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This game ...just isnt fun?
thrallsfang
Member Posts: 16
and before some one says well its too hard for you, I played mmorpgs when they required skill and knowledge much more required than this game, I am just not finding the fun in this game yet, no one still seems to want to group for anything, no one talks, its like every one stands around like a computer bot, the quest are not fun, the combat while the abilities and spells look really good, is just fun, doesnt feel fluid.
Just not a fun game.
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Well I have to agree, but once you find one or 2 people to group with, you begin to have fun hunting. Regarding the social part of the game, yes, no one speak (since there is no global channel) and so, no one is use to look at the chat box.
I have asked several question in the middle of 20+ people, no one never answered :-(
Its Open Beta, nobody groups in open beta, and as for quests, youre apparently not looking at your journal or following your actual questline, just running Guild leves then complaining that they have no depth..maybe because they aren't supposed to?
Seriously, what is with all these people who judge the final game on beta crap then whine and complain that it isnt as in depth as good as a game that has 5 years of updates and fixes behind it? And its not FFXIV, its every freaking MMO out there nowadays, do people just go around complaining about every game for no better reason then because they can?
oh come on the game is 20 days from actual release how much of a major change are you expecting to happen over those 20 days? Its fair enough to judge the game now from what we see in open beta. Not like the game is still a couple months off.
Fun is relative. If you don't have fun, and can't make it fun for you then it probably just isn't the right game for you. Grouping and communicating and joining a guild definitely make it more fun, but that can be said of any game. Many people play a game like Darkfall and just don't have any fun, but many others play it and have the time of their lives. I wouldn't say any game just isn't fun in general, but maybe it just isn't for you.
At least you can say you played, and maybe you can't put your finger on it, but you just don't enjoy it. That is perfectly normal of any game with any random set of players.
You are also judging the community based on an Open Beta. That is where there will be a huge discrepancy. You have anyone that wants playing the game and using it as a free demo. They likely have no intention of grouping or chatting it up. At launch you have those commited to the game enough to at least buy it and play at which point the community will start to take shape.
I have a blast and have since CB2 and they have had plenty of drastic changes and patches. The game has come a very long way since then. I think it will take shape pretty quickly and be a great and unique MMORPG experience.
How many people grouped in eq1 at levels 1-5?
edit: and the question was how many, not who - so dont answer "i did".
Grouping won't make the lack of content go away.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
Get in a Linkshell that has voice comms. Get a good head set.
I will tell you this right now, I didn't type in FFXI and I won't be typing here. If my LS doesn't have voice comms, it's time to look for a new Linkshell. Open beta is mainly stress test time and for people to get a feel for the game before release for those of us that were not lucky enough to be in the closed beta. Remember, open beta is a small fraction of what the game will be on the 22nd.
Anyway, like I said. Find a linkshell with voice comms. Get a game controller. Have fun and just explore in open beta. Don't worry about taking stuff to 30, it all goes away and you have to start over on release anyway. The game begins on the 22nd for collector's edition folks and the 30th for regular version of the game. I'm willing to bet come the 30th you find a lot more of what you seek.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Seems like just a big grind to me and ive only reached level 9. As far as i can tell there is only one quest in each begining city aside from the levequests which are all very boring kill quests (combatant class) craft (crafter class) or gather (gatherer class) and that one real quest is just go there, come back, go somewhere else, come back now go somewhere else. It almost looks like they spent all their time on a story and cinematics then just filled in the blanks with grind. I must say i do enjoy the story line but running around killing mobs mindlessly never really appealed to me and thats all there is to do. Maybe im wrong and i missed something or maybe SE is wrong and they missed something, either way something is missing.
It is a bit disconcerting to nobody talking. The most I have seen is a few talking in /say in the adventurer's guild. But a few things are working against it right now. First, it is just a beta. Some people just want to try out their character solo and so ignore what is going on around them. Second, lots of people use controllers and so don't have their hands near the keyboard. Third, no general chat, they really want people to use linkshells and this is partly why you can be in multiple linkshells. Forth, there are no regional distintions and no language based servers. I am sure some of that will happen with time but they specifically choose to keep everyone mixed together. You be suprised how many times I have seen Japanese spoken. So not everyone might be understanding your request. Fifth, linkshells were the norm for FFXI and will probably be the same here. (from what I hear) To get into the full social aspect of the game you have to get into linkshells.
Not having any general, trade or worldwide chat is partly an immersion thing. The linkshells at least give a believable, lore based reason as to why people can communicate all around the world instantly. But I suspect they also serve another purpose. The worst trolls always seem to be in the general or trade chat type channels. They thrive off having an audience. With linkshells there is no default channel that they can use that has a wide audience where they can only be dealt with by GMs. With linkshells it all rests on the linkshell founder. You have to be invited and if you get out of line you can be kicked out. It becomes self policing. If you are in a linkshell that has an abuser in it and nobody will deal with him then you can simply leave. It does little good for an abuser to create a linkshell as he will not get many people in it and will likely loose even those quickly when he becomes annoying. I rather like the idea of no general chat but at the beginning when you are trying to meet new people it is hard. Best to check the forum for you server name at say ffxivcore or such to find a good linkshell or two.
As for the game being fun or not, I am slowly starting to have more an more fun with it. But it definitly favors the explorer. I think achievers will have less fun with this game in general. It definitly seems to be thin on content but SE has a habit of leaving things out of beta so as to save them for release. There should be much more for story line quests at release. That is just normal for them. SE has never had trouble producing content. Even so, it is strange for them to leave things out and not at least mention that they are doing so. I can really blame anyone for assuming that what we see now is what we get. That is the norm for betas now.
The biggest hold backs are still the lack of decent mouse support and the high bar for system requirements. I wouldn't blame anybody for waiting until the PS3 release and picking it up for that platform instead.
All die, so die well.
Welcome to beta?
Servers are always going to be global. Its intended to have Japanese players playing with everyone, this is why the game has a built in translator.
Games:
Currently playing:Nothing
Will play: Darkfall: Unholy Wars
Past games:
Guild Wars 2 - Xpiher Duminous
Xpiher's GW2
GW 1 - Xpiher Duminous
Darkfall - Xpiher Duminous (NA) retired
AoC - Xpiher (Tyranny) retired
Warhammer - Xpiher
You have 15 more days to use this excuse.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
Hmm and you maybe 15 more days to complain against this argumen? It is not like we discussed these things the last days all over again and move in circles...
/agree While I am sure that tons of other people will enjoy this game, it's just not for me.
Steam: Neph
If you are expecting a WoW type game then you won't like it for the most part. If you are expecting a FFXIV type game then you'll love it.
So if you're expecting a game full of features, look further, it's not here.
He who keeps his cool best wins.
All games are pretty featureless and stripped down at launch, and then built upon as the players play it. MMO's grow with players. Do you remember what all WoW had at launch? No BG's, no Arena, hardly an end game, hardly anything I would call a real feature. It was just a grind only through meaningless quests.
All we can ask is that devs release a solid core game with what they promise and then build on it constantly. The alternative is jamming in a bunch of unfinished and buggy features ala AoC and then fixing bugs for 2 years while your game dies.
They do have non-instanced dungeons. No idea if they have any special bosses with special drops inside of them. Either way, this counts as "content". Would not surprised if they needed groups to actually fully explore them.
Source: http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/15988-ffxiv-dungeons/
In either case, SquareEnix severely limited content in CB on purpose by only letting people to access one town instead of three like in OB. It is not unthinkable that they are severely limiting content in OB as well.
We'll know for sure during retail.
You'd think a chat channel that functions properly and actually allows other players to communicate in a MMO would be a obvious feature to add. These are the features I'm talking about, not content.
He who keeps his cool best wins.
If you are expecting a carnival like atmosphere with rainbow brite colors and childish games then this is the wrong game for someone.
His complaint was that noone communicates. Most beta's I've been in have been that way. The other major complaint that is caused by the beta is "what only like 10 quest in 1 story line section/no content". Unlike most OB, this one really is just a teaser, not the full game. And, just like FFXI, the bulk of the game will be done in story line arcs until they add more fluff.
Games:
Currently playing:Nothing
Will play: Darkfall: Unholy Wars
Past games:
Guild Wars 2 - Xpiher Duminous
Xpiher's GW2
GW 1 - Xpiher Duminous
Darkfall - Xpiher Duminous (NA) retired
AoC - Xpiher (Tyranny) retired
Warhammer - Xpiher
"Think about your argument before you post, you might just look a little less retarded afterwards."
I put text in the box, other people can see my text in the box, it works.
If you have a problem with the channel holding too much information that may overflow over chat, you can change what information is fed through it.
This game has a lot of godamn features, but I don't expect the rest to be shown, due to the fact that we're just helping with stress testing.
I agree with the op on this one, I found more things that were not fun, then fun, however, to each his own. Some will love it, and some will not.
Some like it because of the graphics, the lore, the complexity, etc...
Some will not like it because of the lack of direction, the clunky slow combat, the messy UI.
For those that like it, I'm real curious if you like it because you are a fan or just because there is nothing else out there or both or you like it for a reason that is not clear to many of us. I respect peoples opinions, so I would really like to know what you like about this game.
Are you kidding me? Seriously, read between the lines. Sure, you can put something into chat, but only people 5m away from you can see it, plus the UI makes this very awkward to use. They have no global chat system for players to communicate beyond a arms length.
He who keeps his cool best wins.
I can remember starting my Hume in Bastok and venturing outside. It was fun but kind of boring. I get the same feeling when I start playing this game. The thing that kept me going in FFXI is that there was some unspoken potential that remained dormant... almost begging me to find it. I'm glad I stuck that game out and I have a feeling the payoff for this one will be similar.