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I hate gambling, it stresses me out and I don't find it fun whether I win or lose but I'd gamble to bet all these healthy 2.5K servers are going to drop down to 500 people in about 20-30 days. I tried so hard to like this game.
Joined two linkshells, didn't matter, linkshells are more like chatrooms than groups that party together.
I tried to ask people in town to party with my leve quests as enticement, rarely do people join or even respond
So then I tried the party system, you can join other people's open parties, like in WAR, but alas, 95% of them are japanese parties and they often didn't want foreigners in the party because its hard to communicate
So I harvested and crafted, but you can only do that so long before you fall asleep at your desk...
So I tried buying new things at the bazaars, oh my goodness, by the time I found what I wanted I paid whatever it cost no matter what the cost was because I couldn't take looking anymore. In Ultima, if you found a vendor you liked, you marked a rune there and came back. In FFXIV, you'll have to write down the approximate location on a piece of people along with the name of the vendor and MAYBE you'll find it again...
So I got my new stuff, time to fight some more, I heard behests were cool and people partied for so I tried that. I was able to get 2 others to join up and we got most of the way through the quests and then we died and everyone disbanned. Not technically a bad experience but I hardly gained any experience as a healer.
So I tried one more time with a party, got 7 (wow!) people together and we were partying it up. Killed random mobs, (had to do a lot of experimenting because mobs are very poorly labeled in terms of difficulty) and I leveled up and it was rewarding to buff a whole party of 7 people with stoneskin and spiked roots (sorry I forget my own spells name) and AoE healing during a fight. But sadly I started to want to fall asleep at my desk again because there was no point to this fighting. We weren't doing a quest, we weren't helping someone, we weren't progressing to a cool boss fight or exploring the lands, merely mindlessly killing mobs for the sake of doing ANYTHING in this game.
We were just killing the same mob over and over to gain experience ... for what? I didn't know anymore. So I tried one last thing, I ran as far as I could run. If I found out the zones got more interesting and the mobs became bigger, more interesting, and more fun down the road I would put up with it for the light at the end of the tunnel. You know what I saw? More squirrels... and then eventually some deer, and then right before it looked like I was getting somewhere cool, a dog looking mob killed me in one hit (to be expected since I was running well beyond my level area) but I just can't do it anymore, this game is devoid of any real fun or content.
I expected it to have a lot of problems before I bought it so I don't feel like I wasted my money as I knew what I was getting myself into mostly, but still, wow, I can't say I've ever tried to like a game so much that intentionally seemed to disappoint me at every turn. Unsubscribed, I don't want to judge anyone that actually starts paying a monthly fee for this game in 20 days or so but if you're real life is more boring than this game, I'm sorry
I had more fun in Fly For Fun than this game... at least in that game I was looking forward to flying, I have no idea what you're supposed to want to be 'working' towards in this game. Ultima, I wanted to tame dragons and buy a tower. In WoW, I wanted to try raids and kill something epic. In FFXIV, I want it to make me want to stick around for ANY reason... and it just won't throw me a bone.
I'm going to have to say in it's current state that this is the worst MMO I've ever seen and I've played a TON of them. People said Vanguard was bad when it launched and WAR and AoC and Aion... at least FFXIV forces you to slow down unlike those games, because most people complained those games were devoid of endgame. No one is at endgame in FFXIV by design, I guess it has that going for it?
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I feel your pain..... I haven't logged in the game in like a week... I may or may not log back in, but I don't feel like I have an insentive to log in , tbh.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
wow yeah i hear you should have read the reviews and game play before buying the game this way you wont be so mad . but then again this game not for everyone different flavors different cake
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You hit the nail on the head OP. The game's FUN factor is the real deciding issue with the game. Get passed the UI/technical issues, AH/market ward issues, crafting issues, fatigue issues, etc. that permeate a ton of arguments about the game, the REAL issue comes down to looking past those and finding the game doesn't offer me anything. What am I grinding these different classes and crafts for exactly? Seems no one knows.
I have a character at Fabul lvl22 and when I heard that my classmates were at Rabanastre, I then decided to make a new character there and leave my character at Fabul. I never got tired of making a new one and am still enjoying the game, I'm already PHYS lvl12 right now. I really don't understand what's the problem but I also do respect your opinion. I feel for you too in the part where you felt you really wasted your hard-earned cash.
The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting." - Sun Tzu, Art of War
OP you are far from alone. Most people don't like the game because it just isn't fun. I even had the rose colored glasses on and tried to convince myself I was having fun, but within a week its obvious that the game lacks direction and soul and just isn't a fun experience. I would have more fun playing FF3 for the SNES than that. It's not often I cancel my account to a game that I waited years for in the first 30 days but well, grats SE on making the worst game of 2010. Topping the shit mountain that was STO, APB, and MO seemed like an impossible task to the consuming gaming fan, but SE found a way to reach for a new level of mediocrity.
Thats what killed it for myself as well Elocke. I don't mind an old school grind and challenge, but I need direction in a game. Even in sandbox games you have personal agenda's and goals to strive for, hell even MUDs pulled that off. I agree with your other post btw, the only way I can see FF14 redeem itself is a complete and justifiably needed NGE. Granted, its a gamble since you may run off the fans you have left, but the game is floundering and receiving the worst critic reviews of any MMO this year and I don't see any other way for its long term success but to basically keep the leveling system, the graphic engine, and get to work on a complete and total overhaul from the ground up because what they presented has been hailed as nothing less then a disaster for SE and a step back for the entire MMO market.
well if you stop wasting money on shitting games maybe that help
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Did you read my post? I said I read about the game, knew what I was getting myself into, and I don't feel like I wasted my money for those reasons. I'm not remotely mad, I'm not even really disappointed, I am just stating the facts of my experience.
If they would just fix the goddamned lag!!! I can't take using the fucking UI anymore. It just hurts too bad....make it stop.... please, just make it stop...
The target system is terrible also. If you only target 1 mob and attack, it's not a big deal but I am a healer, have to target the guy closest to the middle of the group to get the most AoE heals and buffs off, and it's very hard to cycle through to the right person (I use PS3 controller) in a timely matter. But the lag is horrible as well, I hate that I have to hunt for NPCs in town that I assume should be there but I have to wait 20 seconds to make sure they actually appear or don't.
yeah i read your post but if you dont like a game dont read it, me only like certin things i read certin books i like but if i dont like what i hear about it i dont pick it up or read about it . its simple telling every one you hate the game is really no sence there people who like it still going to get it like my friend he loves final fantasy, i tell him i hate it but he likes it :P
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Its wild, absolutely every aspect of this game is awful. How could SE efff up the whole game?
No, you didn't read my post. You said I was mad I wasted my money when I specifically said that wasn't the case. I love FF and I love MMOs even more. I own FFXI, FFXII, and FFXIII still on my shelf. Please, just walk away, you're not even speaking understandable English. I'm telling people my experience, which I have every right to do. There is no rage, no anger, no hate, you're just making stuff up.
Very well written post, i feel you man. this game is a huge dissapointment to all of us, especialy us FFXI fans. The worst part is that when i vent my thoughts on this game, i can be 90% sure to get the "go back to wow, kiddie" response from some ignorant fanboy. Im a FFXI player at heart and i never enjoyed any aspect of world of warcraft, but apparently if you dont enjoy this game you belong to the group of inferior people known as "wow players" and your sole existance is a bane to everything thats good.
It's a sad tactic used to make themselves feel better and somehow enjoy the game by providing themselves a false sense of entitlement. Some people will do anything to be different, including games. No matter how bad a game or a movie is there will always be raving fans of it to tell you "you just didn't get it". Oh, we got it alright, and believe me if we could return it we would.
Sounds like what you really wanted was something to look forward to. And you know, I can see your point, because right now there's not a whole lot of that kind of thing in the game. You gain levels and ranks... and get access to bigger gear/recipes for gear... but there's really nothing there yet because they haven't yet gotten around to enabling it.
Last I heard, you can't enter Ishgard yet, which is sort of the nexus of the three factions like it was for FFXI. So the game ends at about rank 29 right now. What we've got is the foundation, the portal, not the complete game.
I get the feel that there really is going to be an epic end game because FFXI demonstrated the devs know how to make one. However, even if there may be something to look forward to eventually, the FFXIV devs are keeping their cards close to their chest, they aren't letting the cat out of the bag, so you basically have nothing to go on but faith right now.
I laughed and I laughed hard.
There is nothing to get about this game other than that it is boring as all hell and there is no pvp in it. Crafting is some of the worst crafting system I have seen out of any game. People hail it like it is the best damn thing, well the combat is better than that god awful crafting system.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
I'm so confused how someone can make a post like this. You agree there is absolutely no point to FFXIV and basically saying you are paying your sub in hopes that one day there might be? Why not just... not give SE a cent till they release an actual MMO?
You have an interesting definition of what an MMO is. If an MMO is the end game, well, they might as well not have any levels leading up to it. I like to think the point is the journey, not the destination, and FFXIV certainly had that at release.
Without picking on him, it's only because he's a big FF fan and it has the FF name on the box. When Mortal Online released in practically the same condition (lack of things to do but charging people for broken, open beta) it got tore to shreds on these forums and by many reviews. If the game didn't say FF on it, he'd be admitting how lackluster it was like the rest of us. I can't blame him for wanting a new MMO home and hope SE can turn it around for him and the others like him but the future doesn't look too bright for FF14, one of the worst released MMO's of recent years.
Yeah, you sure have a long tedious journey in front of you. But whats the point? Why would i want to PAY to be able to kill rabbits and dodos in a game with a broken UI that literary does everything to annoy you? Are you some kind of fanatic animal hater who gets a kick out of killing innocent rabbits in a virtual 3d world?
Why dont you go get a hunting license and start hunting for real prey instead?
You don't like gambleing yet you wasted $60 gambleing on this game being good or not? Guess you didn't play OB or read previews on the game? Yeah, will go down as one of the worse MMO's of this year next to STO and APB.
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Granted, I agree the journey is the reward, but what is the point of having a journey if you are limited in how far you can go until the developers release things 6 months from now? Grind all the professions to 30ish level and wait? You are even capped on how fast you can push the journey by a restricted cap that you have to wait weekly to restore, I imagine that was there to give the game a time sink to provide the devs half a year to develop some actual content. Shame on SE for ripping off its fans in such a way, it isn't 1998 anymore and SE has shown they no longer are in the elite of the game developing world, they are lightyears behind the west in game development and in knowing what the market wants. It isn't a surprise though, the head developer for FF14 by his own confession literally hasn't touched another MMO on the market since FF11 so it is obvious why he is so shortsighted and stuck in his ways. The writing was on the wall, we all were just too hopeful that SE was going to release a good game, myself included.
Actually, I'm not a real big Final Fantasy fan. I've played a lot of them in the past, but only finished one or two. Personally, I think being a Final Fantasy fan may actually be a detrement to your liking FFXIV, because the game certainly doesn't play like any other Final Fantasy game, with the possibile exception of having some resemblance to XI.
No, I think the primary reasons I like XIV is because:
I kinda miss the days when MMORPGs were virtual worlds instead of theme parks. Looking stuff up like I need in a referance like it's a world atlas, instead of being directed from theme park guide to theme park guide, is an awesome respite for me from the typical casual-friendly drivel. FFXIV has a definate virtual worldly vibe that is sorely lacking from many modern titles.
I've been playing computer games for so long that FFXIV's interface hurdle is neigh non-existant to one who has had as much experience navigating game interfaces I have.
Minimal use of instancing. You can see it while progressing through some story chapters, but outside of that, it's all out in the open, which I like. After seeing what instancing did to Star Trek Online and Champions Online, I'm happy to see it being cut down to size.
I like what Square-Enix did to Final Fantasy XI, and am feeling relatively confident we'll see a similar pattern of craftsmanship to Final Fantasy XIV. Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither was Final Fantasy XI released in great condition, we didn't even see it in America until 2 years after release.
I'm far from a fanboy. I have some very good reasons. However, my reasons won't be everyone's reasons. Nobody's are. Consequently, if people don't understand what I see in the game, that is to be expected. Move on, play the games you like playing, don't expect all games to suit you. If they're going to insist that what they enjoy in a game is what everyone wants to enjoy the game, they're the tyrannical hater/fanboy, not me.