So far, I am not getting the "MMO" part of this game. Seems more like KOTOR III with the same lame combat system as KOTOR.
Well, they have said many times that there are large open worlds where you can grab your buddies and just explore. That along with what seems like a nice addition to party play and there is your "mmo".
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I'm just learning that I'm going to have to swallow any expectations I had for this game, after nearly four years of being spoiled in LOTRO. They weren't going to have this game as polished nor as fully and deeply featured as I could have hoped. Maybe in a few years. Yet I'm still sensing that rather than make a really good MMO, they hired Bioware, and let Bioware make just another glorified console RPG. Maybe it will prove good for Role Playing, but it looks more and more like a rat maze. Just a big tunnel to run through to get to the cheese they give us.
Being the only viable Star Wars game out there, it will have to do. I am very sure that Bioware will be half miffed that people find ways to duck their content, or adjust gameplay to best accomedate the sandbox desires folks have. They have some serious lessons about real MMOs to learn.
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jesus people lol its low quality video, you not playing the game yourself, im sure in person its fluid as can be unless your PC is garbage. On the combat note, its lokes like EVERY other MMO out there, not just wow....people love to flame on this board dont they.....This game looks like its going to have the same level of quality and polish that wow does with added storyline, which is great. Wow may not be everyone's cup of tea, but its the most popular MMO in the world for a reason...I can only hope this game catches on in a similar fashion so we can look forward to lots of xpacs, if this game is going to be anything like the KOTOR games, it'll be more than good enough for me.
I love the people poo pooing on the story component on here, its been LONG coming that story and role play return to MMO's
"Well let me just quote the late-great Colonel Sanders, who said…’I’m too drunk to taste this chicken." - Ricky Bobby
Looks fun to me, but I would rather play the MMO that all the posters on this site are going to build.
With all this insight, clear sense of absolute right and wrong in game design, and vision in such abundance that others work is worth little more than a dismissive sentence or two, I'm sure all the supra-geniuses around here could whip something up in an afternoon or two that would redefine the genre.
^ This. Enough said.
Or as the HK-47-alike in the trailer said: "Interjection: Silence, meatbags!" : )
I liked the trailer, and I'd really like to know what happened to Revan (total KOTOR geek).
Appreciate that not everyone would feel the same way though.
lol well put, alot of the self entitled posters on this site might want to put thier skills where thier mouths are and show the world how brilliant they really are! yeah....right *chuckle* that'll happen.
"Well let me just quote the late-great Colonel Sanders, who said…’I’m too drunk to taste this chicken." - Ricky Bobby
Looks fun to me, but I would rather play the MMO that all the posters on this site are going to build.
With all this insight, clear sense of absolute right and wrong in game design, and vision in such abundance that others work is worth little more than a dismissive sentence or two, I'm sure all the supra-geniuses around here could whip something up in an afternoon or two that would redefine the genre.
lol. Nice.
Ah but then again, I guess this could be applied to any game, if you think about it. But their does seem to be a LOT of extra hate towards SWTOR and yet GW2 seems to lean towards the greatest game ever played....
All you people dissing this trailer for being "boring" don't seem to understand the point of it.
This was flat-out for KotOR fans. If you did not play KotOR, then you won't have any clue wth is going on.
I will say that the animations do need work, but they're reactive. That's mother-fracking awesome. Though I'm sure all the critics on this site know how difficult it is to make something that complicated look smooth, right?
Playing: *sigh* back to WoW -------- Waiting for: SW:TOR, APB, WoD --------- Played and loved: Eve and WoW -------- Played and hated: WoW:WotLK, Warhammer, every single F2P
On a totally different topic than the prior posts -
Was that Imperial Agent a Chiss? Chiss as a player race?
Hmm - does this jive with EU continuity? I thought that Chiss out in the "unknown regions" didn't even interact with the main galactic civilization until pre-clone wars era, maybe around 25 BBY.
I guess the premise here could be there was active contact with the Old Republic or old Sith Empire 3000 years earlier that was essentially broken off and "forgotten" in the intervening millennia - .... but I've digressed into total SW nerdica.
Meh, continuity. Who says a Gundark has to have 4 arms.
As Shatner said on SNL - "get a life!" (Jarring ST reference in SW thread... brain... seizing... must get to.... the internet.....)
A number of folks have made good points, so I will try not to repeat them, but I do have a few thoughts.
I think the graphics are passable and certainly along the lines of what the KOTOR games had. Yes, after half a decade the graphics should look much better, but as many folks noted this is probably not the final iteration of them. I would guess and others correct me if I am wrong, that the trailer is probably a couple weeks to months old before we see it.
As fas as no one moving in combat, I think some movement would be nice, but I will point out that the players were generally static as well. It is possible the enemy toons are reactive and move when the player moves. Maybe, maybe not. Although it is in line with most MMOs which have enemies be static.
I will freely admit to being a story geek AND someone who enjoys the mysteries of the KOTOR games. When TOR first came out I scoured the forums for info on Revan and am glad to see his return, though I wonder if that is a SITH only quest? My importantly I am wondering about the Jedi Exile.
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well this just peaked my interest in Tor again.
The armor pieces looked awesome!
So far, I am not getting the "MMO" part of this game. Seems more like KOTOR III with the same lame combat system as KOTOR.
Let's party like it is 1863!
Well, they have said many times that there are large open worlds where you can grab your buddies and just explore. That along with what seems like a nice addition to party play and there is your "mmo".
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
I'm just learning that I'm going to have to swallow any expectations I had for this game, after nearly four years of being spoiled in LOTRO. They weren't going to have this game as polished nor as fully and deeply featured as I could have hoped. Maybe in a few years. Yet I'm still sensing that rather than make a really good MMO, they hired Bioware, and let Bioware make just another glorified console RPG. Maybe it will prove good for Role Playing, but it looks more and more like a rat maze. Just a big tunnel to run through to get to the cheese they give us.
Being the only viable Star Wars game out there, it will have to do. I am very sure that Bioware will be half miffed that people find ways to duck their content, or adjust gameplay to best accomedate the sandbox desires folks have. They have some serious lessons about real MMOs to learn.
Comstrike
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Founder, Leader, www.SonsOfNumenor.com LOTRO - SW.ToR (Yes, we are recruiting)
jesus people lol its low quality video, you not playing the game yourself, im sure in person its fluid as can be unless your PC is garbage. On the combat note, its lokes like EVERY other MMO out there, not just wow....people love to flame on this board dont they.....This game looks like its going to have the same level of quality and polish that wow does with added storyline, which is great. Wow may not be everyone's cup of tea, but its the most popular MMO in the world for a reason...I can only hope this game catches on in a similar fashion so we can look forward to lots of xpacs, if this game is going to be anything like the KOTOR games, it'll be more than good enough for me.
I love the people poo pooing on the story component on here, its been LONG coming that story and role play return to MMO's
lol well put, alot of the self entitled posters on this site might want to put thier skills where thier mouths are and show the world how brilliant they really are! yeah....right *chuckle* that'll happen.
I happen to love the KOTOR gameplay. Not ALL of us like the wow flow of a game.
lol. Nice.
Ah but then again, I guess this could be applied to any game, if you think about it. But their does seem to be a LOT of extra hate towards SWTOR and yet GW2 seems to lean towards the greatest game ever played....
I'm still cautiosly optimistic. I'm not thrilled with the combat animations so far, but there's still plenty of time to polish that.
All you people dissing this trailer for being "boring" don't seem to understand the point of it.
This was flat-out for KotOR fans. If you did not play KotOR, then you won't have any clue wth is going on.
I will say that the animations do need work, but they're reactive. That's mother-fracking awesome. Though I'm sure all the critics on this site know how difficult it is to make something that complicated look smooth, right?
Playing: *sigh* back to WoW
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Waiting for: SW:TOR, APB, WoD
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Played and loved: Eve and WoW
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Played and hated: WoW:WotLK, Warhammer, every single F2P
On a totally different topic than the prior posts -
Was that Imperial Agent a Chiss? Chiss as a player race?
Hmm - does this jive with EU continuity? I thought that Chiss out in the "unknown regions" didn't even interact with the main galactic civilization until pre-clone wars era, maybe around 25 BBY.
I guess the premise here could be there was active contact with the Old Republic or old Sith Empire 3000 years earlier that was essentially broken off and "forgotten" in the intervening millennia - .... but I've digressed into total SW nerdica.
Meh, continuity. Who says a Gundark has to have 4 arms.
As Shatner said on SNL - "get a life!" (Jarring ST reference in SW thread... brain... seizing... must get to.... the internet.....)
A number of folks have made good points, so I will try not to repeat them, but I do have a few thoughts.
I think the graphics are passable and certainly along the lines of what the KOTOR games had. Yes, after half a decade the graphics should look much better, but as many folks noted this is probably not the final iteration of them. I would guess and others correct me if I am wrong, that the trailer is probably a couple weeks to months old before we see it.
As fas as no one moving in combat, I think some movement would be nice, but I will point out that the players were generally static as well. It is possible the enemy toons are reactive and move when the player moves. Maybe, maybe not. Although it is in line with most MMOs which have enemies be static.
I will freely admit to being a story geek AND someone who enjoys the mysteries of the KOTOR games. When TOR first came out I scoured the forums for info on Revan and am glad to see his return, though I wonder if that is a SITH only quest? My importantly I am wondering about the Jedi Exile.
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