newer GPUs are usually rated from 80-100 degrees celcius. There's no reason you need to be cranking 100% fan speed to drop below 60 celcius. I don't like going above 70-75, which I feel is still fairly low for max load under the stock cooler on my 5850.
newer GPUs are usually rated from 80-100 degrees celcius. There's no reason you need to be cranking 100% fan speed to drop below 60 celcius. I don't like going above 70-75, which I feel is still fairly low for max load under the stock cooler on my 5850.
Ehm what? My 480 GTX is famous for getting hot and 60 is the max it ever reached.
You should get some more fans in your box yourself, temperatures like that reduces the life of the card.
I got 3 fans in case added one the size of the front one or bigger on the back but didn't help much it puts out heat I can feel it with my hand but seems not enough fast =/
With 3 fans one should blow in and 2 out. If all 3 does the same thing you will loose some of the effect.
The 1 on the back blows air out of cpu/gpu and the side one helps it too then the front one blows inside the pc.
@thecrap well 65 degrees while idle is not great and when I play it goes up to 95 degrees on some game that uses decent/good graphics or overall performance.
@swing848 Most parts have been changed got a better cpu,motherboard and had to send twice the ram because they were faulty.
The gpu was tested and the shop owners didn't find problems the graphic card works it's its temperature that worries me.
@shankem The difference is I'm getting to 95 degrees when playing on most recent games (Bioshock 2, mount & blade warband, ffxiv, etc)
65 degrees would be better then what I have now.
/Back on thread
Recently I'm also getting an "error" saying nvidia 258.96 has stopped working but recovered successfully this happened once in warband and happens a lot during killing floor, it's the latest driver for my card.
Should I try go back to an earlier driver?
And the bad luck continues the shop owners are on sick leave or whatever it's called there and have to wait till wednesday (Date game launches...)
Does the thermal paste take much to dry? so I know how long I would have to leave it there.
Thanks guys all information possible is always welcome.
Blood, a few questions about your PC and where its located...
First, is your PC in an inclosed space (cabinet on a desk, under a desk, etc)?
Second, what is the average temp of the room its in? Is there decent airflow in that area?
Third, Do you smoke and if so do you smoke near your PC? Tar buildup can cause serious heat issues.
As Loke said, you might just need to redo the thermal paste on the GPU's heatsink (Clean off the old and put a thin layer of new on it - Something like Arctic Silver or the like)
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Blood, a few questions about your PC and where its located...
First, is your PC in an inclosed space (cabinet on a desk, under a desk, etc)?
Second, what is the average temp of the room its in? Is there decent airflow in that area?
Third, Do you smoke and if so do you smoke near your PC? Tar buildup can cause serious heat issues.
As Loke said, you might just need to redo the thermal paste on the GPU's heatsink (Clean off the old and put a thin layer of new on it - Something like Arctic Silver or the like)
Under a desk with a little stand that lifts it a little from ground.
Well I don't know exactly the temp of the room but I'm not feeling hot nor cold atm the pc is 64 degrees as I speak lol.
No don't smoke.
Yea but I don't know and won't try without knowing on how to put/remove paste so I'll have to wait for the shop owners were I built my pc to go back to work and ask their opinions about paste, etc.
Blood, a few questions about your PC and where its located...
First, is your PC in an inclosed space (cabinet on a desk, under a desk, etc)?
Second, what is the average temp of the room its in? Is there decent airflow in that area?
Third, Do you smoke and if so do you smoke near your PC? Tar buildup can cause serious heat issues.
As Loke said, you might just need to redo the thermal paste on the GPU's heatsink (Clean off the old and put a thin layer of new on it - Something like Arctic Silver or the like)
Under a desk with a little stand that lifts it a little from ground.
Well I don't know exactly the temp of the room but I'm not feeling hot nor cold atm the pc is 64 degrees as I speak lol.
No don't smoke.
Yea but I don't know and won't try without knowing on how to put/remove paste so I'll have to wait for the shop owners were I built my pc to go back to work and ask their opinions about paste, etc.
Removing the heatsink can sometimes be a pain in the ass, but aside from that applying new paste is fairly easy.
Once the heatsink is off the paste can be cleaned off using rubbing alcohol (best to use as it evaporates fast). Once the old paste is cleaned off you just add a small drop of the new paste to the GPU and use a credit card or something similar to thin it out over the surface of the GPU (just enough to cover the face of the GPU with a thin layer).
After that just pop the heatsink back on and put it back in the PC.
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
I would reconsider dust in GPU using a can of compressed air. Using just a cloth will not clean out the dust on most heat sinks. Compressed air will push all that stuff out. Just recently I cleaned the dust out of my heat sinks using compressed air and it dropped 20C.
I would also avoid changing the Heatsink on a GPU. There aren't alot of modern GPU heatsinks, and the tasks are slightly more involved then replacing the CPU heatsink. This is more true with the GPU memory. Considering your card is a midrange component, chances are a 3rd party heatsink will not be available. If the heat does cause the card to crash, then either nVidia or its OEM are liable as most have life time warranties.
You should also consider that nVidia has not really been that good at keeping temps down. Getting 50C out of a recent nVidia GPU is actually common, its when its over 90C that you have to worry.
Finally, probably the cheaper solution is to get a new video card if the temps are too much of a problem for you. The GTX250 posts performance numbers of the top range 4 generations ago. You can get the same performance today out of lower temp and power consuming cards for less then $100.
@swing848 Most parts have been changed got a better cpu,motherboard and had to send twice the ram because they were faulty.
The gpu was tested and the shop owners didn't find problems the graphic card works it's its temperature that worries me.
@shankem The difference is I'm getting to 95 degrees when playing on most recent games (Bioshock 2, mount & blade warband, ffxiv, etc)
65 degrees would be better then what I have now.
/Back on thread
Recently I'm also getting an "error" saying nvidia 258.96 has stopped working but recovered successfully this happened once in warband and happens a lot during killing floor, it's the latest driver for my card.
And the bad luck continues the shop owners are on sick leave or whatever it's called there and have to wait till wednesday (Date game launches...)
Does the thermal paste take much to dry? so I know how long I would have to leave it there.
Thanks guys all information possible is always welcome.
You have me a little confused here. By asking quote, "Does the thermal paste take much to dry? so I know how long I would have to leave it there", indicates to me that you, or someone, took the cooler off. If that is so, I hope you cleaned everything with compressed air before putting the video card back together.
When applied and the heat sink attached to the GPU, thermal paste does not "dry". Some compounds take up to 300 or so on and off [use cycles] before "curing", such as Arctic Silver 5. I suggest MX-2 by Arctic Cooling [or something of the same quality] because it requires no curing time and it does a much better job than Arctic Silver 5.
Do not apply too much compound, it will reduce the heat transfer from the GPU to the cooler. Thermal compound is used to fill tiny imperfections on and between the GPU and cooler; it fills tiny gaps so no air can be trapped. Air is a poor conductor of heat.
Nono I meant to know how long would it remain at the computer store since I never used paste.
It shouldnt be at the shop all taht long seeing as redoing thermal paste is like a 10 second job.
Depending on how busy the shop is, they might just do it right then and there and have you out the door 2 minutes later.
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
I got 3 fans in case added one the size of the front one or bigger on the back but didn't help much it puts out heat I can feel it with my hand but seems not enough fast =/
are they blowing the "cold air in" or blowing the hot air out? i remember when i added a fan to my computer my thinking was "i guess it should blow the cold air in" but it just seemed to heat up even more so i flipped it to pull the hot air out and it got alot cooler in there. i bought 3 extra fans for this new pc tho, it wasn't over heating i just figured the cooler the better and didn't want to run into any problems. my tower is HUGE tho i love it plenty of room in there, my old one was pretty packed in there and heated up a good bit. i'll never go back to a small tower again.
The air pressure is going to remain roughly constant inside the case, so just as much air must come in as goes out. If you have a lot more area for the air to go in than out, then going out is the bottleneck. The other way around is also true. You want about as much area for air to go in as to go out.
If you have enough fans to cover all case vents, then you want to put them all in the directions that you want air to flow. If not, then you either put case fans over all places where you want air to go in, or else all places where you want air to go out. Both is idea, but one or the other works, too.
The traditional orientation is to have fans blow air in the front and side and out the top and back. The side fan blows air right at the video card(s). Note that most power supplies have a fan that will blow air out of the case, and most cases position the power supply such that this blows air out the back of the case. This counts for airflow, too. Some video cards also have a vent that blows air out the back of the card and right out of the case, which can be nice for getting very hot air out of the case, but it doesn't move much air in total.
Some cases and video cards are designed such that the optimal airflow might be to have a huge side fan blow air in, right at the video cards, while all other fans blow air out. This really only makes sense if you've got video cards with center fans that blow air out both ends, so they're already pushing air toward the front of the case. There are also some more unusual setups, especially for more exotic cooling methods.
Nono I meant to know how long would it remain at the computer store since I never used paste.
It shouldnt be at the shop all taht long seeing as redoing thermal paste is like a 10 second job.
Depending on how busy the shop is, they might just do it right then and there and have you out the door 2 minutes later.
The thing is the shop is far so I have to go with car and I wouldn't want it to move and dry bad during the trip back to home.
Once again, heatsink compound does NOT dry. So, you have nothing to worry about in that regard.
EDIT:
The cooler will not move, it is BOLTED to the video card [PCB]. It will not go anywhere. You could drop it on the floor and kick it and the cooler would still be attached.
Intel Core i7 7700K, MB is Gigabyte Z270X-UD5 SSD x2, 4TB WD Black HHD, 32GB RAM, MSI GTX 980 Ti Lightning LE video card
Well the back one puts heat out, the side one puts air out I think but I barely feel the side one will have to check on it and the front one puts air inside and it's the hardest to clean because I never pulled out the front part of the case so it may not be properly clean.
One more thing to try is make sure you have the latest nvidia drivers, I seem to remember nvidia having one build that caused the same problem you are now having. I know this is probably not your problem but worth thinking about.
Well the back one puts heat out, the side one puts air out I think but I barely feel the side one will have to check on it and the front one puts air inside and it's the hardest to clean because I never pulled out the front part of the case so it may not be properly clean.
There's your problem. Most of the fans pulling air out, with only one pushing air in means that hardly any air goes in. And if hardly any goes in, then hardly any can come out. You should make the side fan blow air in.
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newer GPUs are usually rated from 80-100 degrees celcius. There's no reason you need to be cranking 100% fan speed to drop below 60 celcius. I don't like going above 70-75, which I feel is still fairly low for max load under the stock cooler on my 5850.
Ehm what? My 480 GTX is famous for getting hot and 60 is the max it ever reached.
You should get some more fans in your box yourself, temperatures like that reduces the life of the card.
A cool computer is a happy computer...
With 3 fans one should blow in and 2 out. If all 3 does the same thing you will loose some of the effect.
The 1 on the back blows air out of cpu/gpu and the side one helps it too then the front one blows inside the pc.
@thecrap well 65 degrees while idle is not great and when I play it goes up to 95 degrees on some game that uses decent/good graphics or overall performance.
@swing848 Most parts have been changed got a better cpu,motherboard and had to send twice the ram because they were faulty.
The gpu was tested and the shop owners didn't find problems the graphic card works it's its temperature that worries me.
@shankem The difference is I'm getting to 95 degrees when playing on most recent games (Bioshock 2, mount & blade warband, ffxiv, etc)
65 degrees would be better then what I have now.
/Back on thread
Recently I'm also getting an "error" saying nvidia 258.96 has stopped working but recovered successfully this happened once in warband and happens a lot during killing floor, it's the latest driver for my card.
Should I try go back to an earlier driver?
And the bad luck continues the shop owners are on sick leave or whatever it's called there and have to wait till wednesday (Date game launches...)
Does the thermal paste take much to dry? so I know how long I would have to leave it there.
Thanks guys all information possible is always welcome.
Blood, a few questions about your PC and where its located...
First, is your PC in an inclosed space (cabinet on a desk, under a desk, etc)?
Second, what is the average temp of the room its in? Is there decent airflow in that area?
Third, Do you smoke and if so do you smoke near your PC? Tar buildup can cause serious heat issues.
As Loke said, you might just need to redo the thermal paste on the GPU's heatsink (Clean off the old and put a thin layer of new on it - Something like Arctic Silver or the like)
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Under a desk with a little stand that lifts it a little from ground.
Well I don't know exactly the temp of the room but I'm not feeling hot nor cold atm the pc is 64 degrees as I speak lol.
No don't smoke.
Yea but I don't know and won't try without knowing on how to put/remove paste so I'll have to wait for the shop owners were I built my pc to go back to work and ask their opinions about paste, etc.
Removing the heatsink can sometimes be a pain in the ass, but aside from that applying new paste is fairly easy.
Once the heatsink is off the paste can be cleaned off using rubbing alcohol (best to use as it evaporates fast). Once the old paste is cleaned off you just add a small drop of the new paste to the GPU and use a credit card or something similar to thin it out over the surface of the GPU (just enough to cover the face of the GPU with a thin layer).
After that just pop the heatsink back on and put it back in the PC.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
I'll see if my brother maybe lends me 50-100 euros maybe I'll put one of those fans that goes on the gpu it should help lower temp plus paste.
[Edit]
Damn I can't find in any store here were I live that have vga coolers in their shops :S
I would reconsider dust in GPU using a can of compressed air. Using just a cloth will not clean out the dust on most heat sinks. Compressed air will push all that stuff out. Just recently I cleaned the dust out of my heat sinks using compressed air and it dropped 20C.
I would also avoid changing the Heatsink on a GPU. There aren't alot of modern GPU heatsinks, and the tasks are slightly more involved then replacing the CPU heatsink. This is more true with the GPU memory. Considering your card is a midrange component, chances are a 3rd party heatsink will not be available. If the heat does cause the card to crash, then either nVidia or its OEM are liable as most have life time warranties.
You should also consider that nVidia has not really been that good at keeping temps down. Getting 50C out of a recent nVidia GPU is actually common, its when its over 90C that you have to worry.
Finally, probably the cheaper solution is to get a new video card if the temps are too much of a problem for you. The GTX250 posts performance numbers of the top range 4 generations ago. You can get the same performance today out of lower temp and power consuming cards for less then $100.
i feel your pain, i have the GTX 260 and the things heats up like crazy. I am really getting annoyed with it. Definitely going ATI next.
You have me a little confused here. By asking quote, "Does the thermal paste take much to dry? so I know how long I would have to leave it there", indicates to me that you, or someone, took the cooler off. If that is so, I hope you cleaned everything with compressed air before putting the video card back together.
When applied and the heat sink attached to the GPU, thermal paste does not "dry". Some compounds take up to 300 or so on and off [use cycles] before "curing", such as Arctic Silver 5. I suggest MX-2 by Arctic Cooling [or something of the same quality] because it requires no curing time and it does a much better job than Arctic Silver 5.
Do not apply too much compound, it will reduce the heat transfer from the GPU to the cooler. Thermal compound is used to fill tiny imperfections on and between the GPU and cooler; it fills tiny gaps so no air can be trapped. Air is a poor conductor of heat.
Use just enough compound to fill those tiny gaps. Not much will be needed, follow instructions: http://www.arctic-cooling.com/downloads/installation/install_mx2_retail.pdf
EDIT: Link is now hot
Intel Core i7 7700K, MB is Gigabyte Z270X-UD5
SSD x2, 4TB WD Black HHD, 32GB RAM, MSI GTX 980 Ti Lightning LE video card
ArctiClean 1 and 2 is the best cleaner I have used. It has gone up in price over the past year. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100010&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-CPU+Thermal+Paste+/+Grease-_-Arctic+Silver-_-35100010
All about ArctiClean and how to use it. It is MUCH better than using alcohol.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arcticlean.htm
Intel Core i7 7700K, MB is Gigabyte Z270X-UD5
SSD x2, 4TB WD Black HHD, 32GB RAM, MSI GTX 980 Ti Lightning LE video card
Nono I meant to know how long would it remain at the computer store since I never used paste.
It shouldnt be at the shop all taht long seeing as redoing thermal paste is like a 10 second job.
Depending on how busy the shop is, they might just do it right then and there and have you out the door 2 minutes later.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
The thing is the shop is far so I have to go with car and I wouldn't want it to move and dry bad during the trip back to home.
are they blowing the "cold air in" or blowing the hot air out? i remember when i added a fan to my computer my thinking was "i guess it should blow the cold air in" but it just seemed to heat up even more so i flipped it to pull the hot air out and it got alot cooler in there. i bought 3 extra fans for this new pc tho, it wasn't over heating i just figured the cooler the better and didn't want to run into any problems. my tower is HUGE tho i love it plenty of room in there, my old one was pretty packed in there and heated up a good bit. i'll never go back to a small tower again.
The air pressure is going to remain roughly constant inside the case, so just as much air must come in as goes out. If you have a lot more area for the air to go in than out, then going out is the bottleneck. The other way around is also true. You want about as much area for air to go in as to go out.
If you have enough fans to cover all case vents, then you want to put them all in the directions that you want air to flow. If not, then you either put case fans over all places where you want air to go in, or else all places where you want air to go out. Both is idea, but one or the other works, too.
The traditional orientation is to have fans blow air in the front and side and out the top and back. The side fan blows air right at the video card(s). Note that most power supplies have a fan that will blow air out of the case, and most cases position the power supply such that this blows air out the back of the case. This counts for airflow, too. Some video cards also have a vent that blows air out the back of the card and right out of the case, which can be nice for getting very hot air out of the case, but it doesn't move much air in total.
Some cases and video cards are designed such that the optimal airflow might be to have a huge side fan blow air in, right at the video cards, while all other fans blow air out. This really only makes sense if you've got video cards with center fans that blow air out both ends, so they're already pushing air toward the front of the case. There are also some more unusual setups, especially for more exotic cooling methods.
Once again, heatsink compound does NOT dry. So, you have nothing to worry about in that regard.
EDIT:
The cooler will not move, it is BOLTED to the video card [PCB]. It will not go anywhere. You could drop it on the floor and kick it and the cooler would still be attached.
Intel Core i7 7700K, MB is Gigabyte Z270X-UD5
SSD x2, 4TB WD Black HHD, 32GB RAM, MSI GTX 980 Ti Lightning LE video card
Ah sweet thanks good to know.
@abyss610
Well the back one puts heat out, the side one puts air out I think but I barely feel the side one will have to check on it and the front one puts air inside and it's the hardest to clean because I never pulled out the front part of the case so it may not be properly clean.
Replace the GPU cooler, get one from artic cooling.
I'll see what I can do but can't find any store were I live that has vga coolers =/
One more thing to try is make sure you have the latest nvidia drivers, I seem to remember nvidia having one build that caused the same problem you are now having. I know this is probably not your problem but worth thinking about.
Have latest driver for gpu.
Tomorrow I should be taking it to were I bought it and I'll see what is their opinion about other measurements possible.
I formatted pc yesterday and temp gone down by 5 degrees not much but it's something hehe.
Now I'll need to try the paste thing and maybe a vga cooler.
I'll update you to tell you what happens :P
Update:
It seems the high temp is because of my room cause when testes at their store playing a game the temp was on 60 while here on 90s.
Meh damn hot room.
There's your problem. Most of the fans pulling air out, with only one pushing air in means that hardly any air goes in. And if hardly any goes in, then hardly any can come out. You should make the side fan blow air in.