB's end which, hate to say it, SE can not be "expected to know about". The best they can be expected to do - just as with any developer - is to make the game playable and stable on as many possible configurations as they can, within reason. If one person - out of the 10s of thousands currenly in Beta - can't get the game to run, then that's very unfortunate and hopefully the issue is ironed out sooner than later. But to come here and declare the entire game is "rubbish" because of it, is completely ridiculous.. and more than a little melodramatic.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
What he said. One thing people who say "LOL RELEASE IS SOON", don't think about is, as you add more and more and more people to a game, more and more and more different types of computers, specs, software installed and even antivirus that each person has, that can EASILY create HUGE problems.
Crashes are often related to the computer and how it interacts with the program. Now, if you had meant that the quests were bad, the combat boring, or something like that, it would be a different story.
Everything you explain in your first paragraph also happens to be precisely why they have open betas... to stress test the system and see how it performs under heavy load so they can make adjustments and correct it.
You can't "simulate" the kind of load 10s of thousands of live players with almost as many different computer configurations will have on your system. You have to do it live. And that's what we're doing. And it's crashing... and so SE is working to stabilize it.
But of course, again, there are some who want Beta, in any stage, to be a fully complete and polished playable version of the retail game that they get to play for free. They won't tolerate any issues, no matter what the circumstance.. because *they deserve better!!* That's always been the case, and always will be.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
let me expand on the ordering food example.
It's like you order food and see the cook put dog crap in it as he is cooking. You know you will not eat it. ( that's what bata is 3 weeks before launch )
These issues were plaguing people though CB and presumably CA. I was fortunate enough to have no problems other than their atrocious downloader, but there were many, many who did and dutifully reported these in the SE forums.
While it's fair to remember this IS still in beta - and beta clients are notorious for not having the support of the full game engine - it's also fair for people to decide if their PC will play the retail version, especially considering for months now many have reported they can't and not all fixes have been implemented.
To the OP, I'd wait and see if the same problem is reported after release and either wait til it's fixed or give up on FF14 as a badly programmed rush job.
I will never understand people who think Open Beta = Free Preview. This is not what an OB is.
Open Beta is a final testing phase in the completion process. It's a chance for the devs to see how the game will deal with multiple configurations, and the heavy load of so many systems accessing it at the same time. It's a final stability run. It's not, however, a polished, finished, ready-to-sell version like the one you will have release day.
My advice is, if you don't understand what "Beta" means, then don't flame the devs and accuse them of putting out a poor product.
This game was not rushed, as it has been under development for years. I think, personally, it looks great. Yes there are some issues to be fixed, but look at some of the other games that have come out over the past few years, and the problems they had.
I have faith in SE. Final Fantasy XI was a great game, and XIV will be as well.
Besides, if you people who want to complain and QQ that the Open Beta is crappy and choopy and junk, then put in an applicaiton to SE and fix it yourself. I wish people would give up this sense of expectation and get a sense of realism instead and let the devs actually put out the finished product before they start shooting them down.
The witcher crashing on you was a setting in gfx problem, which didn't happen to many users. This time, many people are encountering this problem. Also, you cannot compare a single player game with an MMO such as FFIV. FF has lots of time to polish this game and had lots of people with varying pc configuration to check for those type of bugs.
If these problems are arising now, it's either they didn't pick the right pool of mixed configuration for CB or they fiddled with something that caused these crashes to happen just now.
Those games which crashes during retail launch, didn't really last long as a major mmo (some exceptions). Stability is a major part of any MMO.
If I'm paying for FFIV at lauch, I want a complete working game, not a bug riddled game that will get fixed when I'm halfway done through it.
Well, nowadays OB is both what you describe (software completion process, more precisely server stress test in the case of MMOs) and PR.
Because no matter what, people are going to look and form opinions based on what they see. At this point, marketing is already very much involved in the process.
So OB has to have a PR agenda, a way or another, and it starts with the small things--how easy and user friendly it is to obtain a key, download the client, etc. All those things, before you even play the game, are hints on the quality assurance at work in the company you're about to give money to. Surely if it's all messy and unsecured and obscure users wil think twice before giving their credit card number. So you're in, with OB, for a first contact with your customer base on the consuming side of things: better show your best colours.
Then there is the software (game) itself, and regardless of what they say, a game in OB is already very much finished. True, it would be stupid from a computing standpoint to assess the performance of the software at this point, from the user side. However most of the systems are implemented, and again regardless of them being fully disclosed or not at this point, it's fairly easy for experienced users to assess the validity of concepts and logics at work. (i could point to FF XIV backslash on UI but that would be too obvious, think of Vista for instance: all the negative comments were there before day 1).
OB is PR mostly because in the current "web 2.0 era", you can't filter the media via the press, you can't help people spreading words very quickly very far.
Thus OB is a two-headed beast: it's development from the studio side, and marketing to the users.
Sorry but Open Beta is a chance to mass test their hardware. Only minor changes to the program will happen at that point unless a game breaker is discovered. Usually there is only a few months between OB and release. They can not do a lot of work in this time unless they delay a game. So yes in a way OB is a free trial.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to say it again. You are aware there are MANY things which can and probably are causing the things your blaming on the game client and the servers on the far end right?
Myself, and 5 of my coworkers are in the Open Beta now, each of us has logged close to 40 hours of game play or more. And not a single one of us is having any of the problems you seem to be having. So what does that say, that it MUST be the game client...hmmm nope...MUST be the servers...again NOPE...most likely your PC or your ISP. I know, I know, your all going to come back and yell and kick and scream and say its not your end, but how else do you explain that NOT EVERYONE HAS THE SAME PROBLEM YOU DO?? No, not EVERYONE does. SOME of you do yes, but if the client was bugged, everyone would have it, like the software mouse...well that one can be MUCH better if your graphics card and game configuration settings match.
The lag....yeah the lag.... I stand at the aether stone with over 50 people near me, my graphics settings accross the board turned to max, and not a single delay on my end. One of my coworkers does say he has some lag, but then again he is on DSL-lite, and what do you expect from 1.54 while running a stress test, Pandora streaming, and downloading a porn vid, come on.
Every person who has come on these very forums complaining about a lack of content has never looked for any in open beta. They are just doing what they seen in youtube vids and then running around thinking they are in other MMOs where mindlessly killing mobs will make your character a god overnight. It wont, so give up. The ones standing around 'thier spot' smart mouthing anyone who gets close, or running around hitting every pop withing seconds like its thier lifeblood, just stop already. Its an open beta, relax, wander a bit, see whats out there...you are NOT going to hit cap before they wipe your toons, your NOT going to find some mythical dungeon where purple armor drops that you can stand around and gloat about owning. Just play the game already. Stop trying to rush to 'see the content', your not going to get any secrets in beta that will make you the first to the 'end game' once it goes live. Seriously enough already.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
I can assure you SE does not look at it this way, which is what people are geting at. NA and other western countries might be under that impression now, but SE probably has a lot more benefit of the doubt from their Japanese fanbase and doesn't expect anything besides their actual PR to be PR.
I love snails.
I love every kinda snail.
I just want to hug them all, but I cant.
Cant hug every snail.
in reality what it is is this if u want to use food for a reference. u are poor a guy is cooking u free food and u go over hit him in back of head take the food eat it and keep kicking him. thats theperfect example of what most people are doing.
I lol'd because the cook, in my head, was japanese and very nice seeming and couldn't speak english.
Mean poor person,mean!
I love snails.
I love every kinda snail.
I just want to hug them all, but I cant.
Cant hug every snail.