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Baalim
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Im about to build my own pc. Do any of you have any suggestions on specific parts that i should get...like vid card, processor, stuff like that. i have already chosen the case. I am gettin an Elite Guardian case from newegg.com they are pretty good so i think i may get all the stuff from there but im not sure. let me know if you have any suggestions.
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Start with the most important thing... what does your budget look like?
is that guardian case the one that looks like a transformer?
well my budget is as much as i need it to be. im working at movie gallery and i am putting every cent that i get toward building my pc....with the exception of gas and food and here is a link to the case that i am getting
oh yeah its the nemesis elite not the guardian elite
http://http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811146007
Well I built my computer from scratch some are a bit out of date but here are some of my specs.
ATI Mid Tower Case, AMD Athalon XP ~1.7Gig Processor, Mushkin BlackLine 1Gig of RAM, 500 Watt Power Supply (I think), GeForce FX 5900 128mb Video Card, Sound Blaster Audigy Gamer (sound card), Lite On 15x DVD ROM (had 52x Creative CD ROM), LS 120 Floppy Drive, Western Digital Hard Drive 80 Gig, Logitech Keyboard, Logitech Mouse, Creative 5.1 Speakers.
As that other person was saying first off you gotta calculate how much youre wanting to spend. 2nd thing you need to worry bout is; are you a hardcore gamer? If so a decent video card or even 2 video cards that have SLI would be great, have to have a high output power supply, 500+
Originally my computer was around 1700. You choose the brand names. You can have an ATI Video card if you dont like PNY NVidia, you can have a Seagate HD if you dont like Western digital.
Best place to shop for prices...........www.pricewatch.com, some items can have free shipping.
Oh yeah and also I have a KDS 19 inch Monitor (from WalMart); the lower the dot pitch the better.
Hope this helps
Custom PCs are almost 100% [well more like always] cheaper than retail when you add up the PC component prices. I recommend newegg.com for cheaper than retail parts with great shipping prices and warranties.
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i built all my 3 but now i never intend to again. i found a site that gives you the comp better then what you want to build for about the same price.
www.cyberpowerinc.com
awesome site my friend got one and its awesome and very cheap.
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I plan on building a computer this summer. Im getting everything from newegg. I checked out the site. it was ok. The computer im building is 820, Monitor and all. I checked at a Pc there that was around the same price. I found out thtat they skimped out on the ram giving Geil value ram and they gave you a standard power supply and no monitor.....
After adding the parts I wanted it came to 980 bucks... So is is a bit more expensive than what Im paying for from newegg. Plus im not into all the tricked out puters that have flashy cases and neons, that looks like a spaceship... Just give me a black case and im set.....
But other than that If you dont feel like building a gaming puter then this is probobly the best place to buy. But if your wanting to build go newegg fo sho.....
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i havent looked at their lower end or any of their intels. but their SLI's are the best priced ive seen, even if i have to replace the ram and the power supply its a grand or two cheaper then any other manufacturer, also computer gaming world said their SLI's not only kicked ass, but were the most price effective.
i plan on ordering a SLI, just cus i cant imagine configuring the raids, and teh default graphics drivers for those by myself, im excellent at hardware, and below IT level at software. so i think ill let them build me an SLI. also my uncle ordered one of their 64 bit laptops and said it had a really really good battery life.
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Ok, I agree with everyone here about Newegg.com, however, there are two other sites you should consider when ordering parts.
ZipZoomFly.com - This site usually beats the Newegg prices and has free 2 day shipping on almost everything in stock. When you're comparing prices between here and Newegg, take into account shipping costs. Many people who build their PC's neglect shipping and on heavier items such as a CRT, case or power supply, shipping can set you back a decent chunk of change. I've bought almost everything from these guys.
Monarch Computer Systems - I've never actually ordered from these guys but in my research to find trust worthy online companies to buy hardware from, they were listed up there with Newegg and ZipZoomFly, so I figured I'd pass them along.
Ok, now if you're looking for the top of the line equiptment, then you'll want to look at the following (prices are estimates):
CPU - AMD FX-55 ($800-$900)
This is the best performing CPU for gaming systems out today, which is why it will set you back like $800-$900 for just the CPU. None of the multipliers are locked on this CPU so you could overclock it if you like to peak out your performance.
Memory - Corsair TWINX1024-4400C25 1GB Kit DDR550 XMS4400 ($250)
Take a look at AnandTech.com review on these modules. They are quite impressive.
Motherboard - DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX ($150)
This motherboard got excellent reviews. Just Google on it and read some of them. Plus, again, it offers you the option to overclock if you choose to do so on an unlocked FX-55.
Video - 2 6800 Ultra 256MB PCI-e video cards run in SLI mode ($500-$600 each)
I'm an nVidia fan myself and there's arguements for and against them. The same holds true with the ATI cards. Being a fan of nVidia, I'm not too up to date on the ATI catds, so someone else can comment if they can be run in SLI mode or not. I'm not really sure on this. The motherboard above runs on a nForce 4 chipset, a product of nVidia, so I'd stick with nVidia.
HDD - Hitachi Deskstar 7K80 80GB Serial ATA II 7200RPM Hard Drive w/8MB Buffer ($65 each)
you are striped. If you get 4, you can then go to RAID0+1 which adds mirroring for data integrity (or you can set the whole thing up as RAID0 for 320GB of space).
Get either 2 or 4 of these. If you get 2 you can set it up in RAID0 (Striping) for 160GB of space and it will be FAST since A) it's SATA-II interface and
DVDRW - Philips DVDR16LS LightScribe DVD-Writer
This drive got a great review at CD Freaks however, I was not even able to find this drive available anywhere. I have the LG GSA-4163B Super Multi DVD-writer and have had 0 problems with it. Read some reviews of other drives and just pick one, really.
At this point you're looking at about $2,600 and that's not including a monitor. You could get GREAT performance for 1/2 the price of this setup by going with a Winchester 3000+ CPU and OC'ing it and subtituting a single 6800 GT PCI-e video card for the 2 Ultra's and that always leaves you room to grow.
Good luck on building your system... you may want to check out sites like Tom's Hardware and AnandTech for research.
Building a computer isnt that hard i dont think. The cpu process is a delicate process but is simpilar than thought. Just dont bend anything or crack anything. Place it in and lock it in place and add a heatsink on top of it after puttin it in the case. If you have an Amd go to their website for instructions that are pretty simple and detailed.
The hard part of building is just the delicacy of everything...
If you are building a computer, buy from newegg.com it is the best and it has like overnight shipping even if you order cheap. Most states have it free of tax but states like California are doomed to pay tax to them. If you hve the money you should go with AMD processors being the fastest of all of them. I wouldnt buy anything right now though seeing how the Dual Core processors are gonna be released and probably everything like windows and games that you buy will go through change.
For ram make sure ure motherboard and ram is compatible. The Pc_____ is ure speed and stuff. The faster obviously is the best. 3200 is a good fast speed that wont be bsed priced like 1000 dollars.
Nvidia makes good graphics, I would prefer to buy their cards. If you hve money buy a Gigabyte 6800 ultra or a 850 Xt all in wonder from ATI and stuff. For cheaper nvidia is better with their GT cards. You get ure bang for you buck.
You might want a sound card for the Crushing sounds if you play alot of games.
If you buy a fast processor, You probably want the heatsink that comes with the cpu cause it is most fit for the heat. If you have something like a Fx-55 or some high price procecssor, you might want to buy a case wtih more fans. If you are starting to build ure first ones, i would buy a cheap processor to get good or something. Intel is a good processor to start with though. If you have an expensive one and you dmg the pins then your over.
Intel is good right now for their 90NM processing chips cause it runs faster but may create more heat. AMd is switching over and plans to go 65NM but is currently developing their 90NM but it isnt soo great.
Make sure when you buying ure mother board to get the same amount of pin slots as ure cpu. AMD has 979 so get a socket 979. ASUS motherboards are a good company and they are reliable. IF you have the MOney buy a SLI type motherboard. YOu can have 2 graphics cards simultaniously working at the same time. Makes you graphics phenominal.
Also, Get a good sized hard drive you dont wanna run out of memory. SOme people like getting an western raptor 10000 rpm drive (normal is 7200 rpm) which is around 200 dollars and has 72 gb but is czy fast. Also ppl get a second one to store the useless files (non games) which is around like 200 bucks for like 250 gb.
Having a really high tech comp is good cause it can be used forever almost. DUAL CORE commin out. SHould revolutionize the entire cpu industry. Intel may fall behind, sure looks like it but they still control 85% of the market.
Dual core is basiaclly 2 cpu cores working together. It makes games better because you can one cpu on ure characters functions and one on AI.
If you want a dual core, you should wait until 2006 cause the companies gotta get out the kinks of the cpu and stuff.or maybe one of the CPUs explode or smoke easily. Bad things are that you have excessive heat amounts to get rid of. I would buy a 5-7 fan case for those or a liquid cooled one.
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If you are building a computer, buy from newegg.com it is the best and it has like overnight shipping even if you order cheap. Most states have it free of tax but states like California are doomed to pay tax to them. If you hve the money you should go with AMD processors being the fastest of all of them. I wouldnt buy anything right now though seeing how the Dual Core processors are gonna be released and probably everything like windows and games that you buy will go through change.
For ram make sure ure motherboard and ram is compatible. The Pc_____ is ure speed and stuff. The faster obviously is the best. 3200 is a good fast speed that wont be bsed priced like 1000 dollars.
Nvidia makes good graphics, I would prefer to buy their cards. If you hve money buy a Gigabyte 6800 ultra or a 850 Xt all in wonder from ATI and stuff. For cheaper nvidia is better with their GT cards. You get ure bang for you buck.
You might want a sound card for the Crushing sounds if you play alot of games.
If you buy a fast processor, You probably want the heatsink that comes with the cpu cause it is most fit for the heat. If you have something like a Fx-55 or some high price procecssor, you might want to buy a case wtih more fans. If you are starting to build ure first ones, i would buy a cheap processor to get good or something. Intel is a good processor to start with though. If you have an expensive one and you dmg the pins then your over.
Intel is good right now for their 90NM processing chips cause it runs faster but may create more heat. AMd is switching over and plans to go 65NM but is currently developing their 90NM but it isnt soo great.
Make sure when you buying ure mother board to get the same amount of pin slots as ure cpu. AMD has 979 so get a socket 979. ASUS motherboards are a good company and they are reliable. IF you have the MOney buy a SLI type motherboard. YOu can have 2 graphics cards simultaniously working at the same time. Makes you graphics phenominal.
Also, Get a good sized hard drive you dont wanna run out of memory. SOme people like getting an western raptor 10000 rpm drive (normal is 7200 rpm) which is around 200 dollars and has 72 gb but is czy fast. Also ppl get a second one to store the useless files (non games) which is around like 200 bucks for like 250 gb.
Having a really high tech comp is good cause it can be used forever almost. DUAL CORE commin out. SHould revolutionize the entire cpu industry. Intel may fall behind, sure looks like it but they still control 85% of the market.
Dual core is basiaclly 2 cpu cores working together. It makes games better because you can one cpu on ure characters functions and one on AI.
If you want a dual core, you should wait until 2006 cause the companies gotta get out the kinks of the cpu and stuff.or maybe one of the CPUs explode or smoke easily. Bad things are that you have excessive heat amounts to get rid of. I would buy a 5-7 fan case for those or a liquid cooled one.
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Well first off, if you're gonna build a gaming computer, you'll need around 600-700 bucks. First thing, the cpu. I'm not sure how AMDs work, but I do know how Intels work. For gaming, I suggest getting at least a 2.8 Ghz p4. It would probably cost around 160 bucks. AMD Athlons do perform better with their 64 bit capabilities. <---------------Cpu
Next, for RAM, get at least 512 MB, but only if you can't afford a gig. For both though, get a dual channel configuration. (like 2x256MB or 2x512MB) Buy from a well established brand such as Crucial, Kingston, Viking, or Corsair. Don't buy no-name memory. Memory from such companies could create hard to diagnose problems in the future. Also make sure your RAM type matches your motherboard.<-------------RAM
For you Motherboard, you'll first have to choose your size. Most computers today use the ATX form factor, and it seems to be the standard size. Make sure your motherboard's size is compatible with your case. Choose your motherboard by deciding on its features such as number of pci slots and usb ports. If you plan to use up slots with media cards, sound cards etc. then you'll want more pci slot. Some manufacturers I reccomend buying from are Asus or Abit. You won't be dissapointed by them.<-------------Motherboard
For your Case, get one with at least a 420 Watt power supply. You'll be ready with certain parts that take up a lot of juice. Also make sure your case and your motherboard match each other. You'll also want to choose your case material. Wither steel or aluminum. Steel cases muffle sound, but are slo a lot heavier. Aluminum, the other way around. <-------------------------Case
For your video card, choose from either ATi or Nvidia. I don't see that much fo a diffrence between them. If you're a fan of overclocking, Nvidia has overclocking features already set up. Choose a video card with at least 128 MB of RAM on board. Also consider buying an PCI EXPRESS video card. THe AGp slot is getting a little out-dated. Shop around on sites to find the best deals. Read customer reviews too.<------------Video Card
For your Hard Drive, choose how many gigs you want. If you're going to be using your computer for gaming, YOu might need more gigs depending on how many games you want to install. (especially mmorpgs) I also suggest getting a SATA drive, which will eventually replace the older PATA drives. They have a thinner power cord, and are easier to work with. They also transerfer memory thorugh faster. <--------------Hard Drives
For your drive/burner, I guess you could get anything. If you're getting a burner, you'll want the fastest write speeds. RIght now, the fastest write speed for cd-roms is 52X and for Dvd-romsit's 16X. Get a double layer that will do the job. Also read reviews and check which company makes it. <---------------drives
YOu might want to consider some of these sites:
www.crucial.com <------for checking RAM and Motherboard comaptibility
http://www.pcworld.com/howto/index/0,00.asp <---general tips
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If one chooses his or her components carefully, you can build a really good gamer's rig for well under $1000, with $600-$700 being nominal. As I stated in one of the other three threads on the exact same topic, I go through MWave (http://www.mwave.com) for most of components.