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I share the same view as this person, so nana nana boo boo stick your head in doo doo. Ok forget what I just said this isn't really a troll post so read on now that I got your attention.
Oh don't worry my WoW friends who still love the game, but hate this one MAJOR flaw with it. It will happen sooner or later, subscription numbers will force it. People won't stand for it for much longer.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26725727299&sid=1&pageNo=1
I was also banned posting this as a suggestion of the way to curb it. Just like how the post that I linked above suggests.
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/3830/temporaryforumbanreason.jpg
If you even decide to go to the link inside that post you'll find that it is a legitimate form of trading for EQ2,FreeRealms, and Vanguard linked from Sony.
So where is the Hack, Cheat, Trojan, Malicious Program at in that URL? Well played Blizzard, well played... bump me off because you have the power. Well don't worry your subscribers have the real power in the end. We will see who wins this war eventually. At least I know that I suggested a REAL suggestion that you could not handle, but would rather skirt the issue under the table yet once again cowards!
http://www.soe.com/
See bottom of page that links to station exchange.
http://stationexchange.station.sony.com/livegamer.vm
Click Live Gamer link.
http://www.livegamer.com/
http://www.livegamer.com/lgx-exchange/
https://exchange.livegamer.com/eqii/
https://exchange.livegamer.com/vanguard/
At least they are brave enough to do it the legit way even though it still is rather greedy at least it is truthful.
It's also funny to if you try to whois all of the gold selling websites you'll come up with nothing... Is that even legal? Keep hiding it Blizzard, hide behind your WALL OF WEALTH, cowards. Also way to go on not paying taxes on the money you are making off of it.
The full headers option is not a 100% reliable method of determining if the e-mail is legitimate or not. A while back, I recieved a e-mail exactly like the one you have, and using the full headers option showed the return paths as being from Blizzard. The thing is, the e-mail was pure b.s.; I went to WoW's webpage myself (NEVER click any e-mail link), and logged in to the legitimate website account option. My account status hadn't really changed. Also remember that if you have an inactive account, Blizzard seems to use the words inactive and frozen interchangeably.
"Oh my, how horrible, someone is criticizing a MMO. Oh yeah, that is what a forum is about, looking at both sides. You rather have to be critical of anything in this genre as of late because the track record of these major studios has just been appalling." -Ozmodan
Isn't the most obvious thing to do is actually check for yourself by manually typing "battle.net" in your browser and check?
If you fall for spoof emails, you might as well fall for nigeran scammers.
using AddOns = more vulnerability to hacks
but without them you will suck in pvp...and in pve too
Thantatopsis
please explain to me how i was fooled when i didnt even have an ACTIVE account for 4 years, changed all my details before i logged out for the last time. Yet because i have no activity on my account its then falsely accused of hacking !!!
LMAO, i havent even used my account in 4 years, the bank details on that account are even closed !!
Hey poster i think blizzard is behind it but only to get people to come back and play, I mean they already have access to all accounts it would be ez for them todo it..but you anything can happen. I stoped playing just after the launch of BC, I did the same thing another poster did change my password ect..I played since OB. A few months ago i got an email and decided to call account support and not to click the like on the e-mail, appearently they said my account was frozen due to a farming bot a year ago. I told them i haven't played since BC we went through a process and i got my account back with a few new lvl 70's with 5k++ in gold and alot of mats on different toons. So what ever is going on thanks lets do it again Cataclysm is coming out
Hum... changed all your details before you logged out for the last time 4 years ago?!?!? cus we all do that with our accounts, you just lost the little bit of cred you had on this subject.. now your just trolling and out right lying.
They arent just trolls but idiots. Anyone who blieves blizz hacks accounts its just a moron. They have no reason to do so. U think your inactive account matters to them They have 11.5 mil subs what the hell does one inactive account matter to them.
They dont need to hack accounts to get people to come back. People who come back come back because they cant find an mmo they like better ot else wanna try the new expac out.
NO one belives a word of your i got hacked by blizz crap. Anyone who does is a complete and utter moron and idiot.
If u belive blizz hacks accounts i got some swamp land in arkansas for sale thats gonna be turned into the next big walmart.
This post is funny because at one time I felt the same way. My account was hacked about 3 years ago. I also have never bought gold or used add-ons or ever even gave out my user id or pw to anyone not even my husband. I now have an authenticator and paid the $ 7 for it. It is the best purchase I made for the game. The emails and ingame messages can be very tricky and scary. Be careful. Also, Blizzard has fantastic customer service. Have you ever thought to call them and talk to them about your account situation. They are prone to giving free game time and if your stuff is ever stolen or compromised you will pretty much get it back within 24 hours. So I DO NOT feel Blizzard is behind this. Imagine how many phone calls they have to take and time spent recovering peoples items and GM's answering questions. I'm sure it comes out to way more spent then it is worth for them to do this lol.
post above I have to agree Blizzard support teams is alright with me. It took less then 15mins to fix my account...GO team Craft
Find it strange Blizzard employees (im sure they read some threads here) have not told MMORPG to remove my thread or challenge my views on this hacking of accounts by Blizzard staff.
Blizzard, PROVE to me my account was hacked from MY PC
Then lets take it to court
...Of course they are! I mean what company wouldn't want to pay numerous employees to fix problems like hacking of accounts - it makes perfect financial sense!
They don't have to prove anything to you. They have publically posted information and steps to take in order to not get your account hacked. You obviously did not follow it to the letter and so your account was 'hacked'. They have so many stolen accounts simply because there are so many people playing the game and a lot of people don't have much common sense when it comes to internet security. That is not their problem... it is yours.
They have legal recourse stipulated in their Terms Of Service for just these kinds of situations. You do not. I know it sucks to get your account hacked, but it really is the fault of the player in 99.9% of cases.
duomenox
like everyone else here you are assuming a lot of ifs and buts regarding my security details.
Heres the kicker, 2006 account frozen. Then i recieve the first EVER email from "Blizzard" saying my accounts been hacked.
Strange that..
so you prove to me i was hacked then... im still waiting as i know for a fact i have never been hacked. or got any keyloggers on my PC and thats Fact
And what are you basing this on? What some AV program tells you? There are literally hundreds of thousands to millions of different threats on the internet and many of them haven't even been identified by AV vendors yet.
You could have had something that no one recognized and that no one yet has a fix for. It it was malware, it might not even STILL be on your computer. If it was a spoof email leading you to a fake Blizzard site, that's not even a hack... that's just trickery (and usually poorly done). Yet thousands of people fall for it daily.
From the sounds of it, ever since the battle.net was forced the number of hacked accounts has gone threw the roof. Blizzard should be seeing this but instead of giving the customer the sercruity they deserve, they want you to pay more $$ to get it secure. Player fault is certainly the case for some but the amount hacked and the battle.net being forced are 100% linked. Nothing to do with the players since the only thing that has changed is that they now use battle.net.
Simple and cannot be denied that battle.net is seriously flawed in terms of account sercruity. Worst of all is Blizzard don't plan on correcting the flaws but instead just get you to pay a few $$ more.
I'm sorry about this, but I have to call you out on this one...
You cannot sit behind a RADIUS server because a RADIUS server has nothing to do with security. It is purely for authentication. As a matter of fact RADIUS servers default to clear text authentication which is insecure by default.
While RADIUS is still highly used, and traffic can be encrypted by various means (such as an IP-Sec tunnel from the RADIUS server to the device requesting credentials) the industry has started moving toward authentication protocols such as Secure LDAP.
At this point you are looking for a full Layer 7 Gateway where you can do deep packet inspection. That is the only way you would be able to definitively know that all your traffic was legit and none of it was unsolicited by you as a user.
Do I think you were hacked? Well before this post I didn't think you were, but now I am not sure. Either you know what you are doing and made a mistake in your post, you think you know what you are doing and are trying to sound like you know more than you know, or you know nothing about Information Security and you are trying to use buzzwords to look smart... which one are you? I honestly don't know.
With that being said, Jessian, your fighting an uphill battle here. You're angry at the email. Hackers can spoof the headers with very little effort. The easiest way to tell if it was a hacker's email is to right-click on the link you received, select copy or copy shortcut (different based on the version of Outlook you are running) and paste it into notepad. Chances are it goes to a site that is not a blizzard owned and operated site.
im suprised at the amount of people nit picking on this forum regarding my serious allegation regarding Blizzard are hacking peoples accounts. Its the same responses others only harp on... its your PC, you used that email, you have a keylogger yet when its turned around back on them with valid arguements,
like the battle.net now the authenticator scam... and so forth. At what point do people stop and wake up and say hey its not the gamers fault his account was hacked but more HOW was it hacked when it was CLOSED for 4 years and all passwords changed to the strongest details i could.
NO one could have got that information peroid.
Blizzard 100% at fault
[quote] [i]Originally posted by jessian[/i] [b] duomenox[/b] [b]like everyone else here you are assuming a lot of ifs and buts regarding my security details.[/b] [b]Heres the kicker, 2006 account frozen. Then i recieve the first EVER email from "Blizzard" saying my accounts been hacked.[/b] [b]Strange that..[/b] [/quote] Not strange.... If someone else hacked into your account, even if it was frozen, you were hacked... by definition. It does not matter what status your account was in, they got in, may have reactivated your account, and went on their merry little way. I'm not assuming anything. I gave you a highly possible scenario.
Hacked or not. I find that trying to contact Blizzard support is nigh impossible. I read that people get in contact in 15 minutes and I'm not sure if I buy that. I've called the support hotline straight out of the Starcraft instructions that were included with the game. Same number for Warcraft I might add. The number is always -que full-. This is not much of a hotline or support line if customers can not get through. I also get no response in email from Blizzard support except in the form of cookie cutter response emails. The only customer support that I rate as worse is SOE. The best customer support I've had is from NCSoft and Arenanet who I've always been able to make contact with a representative and in a decent amount of time. They don't solve the problem all the time but at least I'm able to talk to someone. I think if you have a question about your account status and if it might be hacked then you should be able to speak with a Blizzard representative in a reasonable amount of time. A constantly full phone que tells me that the company is having either serious issues with thier game or serious issues going wrong with player accounts.
Well we can agree to disagree I suppose. I use common sense and follow security tips and I have never had my account hacked. I know the same can be said for many many other people.
This has all been said before a million times though. SOOO many people get their accounts stolen, but it is usually their fault.
I wish you the best of luck with your impossible legal battle though!
I hold Blizzard accountable although perhaps not a hundred percent. I get a lot of those fake emails too but I find it strange that out of all the MMOs I've played, heh, and thats quite a few, I only started to get those fake World of Warcraft hacked account emails after subscribing to Starcraft. I can't help but feel there is a connection. Nothin I can prove or back up. Maybe coincidence. Still.... My gut tells me something fishy is going on here.
"A serious allegation" ehh, your just in a forum spouting about it. If its serious make it public through media and file a class action against them.
But then again self proclaimed theories don't really count as evidence claiming they are robbing their customers.
Instead of runnig around on MMORPG.com and screaming with a pointed finger, fighting with the forums your right, you cant prove it, and your all just against me,
go out and prove it.
Not hearsay, not theories, but go get something concrete.
if its true, then go after them.
A game is just that... a game, not an emotional crutch.