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are blizzard behind hacked accounts???
jessian
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So there i am, a once proud owner of an account to this game since 26 july 2003. i have been alliance, horde and back and forth since my first level 60 warrior named Jessian on the deathwing server
now in 2010 i recieve an autobot email stating,
Account Name: ***************** Masked for security reasons
Reason for Closure: Terms of Use Violation -- Exploitative Activity: Use of Third Party Automation Software
This account was closed because one or more characters were identified using an unauthorized cheat program, also known as a "hack." These programs provide character benefits normally not achievable in the World of Warcraft. Such benefits include, but are not limited to, increased speed, teleportation, or running through walls/boundaries. Use of these unauthorized programs harm the game environment because they offer an unfair advantage over other players and supersede the intended limits of the game.
Now here is the kicker...
i have never bought gold from any seller.... i never went to get hacked or programs to do the above. now before anyone goes, " aye right, i dont believe you..."
well my account is been FROZEN since 2006... strange that. i did think of using a game pass 2 months ago but didnt sign up. Yet strangley Blizzard can claim i used a hack program yet didnt have an ACTIVE account...
How ??? did Blizzard hack " bypass" my account?
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Set your emails to full headers. It probably didn't really come from Blizzard.
I receive mails about my "accounts" from Blizzard, NCSoft.. and I don't have, and never had any of their MMO games.
They just got in the spam folder, and that's that. If you can't tell an official e-mail from a fake one, you DESERVE to get your account hacked.
It is funny to get the odd fake Blizzard email on an account that was never associated with my WoW account. Not sure how people end up treating the obviously fake emails as legit emails...
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Explorer: 87%, Killer: 67%, Achiever: 27%, Socializer: 20%
well the thing is, i went onto my account page via Blizzards website logged in, and the account is closed.
I have encountered a similar thing and have never replied to any of the fake emails(yes I did the header check) and the other day I log into battle net and low and behold my account has been banned LOL. I havent been playing for about 2 years , ok maybe a year and a half but its been over a year. I would find it funny if there is an increase in these happenings prior to launch of the expansion in order to get folks to buy those silly authenticators. they run what 7 bucks and if they got the whole player base to get one ,damn that a ton of cash. Now I dont think they would stoop to that but who knows in this day and age what some fool in a corner office who's idea of a pc game in minesweeper would think up to try and implement. Funny part is I was thinking about resubbing when the new patch went live with some of the class changes but that's looking like it isnt gonna happen now LOL. Looks like Ill play Vindictus for a while LOL
what i want to know is how can a hacker gain access through Blizzards servers and authentication, bypass my security question answer my email address rightly and still i have never been keylogged on my protected PC.
heres the email details i recieved...
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Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:28:04 -0700 (PDT)
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Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:28:03 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: <WoWaccountreviewEU@blizzard.com>
Received: from eu-smtp02.blizzard.com (eumx01.blizzard.com [80.239.168.88])
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Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:28:03 -0700 (PDT)
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Thread-Topic: World of Warcraft -- Account Closure Notification -- Exploitative Activity Found
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Subject: World of Warcraft -- Account Closure Notification -- Exploitative Activity Found
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 04:28:02 +0200
Message-ID: <9F531DA147B64D64A522E371331C90D1@eu.blizzard.net>
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This is a genuine email from Blizzard, so i honestly believe Blizzard are checking old Closed accounts with no activity and reopening them scamming my items off that character then created a bogus crap excuse to stop me gaining access to my legaly bought account.. If this is true then i will never purchase another game from them ever.
Why do people believe they need to click a giant glowing red button that says "hack" to be hacked?, compromissed websites running flash or scripts is enough. Run all the firewalls and anti-virus you like, you are not 100% safe. Shit happens.
Let's see...
Possibility 1:
A company that is doing well, built up carefully an awesome reputation over the years and making shitloads of money risks it all by hacking their users accounts for some small extra money. Likely or not?
Possibility 2:
WoW users often don't know how to handle sensitive information like their passwords. Many of them are new to online gaming, new to the internet or gaming in general. They fall on YouTube for "join cata beta: login on my site with your account" sams. They fall for ingame whispers such as "Billzard: you won an awesome mount! Go to site ...com and enter your account information to receive it!". They fall for "send me your legit unused gametime card code and I send you twice back", for "install this program to do triple damage" and for "your account got hacker. go to this site and enter your information to verify that it's you". They also give their account data to friends for "hey I can't participate in the raid today, can you play for me? I need the dkp". They use the same passwords for everything and never change them.
What's more likely. Possibility 1 or 2? Hmmm... Tough choice
Let's play Fallen Earth (blind, 300 episodes)
Let's play Guild Wars 2 (blind, 45 episodes)
So you know for sure you have never been keylogged? 100% on your mothers life? the truth is you could of been keylogged months ago through a flash script or some other means and the hacker only just got around to using your account.
And your PC is never protected.. just a little safer, no firewall or anti virus is 100% if you think they are then you probably have been to dodgy sites thinking you are safe.
Saying hackers are getting into blizzards servers is LOL!
Possibility 1:
A company that is doing well, built up carefully an awesome reputation over the years and making shitloads of money risks it all by hacking their users accounts for some small extra money. Likely or not?
Possibility 2:
WoW users often don't know how to handle sensitive information like their passwords. Many of them are new to online gaming, new to the internet or gaming in general. They fall on YouTube for "join cata beta: login on my site with your account" sams. They fall for ingame whispers such as "Billzard: you won an awesome mount! Go to site ...com and enter your account information to receive it!". They fall for "send me your legit unused gametime card code and I send you twice back", for "install this program to do triple damage" and for "your account got hacker. go to this site and enter your information to verify that it's you". They also give their account data to friends for "hey I can't participate in the raid today, can you play for me? I need the dkp". They use the same passwords for everything and never change them.
And here comes the fanbois reponses. not actually reading what i have written here, assuming i have been subbed to wow since 2003, yet i closed my account 2006. Yet you assume i am guilty because " Blizzard doesnt do things like this as they have Gazzlions of money ripped of players, for name changes, server moves, pets, vehicles and so forth...
Yet you presume i actually was hacked by a keylogger and this is my fault. Now, what i want you to do is PROVE without a shadow of a doubt i was hacked, my account was active up until i recieved this email.
As i can prove Otherwise via my bank details over the last 10 years.
Please prove blizzards servers were hacked or that blizzard are selling your details.
I get about 1 email every 2 weeks from Blizzard telling me my account is now suspended, deleted, transferred etc and none of these emails are actually from Blizzard. Here is an easy way to tell:
Open Outlook express inbox
Right click on the email in question
Select properties
Hit the details tab
In the from part of the text you see who really sent the email, it will be some random hotmail or gmail account.
I like everyone assuming the OP uses the same password / account name for everything and thus his password was stolen by a flash based application for a game he hasn't played in almost 5 years. Lot of assuming going on here.
^ This ^
I change my passwords regularly along with having regular malware & anti-virus sweeps using daily-updated software & a good firewall set up.
I still get emails from "Blizzard" constantly, along with a few other companies like "NCSoft" they're all fake, well hundreds were, I actually ended up ignoring a single real one and only realised when I saw the message ingame from Blizz.
It pays to be cynical.
I never said you got a keylogger. I just said that the chance for a successful company to risk all their work is pretty unlikely, compared to simply users not knowing what they are doing.
You got an email? So what? It's probably from someone pretending to be Blizzard.
I never use an authenticator or something similiar, and never had any account security problems. Am I lucky? Maybe. Or maybe because I don't fall for scams, or for emails from people pretending to be Blizzard.
Let's play Fallen Earth (blind, 300 episodes)
Let's play Guild Wars 2 (blind, 45 episodes)
if you bothered to read page 1, you will see the path the email TOOK to get to me and its orginiating path from Blizzard themselves.
if you acct became active without you knowing than you have a key logger on your computer, some sort of trojan, or a friend / guildie you gave your PW to in the past stole the account because they knew you weren't playing anymore.
What internet security do you use?
I've never really understood how someone could be so sure that their system is 100% safe? There's no such thing with todays technology. Also, I've never understood the thought process where an individual believes that their 2-3000 dollar system with store bought (or even well researched internet downloaded) spyware and anti-virus protection is more secure and/or less likely to be hacked than a multi-billion dollar company with a team of IT staff?
This is easy. It IS a fake email. There is NO BLIZZARD.NET. Their emails are Blizzard.COM.
Look at where it came from. The message ID line... It (the email) probably carries a trojan and when you log into your ACTUAL account to check, they get your goods.
what are you talking about? i have a keylogger on my PC do you fanboi not understand i have not been SUBBED since 2006
I have no other friends playing wow. i have never bought gold from websites run by blizzard.
No ones uploaded a trojan to my PC, now You prove i have been a victim of a trojan or keylogger attack, come on name the person you belive hacked my account.
I will tell you who, BLIZZARD have, thats who
Why would Blizzard need to hack into an account they own?
Revenue? Though I doubt it IS Blizzard...they get to sell another box set if his first account is permanently closed.
Like Gold buying...they catch you...perma-ban. If you want to play again...and most kids do...they get mom and dad's money and buy all the boxes so their ADHD selves become quiet again and don't pester parents...
absolute rubbish.. what is more than likely is you use the same password in another game and that was picked up by a keylogger, how many people use the same passwords for multiple things (not just games) its lazyness, its easy to blame blizzard, though i do think they are in part responsible by changing the login name to your email address - how many people have an email address thats used only for game accounts etc, so acquiring your login name is a piece of cake, and if you registered on a forum somewhere using that 'email' address, and were 'unwary) enough to use the same password (i could think of something else to call it, but unwary is being generous) then don't be too surprised if some crim somewhere takes a chance on that email address and password being a game account in WoW.. its why authenticators are such a necessity these days. and forums btw, are far easier to hack than online games, and far more likely to be, i seem to remember MMORPG got hacked some time back too.. maybe the ones doing the hacking were looking for possible WOW account names/passwords! how many other forums have been hacked, and the forum owners either didnt report it.. or didnt know about it.. Blizzard arent selling account details though, of that you can be very sure.
Dude...
Read my post. Your email is from Blizzard.NET. The email probably had a keylogger in it, so when you checked your account, you HAD to enter your info, correct?
NOW they might have your info... Check properties of ALL "BLIZZARD" email before opening it.
Thats actually the genius of the plan. No one would expect Blizzard to sell and/or purposly screw over players in order to sell more of their crap. If anything, they're playing on the fanboys stupidity, and their love for all garbage blizzard, because anything remotely suspicious like this would be immediately dismissed by the general public because "blizzards a big company, they never do anything wrong". Remember how they were going to make everyone post under their real name on their forums? Wouldnt be the first time they try to screw their playerbase. Especially when more profits are involved.
I was hacked much in the same way as OP. When they merged with battle.net my account had been inactive, and somehow "got lost" in their database, and I had to call them in order to get that sorted out. About a day or two later I got a LEGIT email from blizzard telling me my account had been closed due to hacking, much in the same way it happened to OP. So when I went to try and retrive it, I discovered someone put an authenticator on it, so I had to call blizzard again, explain to them the situation, and get that all sorted out. The strange thing is, this happened to a few of my other friends at the SAME TIME it happened to me. We all carefully monitor our systems as well. Dont assume everyone who uses the internet is some kind of internet. I, along with the other people I know, are extremely careful with our account information. I dont go throwing my passwords around all willy nilly like everyone else. I keep my system clean and keep a good watch on whats going on. I went to school for Network Security and im certified in it, so I have a pretty good idea whats going on with my network and system. Something had to have happened on their end, seeing as how thats the first time I've ever lost that password in my LIFE. I know quite a few other tech-savy people who watch their systems closely as well, and they've all been comprimised in the same way. Another recent case I remember was this happening to a guy I know at work. He got hacked very shortly after he reactivated his account, in the same way I, and everyone else I know has.
Another strange thing is, the people in the group I play with, who we all expected to get hacked, didnt. One guy we played with even bought gold from the chinese before, and was pretty sloppy with his information, yet his account never got comprimised. It seems either blizzards databases have been compromised in the past, and gold farmers are sniffing out old information that was availiable before the battle.net merge in order to gain access to accounts that havent been updated, or blizzard is giving this information out in order to promote the use of their authenticator. I wouldnt put the authenticator conspiracy past them either, especially how they tried to get me to buy one over the phone when one JUST SO HAPPENED to be falsely attached to my account. In either scenario though, blizzard wouldnt want any of that information getting out, so they'll never comment on either. If they did, they would be denying it, guaranteed.
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