Help about the Graphics

greenopela · April 2005

Sorry if it sounds a bit thick,, but im only trying the trial,, so no manuel

but, where is the anti-aliasing option???? iv looked in all the graphic options

It runs fine on my comuter but the graphics are just a bit jagged..

Can anyone help ??

sifa · April 2005

You have to set anti-aliansing in your Catalyst control center (not sure what its called for nvidia cards). The is no way to enble it within the video options in game.

It might be easier to just bump up the screen res to 1280 by 1020 or 1600 by 1200 if your monitor can support it.

Scaris · April 2005

In adittion to turning AA on in your video driver settings, you also need to create an EQ2.ini file in your Everquest II directory and in that file put this line:

r_aa_blit 1

Save it and load the game. Also make sure you don't have ANY blooming options on when you do this. They are an enviromental option that gives the sky a certain effect. Make sure they are all turned off.

Noubourne · April 2005

Bump screen reso and leave it off is my advice too.

Scaris · April 2005

Originally posted by Noubourne
Bump screen reso and leave it off is my advice too.

Why? It still looks horrible that way. Sorry, I happen to love good graphics and I also happen to hate good graphics that have something half way done about them, and this is it. I have my AA at 4x and I have no problems with performance related to the AA. I still get alittle jaggedness in some angles on certain textures but for the most part its gone. There are a ton of other things you can disable that are far less needed then AA to save resources if that is the issue.

Everquest II has fantastic graphics, but for some reason when the SWG graphics engine was developed, which is what EQ II uses, they chose blooming over AA. I have no idea why, thats like making a picasso on a cocktail napkin to me but that was their choice. Skip the blooming and the grass moving when you run through it and turn AA on. You will suffer more from increasing your screen res then you ever would from AA.

But to each their own, whatever your happy with. I will tell ya now though, turning it on makes a WORLD of difference in the game, you should try it if you haven't before you decide its not worth it.

greenopela · April 2005

Thanks for that ... i`ll try it out..

but the trial ran out .. but have ordered the full game... should be here soon ..

ta again

Scaris · April 2005

Anytime, that should completely get ya working. Although getting forceware to remember yoru custom profile settings is always a treat. One of these days Nvidia will actually fix all the failings in their configuration tool.

If you can't figure that part out let me know, I will help ya with it. If you are using an ATI card I have never done it with that, someone else may be able to help you though. Last I checked you couldnt do custom settings on a program basis, but I could be wrong.

Noubourne · April 2005

You can do custom settings now in ATI's control panel too.

It's not an Nvidia issue. EQ2 disabled it, that's why you have to make the change to the EQ2.ini. The Nvidia tool is working fine. EQ2 programmers disabled AA on purpose.

Higher resolutions often negate the need for AA. The higher of a resolution you use, the less "jaggies" you will see. I hardly notice them at all on 1280x1024, and I've booted to 1600x1200 and it looked even better, but I have a 9800 Pro and I have to turn too much stuff off to run at 1600x1200 smoothly. I also have to turn off cool effects like shadows and specular lighting to get AA to run at the same framerate as with AA turned off and all that other cool stuff turned on.

As a result, it's a wicked tradeoff for me between nice graphics and less jaggies. I'm taking the nice graphics. Really we agree about our preferences.

Newer video cards take less of a hit when enabling AA, but they still take a hit. If I had to choose between some cool effect (not flora, which I agree looks lame) and turning on AA to alleviate a few jaggies, I'll turn on the extra effect and cope. As a result I always leave AA off and turn up the shadows and other stuff instead.

Just my preference based on what works with my vid card. Other people may prefer to ditch jaggies rather than turn on shadows or specular lighting, high detail textures, or whatever. That's entirely a per-user preference, but that's my reasoning behind it.

Scaris · April 2005

You didn't understand what I was saying. I didn't say the problem was because of Nvidia. I was stating that building a custom profile for any application is a pain in the ass in Forceware. Your exe wont show in the list til you go in and add it and then cancel out and start over. As well as if you hit apply after doing the setup it defaults back to application controlled instead of your manual settings, you have to be sure to hit OK and close out completely and then go back in to add more.

I have had this problem with several computers with quite a few versions of Forceware so I know its not just my install.

And no I have to disagree, higher resolutions don't negate it out. I play on a 21 inch monitor that is REAL crisp and all increasing the rez does it makes the jagged edges sharper. EQ II has some very elaborate textures and some of the wierder ones have alot of "slag" to them, and the only way to get rid of most of it is with AA.

I am running with alot of shadows on, 4xAA and most of the neat little effects on including flora displacement and water splashes and ripples. The AA has never been a big issue on my performance, obviously if you are running an older card its going to have more issue with it though.

And actually I don't think EQ 2 ever had AA enabled, its the same engine SWG runs on and SWG doesn't have an AA setting either due to having blooming, that merely carried over to EQ 2, might be wrong, maybe they did try to get it working and couldn't for EQ II, but I haven't seen anything to indicate that so far.

And as for the ATI control panel, I know you can do custom controls, but I was unsure if you can do them per application, which is what I haven't seen. I did see in mine where I can globally force AA for anything I run to on, but not where I can just enable it for one application. I haven't dug in real deep on ATI though.

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