Newbie, help please?

linusfolke · September 2010

Hey everyone, im pretty much totally new to eve. I dont know much about it though i want to learn and start playing it. So i need some tipps and/or tricks would be kind. Also what race should i pick?

Im kinda in to pvping and such, i really dont like mining/crafting and such. Thanks for awnsers

DoktorTeufel · September 2010

Under the new character creation system, the only difference between the races is which frigate skill you begin the game with and that is unimportant. Therefore, choose the race, bloodline, career and gender you like the most.

As for tips getting started: Complete the tutorial, complete your race's Epic Arc, join the E-UNI public channel so you'll have a place to socialize and ask questions (the Rookie Help channel is far too swamped for this purpose), and read up on EVE via the official forum, stickied guides, and other EVE resources (check the stickies in this forum for some ideas).

I'll let others offer their advice about getting started in PvP.

TheHatter · September 2010

Originally posted by DoktorTeufel
Under the new character creation system, the only difference between the races is which frigate skill you begin the game with — and that is unimportant. Therefore, choose the race, bloodline, career and gender you like the most.

As for tips getting started: Complete the tutorial, complete your race's Epic Arc, join the E-UNI public channel so you'll have a place to socialize and ask questions (the Rookie Help channel is far too swamped for this purpose), and read up on EVE via the official forum, stickied guides, and other EVE resources (check the stickies in this forum for some ideas).

I'll let others offer their advice about getting started in PvP.

I spent some time in the Rookie Channel on a new character recently. Very few people there know anything about the game and usually dish out far more wrong information than good information. It's pretty much Fail and I can't see why CCP hasn't fixed it, seeing how important it is to the development of new players.

Newbies giving wrong information to other newbies, just isn't a good thing. They have a mod in there like every 2hrs and they don't even answer half the questions they should be answering. At best, they will pick a random question every 5-10min and answer it 5min after it's already been answered several times.

TLDR:

Don't ask questions in Rookie Channel, unless you can't figure out how to find and join other channels. Then just ask them how to do that and forget it's there.

DoktorTeufel · September 2010

In order to fix the Rookie Help system, CCP needs to split it into four separate channels and ensure that at least two knowledgeable staff members or volunteers are in each of them at all times.

TheHatter is right: Never use Rookie Help for anything, except possibly to see text flying by at improbable speeds, or for a good laugh at the terrible advice being given out there when you know what you're doing.

TheHatter · September 2010

Originally posted by DoktorTeufel
In order to fix the Rookie Help system, CCP needs to split it into four separate channels and ensure that at least two knowledgeable staff members or volunteers are in each of them at all times.

TheHatter is right: Never use Rookie Help for anything, except possibly to see text flying by at improbable speeds, or for a good laugh at the terrible advice being given out there when you know what you're doing.

I think they should actually pay the mods in the Rookie Channel. To me, it looks like they are being paid in ISK if they are being paid at all.

DoktorTeufel · September 2010

Originally posted by TheHatter

Originally posted by DoktorTeufel

In order to fix the Rookie Help system, CCP needs to split it into four separate channels and ensure that at least two knowledgeable staff members or volunteers are in each of them at all times.

TheHatter is right: Never use Rookie Help for anything, except possibly to see text flying by at improbable speeds, or for a good laugh at the terrible advice being given out there when you know what you're doing.

I think they should actually pay the mods in the Rookie Channel. To me, it looks like they are being paid in ISK if they are being paid at all.

I was thinking the exact same thing offer them a proper incentive to volunteer.

$5 an hour or 100m ISK/hour (they're basically the same thing) should do it. That's 800m ISK/hour inflating the economy, but that's a drop in the bucket compared to thousands of mission-runners generating ISK every hour of every day.

I'd say you could get some incredibly knowledgeable volunteers beating down the door to apply if you offered that much ISK.

miagisan · September 2010

get into a good corp. Player help is the best experience and best way to learn.

DoktorTeufel · September 2010

A good corp is essential, but you have to be patient and discriminating in order to locate one you can stick with. There are corps full of imbeciles, corps that exist mainly for the CEO to leech taxes from naïve rookies, and decent corps that simply won't be a good fit for you (this means all carebear corps since you're PvP-oriented).

Do not ever accept a random, unsolicited invitation to join a corporation (i.e., someone starts a convo with you and says, "hey u want a corp bro???"). Never meet someone in lowsec or nullsec carrying all your assets in a Badger until you've physically been accepted into the corporation and gotten to know the members a bit.

The most accessible option if you want to jump right into PvP is Red vs. Blue. The second most accessible option is Eve University second because it takes between two to four weeks to even see a recruitment officer, so patience is required (and persistence, once you're at the top of the queue).

The third option is to find a for-real pirate, nullsec, or wormhole corporation that will take you on as a rookie, either because they're rookie-friendly or because they like you enough to overlook your low skill point count.

You have to use caution here, too, because like any other corporation, some PvP corps are just terrible which is hard to judge if you're new and as with all corporations, some may simply be a bad fit for you.

MaGicBush · September 2010

Originally posted by DoktorTeufel
A good corp is essential, but you have to be patient and discriminating in order to locate one you can stick with. There are corps full of imbeciles, corps that exist mainly for the CEO to leech taxes from naïve rookies, and decent corps that simply won't be a good fit for you (this means all carebear corps since you're PvP-oriented).

Do not ever accept a random, unsolicited invitation to join a corporation (i.e., someone starts a convo with you and says, "hey u want a corp bro???"). Never meet someone in lowsec or nullsec carrying all your assets in a Badger until you've physically been accepted into the corporation and gotten to know the members a bit.

The most accessible option if you want to jump right into PvP is Red vs. Blue. The second most accessible option is Eve University — second because it takes between two to four weeks to even see a recruitment officer, so patience is required (and persistence, once you're at the top of the queue).

The third option is to find a for-real pirate, nullsec, or wormhole corporation that will take you on as a rookie, either because they're rookie-friendly or because they like you enough to overlook your low skill point count.

You have to use caution here, too, because like any other corporation, some PvP corps are just terrible — which is hard to judge if you're new — and as with all corporations, some may simply be a bad fit for you.

Have to agree nearly 100% with this post, personally though I would try to be patient and wait out to join the Eve university. I played a year ago and was able to get in within a day of joining Eve, but times have changed now and the wait is at least 2 weeks to get in. But honestly, Eve university is worth the wait. They teach everything you need to know about Eve, and if your absorbent will learn the in's and out's within a month or two's time while in the Uni. I recently resubbed after taking a break for a year, and rejoined the Uni within a few weeks doing missions and mining while waiting(and learning how to explore in the process). Recently got back and learned more about PvP than I could have spending month's in random corps in null or low sec honestly. PvP is a vital part of Eve if you want to have any fun(imho), so it's worth the wait regardless.

Mcgreag · September 2010

The rookie chat "mods" are members of ISD STAR (Interstellar Service Department - Support Team And Resources).

The ISD program is a volunteer program and have several departments. "Payment" consists of one free account but the main drive should be a desire to help.

STAR do for example Help and Rookie help moderation and personal greeting of new players.

Other departments are:
ECAID Equipment Certification and Anomaly Investigations Division - Or as it's more commonly refereed to "Bughunter". They mainly help filtering bugreports and test some new features.

IC Interstellar Correspondents. They write news articles about what happens in eve, focusing on player events.

M Mercury. They help with storyline and events.

YARR Yulai Archives & Record Repository Team. They edit and moderate the official eve wiki.

There have been other departmens in the past. Forum moderators used to be volunteers for example but now they are payed customer support people.

You can read more here: http://www.eveonline.com/isd.asp

DoktorTeufel · September 2010

Well, the main point here is that Rookie Help is in bad shape and needs to be redesigned. It can't accommodate all the new pilots properly; the text zooms by at a breakneck pace (there were over 2,800 people in there last I checked), and the ISD volunteers can't possibly answer every question, or even a majority of them.

Codenak · September 2010

Lots of info for the rookie pod pilot.

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/W/

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