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Crafting and sucess rate ?
keneda
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Very easy question here , I was wondering if your sucess rate increase with attribute points , like strenght for Blacksmith and armorer , dext for fishing and stuff like that.
Thx for your time , I hope nobody allready ask the question.
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That's actually a good question. In FFXI it didnt, but it WAS based on the in game day of the week (Fire element crafts which best on Firesday) and there were rumors which direction you faced did too (NESW). In FFXIV not only do you have the elements and days, but also a Guardian diety and birth-month type thing, so that might have some effect. I wouldn't be surprised if stats did too, seeing how you can reset your stat and element points whenever you like.
I'm not sure about attributes, but I do know that wearing the right gear helps. Many pieces of worn gear have crafting bonuses built in.
My guy is a physical level 15 guy who spread his point aorund a whole lot, so he should have a pretty good attribute score compared to a character with low physical level but of similar crafting rank. As a rank 6 weaver, I still often flub rank 3-6 stuff, so I'm thinking attributes don't have a very heavy impact.
The biggest influence is crafting rank. Formerly impossible stuff becomes possible specifically when I gain a rank or two.
Another theory is the color of the items you are crafting at the time.Whether it is Red, Yellow, White or flashing/cycling between colors. Sometime if you wait it will change colors.
Also using crafting facilities helps quite a bit. Camps seem to be a great place to craft . You get a buff for whatever tools you have equipped when you talk to the NPC that controls the facilities.
I think that has to do with the instability if your crystal. If you push it really hard with rapid/bold synthesis your crystal gets increasingly unstable, and that seems to decrease your chance of success, increase durability eroded, or any other negative thing you might associate with instability. Waiting gives the crystal a chance to stabilize at the cost of some durability.
Although the main color will depend on the crystal/shard used. If you're using fire crystals it wil always be colored red. I'm referring more to the FX you'll see while you're woring on it - if it's throwing up sparks, that's instablity.
Interesting that you mentioned the part about the colors. I found this from FFXIVCORE which explains a bit of the crafting mechanics. I have yet to see anything about how ones attribute points effect the success rate if crafting.
"I have been reading these forums a lot this week and this question pops up a lot, I have seen a lot of people guessing how it works without trying it, I got my info directly from the Beta Test Site's game manual + leveling professions myself (I am currently level 14 carpenter, level 10 blacksmith).
White = high success rate
Yellow = Moderate Success
Red = Low Success
Flashy Colors = very low success can sometimes use the 'wait' command a few times to wait for it to change to a solid color
Sparks = Letting you know you are doing bad and it is nearly about to go unstable
Rings around it = Unstable can either wait a couple turns and hope it stabilizes or try and finish it in the next 1-2 turns before it explodes. (Some people are suggesting that while the element is unstable that there is a change to gain you largest inceases, I have not been able to test this so I am not sure if it is true)
Standard Synthesis = An average progress rate with lower penalties to durability with failures.
Rapid Synthesis = Perfect for people trying to just level crafting and not caring about quality. Gives large increase in progress with no increase in Quality.
Bold = Use this when you care about the quality of what you are making, it consumes a heavy amount of durability on a fail but will net you a large quality gain.
Waiting = If your element goes unstable or begins flashing you can wait 1-4 turns hoping it stabilizes or changes to a solid color. Doing more than 4 waits will murder your durability.
***Disclaimer***
Some believe the colors White, Red and Orange have different success from what I have posted, this may be the case but I have yet to see proof, we may all be wrong, SE have some pretty crazy off the wall ideas for ****.
***Tips***
1. Make sure in your trade skill's respective guild or in any of the camps you talk to an NPC and pay a 100-200 gil fee to use their crafting facilities, they will give you a buff that nets you +chance to success in y our crafting.
2. In Ul'Dah you can buy shirts and pants that give +2 Crafting each for a total of 4 (You only need these if you didn't start out as Disciple of the Hand as I think they get these on entering the game.
3. Google Search Cliff's Hardware Mouse Fix - And use the mouse for crafting it will REALLY speed up how fast you do craft and make it a lot more pleasant. "
Thx a lot for the explanation , I am starting to understand how it works , I didnt even pay attention to the colors ^^
I never noticed the blinking before either, thanks for that. Sure enough, the main halo color seems ot change too regardless of the crystal base.
Another thing I think I read on the main beta manual is that, the higher the quality rating, teh harder it is to proceed. So it's probably best to get the greater body of progress out of the way earlier in the crafting process with a bit of rapid synthesis.
I wanted to further add that some people when their at 80%-85% progress and greater than 50% durability will just finish the craft with pure bold systhesis.
And ye shall fail at 98%, and the crafting gods shall mock you from on high. After having had this happen to me personally many times, I'm afraid to do this now unless I've four times the durability than I do precentage left.
Another thing we haven't brought up here is choice of tool. I haven't ntoiced much difference between my main hand and my offhand, but it would make sense if certain tools are better for the job. For example, a spinning wheel to create yarn.
You can actually fail at 100% progress if your durability hits 0% on the same attempt....have many of those in my wasted bin already. I had one at 97% complete with 28% durability left and went for the Bold...FAILED...5% progress, 30% durabilty loss....botched synthesis!!! Sure I actually hit 102% complete but also hit 0% durability at the same time.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)