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So...feed back I have been viewing is rather "poor". But what does Japan think of it?
Joshua69
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So I gather that westerns dont care for it. But is it like "omg" over in Japan? or is this a total flop all around?
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however did you come to that conclusion? because a few people here whine and gripe 9 and probably not even brought the game so simply trolling)
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I came to that conclusion after reading multiple threads about various aspects of the game since beta keys were handed out with pre order. I came to that conclusion by reading what the Leve system is and how Job class' work( granted I only understand it all moderatly as I have no played it). Also through friends and word of mouth from people who have played beta that I personally know. My personall opinion, it needs some twinks. But ever MMO is like that at start
I think this is an interesting question. I tried this game in Open Beta and decided it wasn't for me. Seems like a good game but the combat and character controls are not what I enjoy in an MMO. I prefer to have more control over my character in a game I'm going to put countless hours into. The game does seem to be in line with other Final Fantasy titles though and well put together so I can imagine some people loving it.
Well, there are a TON of people playing. They are opening two new servers up right now.
I guess judging the game from seven forum posts on one site gives a pretty accurate picture of the game. Well I have no idea how Japan is receiving it (maybe you could research that yourself?) but I think it's pretty fun. Just remember a few things:
the game is hard, it won't really hold your hand as to where to go and you'll actually have to read quests to know what to do
No more software mouse, anyone who says "Oh man the mouse is laggy" is lying/trolling
Crafting is hard but rewarding, for the first oh hour or so you'll be scratching you head as to how the system works, but once you get the idea it's interesting.
The quest system is weird, but easy to figure out
That's about all I can think of.
Originally posted by GTwander:
How are you an MMO? Or any of us for that matter?
I say we strike all users from the site for not being MMOs.
If the servers would not be down i would play instead of reading a forum bcs the game is great even its only the start and its not matured yet.
So you get a wrong picture of it as people who have fun with this game will not lurk on the forums all the time and nag around.
Regarding to western vs eastern players i am a western player and i am happy the game is not more of the same i had far to much off in the past and it has challenging and rewarding game mechanics and a great story and is NOT a mindless grind action like i.e. Aion.
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to really get an accurate picture, wait until 10/7/10 and then again on 10/30/10. Time will tell. I am betting the gneral felling is a good one.
I think it's great : it has some bugs but it's nothing like AoC. No crashes, game runs smooth, the UI is a bit slow and there is no AH so I have no idea what to sell things for or anything with the economy yet.
the only bugs i have seen, and i didnt play beta, is that sometimes i won't be able to attack a mob anymore after getting it down to half health, but this has never gotten me killed yet it always fixes itself relatively quickly.
my personal experience.
Well in it's defense, the game is 36 hours old. Think how 'big' you'll seem to new players in a year. HAR HAR!
A lot of jap people are bashing the game for multiple reasons. They think the game was developed in china and not in japan as a lot of the text in the jap version of the game are either ridiculous or misspelled. One glaring example is the use of the common FF word "Chocobo" which was written as "horsebird". They patched the mistake and instead of "chocobo" it's now misspelled as "Chocopo". What kind of moron would allow that to happen? lol That's like spelling Mr.Spock as Mr.Spawk. There are many more bad chinese2jap translations scattered throughout the game that are supposed to be patched in time. Can't wait to see what they come up with, hopefully it's as funny as "chocopo" LOL
So yea, if you thought that the majority of Japs like this game you are mistaken. On japan review sites and blogs you will find they are extremists in tearing down a company that isn't putting in the effort they think is required for the purchase price. Must be part of the culture.
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You really can't trust responses either way in these or any other forums...onyl way you'll knwo how popular this game is int he west and in japan is if SE release quantifiable and accurate figures.
Let's put it this way. Asians thought that lineage and lineage 2 were the best games ever.
Do we really care what japan/asia thinks of the game? they obviously have different, radicaly different tastes than western society. Throw a few of those little furry things in a game ie. pokemons and the games an instant best seller in japan.
one thing I notice, playing gladiator .. the combat is not slow at all. its rather fast. just I hate the stop, unsheath, then go part. oh and targeting is still a pain, specially with multiple mobs, and one of them pops underground or ported out, by the time you aquire the right target you've been peppered already with dmg.
mobs have color coded orbs - green, blue, easy peasy, .. anything with red and its kissing the aetherythe stone for you.
love the macro u can make to be able to swith classes on the fly. some of the main story quests are intersting, but it could really use some voice over. its like a caveman and an asian female grunting.. reminds me alot of dragon age, where the main character never speaks, and its just text and some npc are talking., but alot less of npc talking.
great game so far.
Probably not accurate to assume feedback is mostly poor. The people that like it are probably playing it. The people that don't are probably having issues getting in, or as others have said, haven't played the game.
I'm curious about it, but from what I've heard, it doesn't sound like my cup of tea.
In other words, you read enough negative comments about the game to help you for a negative, second hand impression, then made the jump to the assumption that you represent every Westerner?
I like the game enough to have bought it. I'm still not sure yet how it will stand up under extended play, but that's a combination of doubts I have for this title, combined with a jaded view of the genre from having played so many MMOs.
At least it's something different. Still too soon for me to conclude if different = good in this case, but I have a much better opinion of the game at this early point than I have had for a number of other MMOs I've played at launch.
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Dude, you really sound like a broken record now. You are talking about something you have no idea about. I have seen those words and let me tell you that this generation of Chinese could not even read that kind of characters anymore let alone writting something in it.
Make no mistake, Japanese kanji characters are borrowed from Chinese characters but they are used in a completely different way. A chinese person could not even read and understand a sentense written in kanji.
So, stop spreading something that you have no clue about.
Most of the time you can easily see which posts are blind fandom or blind hatred. People who look at forums for others opinions have to be smart enough to pay attention to the evidence and the details that can be verified through cross referencing with other reviews. It's not that difficult.
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So what are your references. Please link.
A. You are saying that chinese can't write/translate into jap properly? That was my point. ; )
B. How do you know what an entire country can understand? (especially considering how many there are!!!) WoW!! That's an amazing superpower!
C. Here is a screenshot of said example for your viewing pleasure. One of many mistakes which curiously resemble common mistakes made when people in china try to translate into jap.
In all cases the errors are caused by confusing the dots and circles which turn syllables like “ho” (?) into “bo” (?) and “po” (?). Most Japanese seem to consider it “absolutely impossible” for a native speaker to have made such an incredibly basic error, let alone so many times.
Such bizarre and blatant errors seem to indicate not only a lack of proof-reading but also a curious lack of familiarity with the Japanese language.
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*Foreworded warning - Don't visit Sankaku Complex to find out what I'm talking about unless you are of legal age in your area, it contains adult themes and isn't safe for the childrens. It's a Japanese troll news and 'miscellania' site, but it does contain nudity and other adult stuff.
I'm glad you have a familiarity with *Sankaku Complex where only the most inflamed of ideas are brought over for our amusement. Ever see anything positive on that site other than naked 2chan goddesses and cosplay? Thought not. It's an amusing site and a small minority of Japanese are complaining about certain small things, but when an entire nation's biggest complaint is 'Hey, this doesn't seem to be right.. SPELLING, ONOZ!' then.. yeah, wait, nevermind. Everybody hates it. You're right, of course.
Maybe one day buck up or shut up and actually form an opinion for yourself rather than stealing it from somewhere or someone else and coming here to post it with a big troll smiley face.
*Edit - Oh, and if you're directly copy pasting your opinion from Sankaku Complex then maybe say that somewhere so we don't think you're a super genius yourself.
*Once again, don't go to Sankaku Complex if you're the children. Please. Thank you.
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Wouldn't say it was a hard game. It just seems like they took all the bits and squashed them together. Just seemed like a huge mess. (From Open Beta, could of changed since launch but no MMO i know could fix what i saw in the that small time frame)
What exactly made you think posting references to an adult site with pornography on it was a good idea? Comon man... get with the program.
"I'm not cheap I'm incredibly subconsciously financially optimized"
"The worst part of censorship is ------------------"
I would think anyone playing this game would be very busy right now enjoying their new toy and not too interested in visiting forums. (Unless they're just killing time at work like I'm doing right now)
Of course those who do bother to come here are likely to be the crowd that's got their panties in a bunch for one reason or another.
So I wouldn't read too much into the negativity you read on forums, look at WOW, probably one of the more vilified games on forums and yet the king of the hill in terms of sub.
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To answer your question. I first returned right now to the PC and updated the game after server checks. So I had a bit time and looked around here.
But Hey arguments are actually a boring thing I can talk everything good or bad if I like.
A. No, I am not saying that. You are claiming that there are chinese that was not translated completely in the JP version of FFXIV, I said you don't know what the hell you are talking about. Just because you can use google to find it does not mean you can understand it. So, stop talking about a topic you know nothing about. I will point that out abit later in poin C.
B. No, I am not saying the whole country can't understand. I am saying the chinese characters have changed greatly and changed from the core, meaning, Chinese children growing up now learn a very different kind of Chinese characters. Chinese media, as well as official documents are now all use these kind of characters. Unlike the one we are talking about here. Unless you have to go through special training, a regular young generation Chinese person could not read these kinds of characters anymore let alone wrtting them. On top of that, the kanji characters are based on an very old form of chinese characters, many of them have disappeared in the Chinese language itself. Even then, the Japanese change the symbols themself make them even more different from the root.
C. Look at your screenshot of what you consider as "proof" of common mistake of people in China trying to translate into Japanese. This actually serves as a shinning example to point out that you know nothing of topic. The line you have the cursor on is written in a common way in Japan. They tend to mix 3 of their character sets together in the same sentense. This does not mean that it was a mistake when people in China trying to translate into Japanese, it's just the way Japanese people write. Like this
Back to the creenshot you post the line right below (the one in braket) is another example of that mix. Do you even know what those characters mean? Another example is the one down below more, on top of the candles are completely written in kanji. Are they Chinese that did not get translated? lol, ask a Chinese person to read that line to you and see what they say.
Again, if you don't know stuffs, please, just STFU.