I Still believe and have read many times, WoW in itself is a great game, it's the community that brings it down.
SO true.....its the exact reason i quit playing wow (i still think its one of the best games around but i realy am sick of the people in the game dissin other players)......sad but true.
Yeah it's the Playskool aspect of this game that really pisses me off and makes me NOT want to play Cata (im in Beta) Got a lvl 40 paladin and have yet to die not one single time!
You're really questioning why you haven't died in 40 levels as a paladin? Maybe level as a holy priest.
“Blizzard has made their game the MMO equivalent of a Playskool toy.”
This is where you guys who think games are not being dumbed down need to close your eyes and whistle. A four year old can play WoW. Let me say that again…a four year old.
They might as well sell Catacylsm as online creche software.
“Blizzard has made their game the MMO equivalent of a Playskool toy.”
This is where you guys who think games are not being dumbed down need to close your eyes and whistle. A four year old can play WoW. Let me say that again…a four year old.
They might as well sell Catacylsm as online creche software.
The above reaction is why I calledout a few posts above:
"Anyway, the tongue-in-cheek "article" is on par with the rest of mmorpg.com quality: sucky."
Your 4 year old won't down the IIC 25 heroic Lich King and will never ever go to Wrathful Gladiator.
The latter competitive PvP title probably not even in his life time (1 chance in 200.000 players). For the mats: that's a 0.0005% chance the individual can get it ... on skill.
so the "tongue in cheeck" succeeds in what it is supposed to do: let us piss on WOW and Blizzard ; our main selling point and target audiance.
good article in general.. I can see all those points coming to life..
As for me, I'm not even considering coming back.. You touched on one topic that is a major issue with me and others.. The treadmill grind of dungeons and raiding.. The OPEN world is DEAD max level.. The game becomes a lobby instanced MMOG.. Everything that is wrong with WoW is being addressed and corrected by GW2 dynamic event system.. I hope that Arenanet doesn't mess things up.. Good Luck
Actually while the leveling process has been simplified, the raiding process is heading back to the more complex. Current raid strategy is to pull everything and aoe like mad. Cataclysm is going to change that back to the days when you had to use crowd control. Going to be a big change for many who never did any raiding at the 60 level.
Yea but thats just trash mobs bosses now are waaayyyyyy more complex then they were back in the day.
I don't consider Worgen to be Furries, since when did Werewolves been considered to be Furries? Never, true Anthros are pure Anthros, plus these Worgen look awful.
I think it's the new old world that's going to be the main reason why WoW will suck even though WoW sucks already, I think it's about time WoW was put down, the game has had it's day and we should instead move on to better games.
The major problem with WoW is lack of content and the push to be in a treadmill raid guild forever going after the next tier set. As for Cataclysm if you are adventurous you would head to a new server and go 1-85, assuming Blizzard do roll out a couple for that experience, as that will give you the most actual gameplay. Really, though, I think many will head over to SW:TOR next year when it hits, it probably offers a game experience that WoW players can get into without too much pain.
Actually while the leveling process has been simplified, the raiding process is heading back to the more complex. Current raid strategy is to pull everything and aoe like mad. Cataclysm is going to change that back to the days when you had to use crowd control. Going to be a big change for many who never did any raiding at the 60 level.
Yea but thats just trash mobs bosses now are waaayyyyyy more complex then they were back in the day.
I rather doubt that. You only have to coordinate 25 people these days, try doing it with 40! You have no clue how difficult the 40 mans were!
No matter how much people try to come up with ways that CATA will suck, it will still be a great game. If you dnt like it, quit it. it is very simply, you dont have to opose your opinion on other people who will like it.
No matter how much people try to come up with ways that CATA will suck, it will still be a great game. If you dnt like it, quit it. it is very simply, you dont have to opose your opinion on other people who will like it.
This is how I feel with like 95% of the posts on here. I like to play MMO's, I've played WoW, APB, WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, MUD's, EVE, EQ,FFXIV and oh man I know I'm mising a few, and I can honestly say each game brings something interesting to the table for me. If people want to say Cata will suck, fine but at least back it up with a valid opinion other than "Omgz grindfest gearscore casualfest," because that means nothing.
I will be checking out Cata, because I've checked out almost every MMO that's come down the pike recently. I don't know if I'll stick with it until endgame, but we'll see how it does.
EDIT: Also I realize the point of this article was to have some fun. I'm more just responding to the commenter I quoted.
Originally posted by GTwander:
How are you an MMO? Or any of us for that matter?
I say we strike all users from the site for not being MMOs.
I am a little surprised to see people trashing on the idea that kids are really good at wow. First off, teach a 12 year old a console video game and teach me, a 39 year old, a console video game and see who kicks who's butt. I'm betting on the 12 year old. At this point, a lot of adults are probably thinking, "yeah but the game should be mentally more complex than that." Really? Take a 12 year old who's iq = mine and teach us both a programming language - or any language for that matter. Who grasps the complexities quicker and has more success? Again - the 12 year old wins every time. Heck, even for non-computer related games the kids often have the advantage. Ever played Laser Tag with a bunch of adolescents? I used to help run adult and youth mixed leagues and the youth killed - until they inched closer to adulthood. That's when they started getting hit by the natural nerf-hammer.
We adults like to pretend that we can outsmart, outwit, and outplay kids at mmo's even though that doesn't hold true for most other non-mmo activities and certainly doesn't hold true for other activities that involve a computer and some software. I have never been naive to the fact that a large part of my mmo experience, WoW or otherwise, has been shared with youth - and that often those are the best players. For leadership and raid organization I'll take the adult but if I'm looking for unbelievable dps my money's on the 12 year old.
I was pleasantly surprised when I went from Apprentice to full 5 star Elite in under 2 months. I was pleasantly surprised again when I went from Elite to just barely Hardcore in 2 weeks. Apprentice, here I come!
why the Corps are wasting time hiring some stupid adult as programmers? DAMN just put my 12 years KID to Program the softwares and we will make insane amounts of money with his superior knowlegde.
Im sure the can make a rocket a put a foot on mars! 12 years kid for president!!!
No matter how much people try to come up with ways that CATA will suck, it will still be a great game. If you dnt like it, quit it. it is very simply, you dont have to opose your opinion on other people who will like it.
And no matter how much people should actually read the posts/threads they respond to they still won't and we'll continue to have a few laughs.
This expansion's going to be great fun for many folks, of course there are minuses with the pluses, that's true of everything in life, and of course, some folks won't care for it at all.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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well the main problem with WoW is that people cannot find quest hubs, link to the next quest and so on. I seem to be having a particularly hard time without the proper walkthroughs. What I want is a linear straight path to 80 so I dont end up missing a quest hub and screwing up my quest journal like last time where I had to go back a few levels to do quests so i can do higher level quests. That's the thing that makes me most excited about cataclysm. The urge of going back to WoW is stronger than ever now, as my getting lost problem is supposedly going to be solved.
why the Corps are wasting time hiring some stupid adult as programmers? DAMN just put my 12 years KID to Program the softwares and we will make insane amounts of money with his superior knowlegde.
Im sure the can make a rocket a put a foot on mars! 12 years kid for president!!!
I was pleasantly surprised when I went from Apprentice to full 5 star Elite in under 2 months. I was pleasantly surprised again when I went from Elite to just barely Hardcore in 2 weeks. Apprentice, here I come!
I would recruit a kid into my group anyday. THey are more dedicated (usually), have more time on their hands, and are more likely to pwn.
Now my main problem with WoW is FINDING the next quest and being where I'm supposed to be. I'm hoping cataclysm fixes that.
It has gotten challenging due to the fact that you now outlevel zones before you finish the quest chains. WoW is actually very good about leading you to the next hub once you finish an area, it's just that experience gains are now so extreme that there is no reason to finish each area. I tend to think that Cat will fix that, but only time will tell.
I was pleasantly surprised when I went from Apprentice to full 5 star Elite in under 2 months. I was pleasantly surprised again when I went from Elite to just barely Hardcore in 2 weeks. Apprentice, here I come!
End Game is a myth..there is no such thing..If you call running raids over and over for rep or gear endgame , when does it end?..NEVER!
I think a revamped WoW is exactly what the game needs..dont know if its going in the right direction with it , but not all the ideas are bad. Just the lack of ideas. 2 new races is lame in my opinion. Sure the goblins seem kool , and there mount looks awsome. The game could have used a couple of new classes instead if you ask me.
The fact of the matter is...It was whole lot easier to come up with races then classes which goes to show the lack of energy and ideas blizzard put into Cat. For example..(oh i love the worgen race! so im gonna go make a Worgen druid!) When you have already got an 80 druid.Still same old shyt..just new character model to look at.
I do think the revamped areas look really nice though. Like Org for example looks great in my opinion. Some of the class changes may give a feel of somthing difrrrent for a bit but will wear off in a couple of days once you get the hang of it. Then back to same ol WoW.
No matter what mmorpg you play..you will always have your childish players , ninja looters , naked dancers (except WAR) , and your over the top chatters. These are no legit reasons to hate the game and like another.
Blizzard created a solid Mmorpg with out a doubt. Maybe its time is up! Maybe not!
I will probably buy Cat. do to the fact that WoW has a special place in my heart. So i will always play it . Even if its casual play.
The hardcore playing is over though for me. At least on this game.
i would agree with both of u if these kids focused on doing positive things. Not to generalize but the vast majority cant take nothing complex they are only poor souls begging for attention on internet.( chuck norris jokes, trashing talk)
they play wow because its supereasy and colorful like a carnival. they like that, not a bad thing;
healthy cool kids are outside playing and chasing after girls.
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SO true.....its the exact reason i quit playing wow (i still think its one of the best games around but i realy am sick of the people in the game dissin other players)......sad but true.
@Wrender
Grz for doing content 2 levels under your avatar and not entering Battlegrounds.
Anyway, the tongue-in-cheek "article" is on par with the rest of mmorpg.com quality: sucky.
You havent seen FF14 community for sure ... they beat everything ... their niche game is so superior, yet unplayable.
“Blizzard has made their game the MMO equivalent of a Playskool toy.”
This is where you guys who think games are not being dumbed down need to close your eyes and whistle. A four year old can play WoW. Let me say that again…a four year old.
They might as well sell Catacylsm as online creche software.
The above reaction is why I calledout a few posts above:
"Anyway, the tongue-in-cheek "article" is on par with the rest of mmorpg.com quality: sucky."
Your 4 year old won't down the IIC 25 heroic Lich King and will never ever go to Wrathful Gladiator.
The latter competitive PvP title probably not even in his life time (1 chance in 200.000 players). For the mats: that's a 0.0005% chance the individual can get it ... on skill.
so the "tongue in cheeck" succeeds in what it is supposed to do: let us piss on WOW and Blizzard ; our main selling point and target audiance.
Grz mmorpg.com for a "fun" article.
good article in general.. I can see all those points coming to life..
As for me, I'm not even considering coming back.. You touched on one topic that is a major issue with me and others.. The treadmill grind of dungeons and raiding.. The OPEN world is DEAD max level.. The game becomes a lobby instanced MMOG.. Everything that is wrong with WoW is being addressed and corrected by GW2 dynamic event system.. I hope that Arenanet doesn't mess things up.. Good Luck
lol What a first post...
Yea but thats just trash mobs bosses now are waaayyyyyy more complex then they were back in the day.
I don't consider Worgen to be Furries, since when did Werewolves been considered to be Furries? Never, true Anthros are pure Anthros, plus these Worgen look awful.
I think it's the new old world that's going to be the main reason why WoW will suck even though WoW sucks already, I think it's about time WoW was put down, the game has had it's day and we should instead move on to better games.
The major problem with WoW is lack of content and the push to be in a treadmill raid guild forever going after the next tier set. As for Cataclysm if you are adventurous you would head to a new server and go 1-85, assuming Blizzard do roll out a couple for that experience, as that will give you the most actual gameplay. Really, though, I think many will head over to SW:TOR next year when it hits, it probably offers a game experience that WoW players can get into without too much pain.
I rather doubt that. You only have to coordinate 25 people these days, try doing it with 40! You have no clue how difficult the 40 mans were!
LOL @ the idjits who either A: Can't read or B: don't know what facetiousness is....
Good idea for the list and could be fun article, if you didnt randomly choose stupid points that make no sense.
..............troll much?
Collector's editions are scams.
No matter how much people try to come up with ways that CATA will suck, it will still be a great game. If you dnt like it, quit it. it is very simply, you dont have to opose your opinion on other people who will like it.
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This is how I feel with like 95% of the posts on here. I like to play MMO's, I've played WoW, APB, WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, MUD's, EVE, EQ,FFXIV and oh man I know I'm mising a few, and I can honestly say each game brings something interesting to the table for me. If people want to say Cata will suck, fine but at least back it up with a valid opinion other than "Omgz grindfest gearscore casualfest," because that means nothing.
I will be checking out Cata, because I've checked out almost every MMO that's come down the pike recently. I don't know if I'll stick with it until endgame, but we'll see how it does.
EDIT: Also I realize the point of this article was to have some fun. I'm more just responding to the commenter I quoted.
Originally posted by GTwander:
How are you an MMO? Or any of us for that matter?
I say we strike all users from the site for not being MMOs.
I am a little surprised to see people trashing on the idea that kids are really good at wow. First off, teach a 12 year old a console video game and teach me, a 39 year old, a console video game and see who kicks who's butt. I'm betting on the 12 year old. At this point, a lot of adults are probably thinking, "yeah but the game should be mentally more complex than that." Really? Take a 12 year old who's iq = mine and teach us both a programming language - or any language for that matter. Who grasps the complexities quicker and has more success? Again - the 12 year old wins every time. Heck, even for non-computer related games the kids often have the advantage. Ever played Laser Tag with a bunch of adolescents? I used to help run adult and youth mixed leagues and the youth killed - until they inched closer to adulthood. That's when they started getting hit by the natural nerf-hammer.
We adults like to pretend that we can outsmart, outwit, and outplay kids at mmo's even though that doesn't hold true for most other non-mmo activities and certainly doesn't hold true for other activities that involve a computer and some software. I have never been naive to the fact that a large part of my mmo experience, WoW or otherwise, has been shared with youth - and that often those are the best players. For leadership and raid organization I'll take the adult but if I'm looking for unbelievable dps my money's on the 12 year old.
I was pleasantly surprised when I went from Apprentice to full 5 star Elite in under 2 months. I was pleasantly surprised again when I went from Elite to just barely Hardcore in 2 weeks. Apprentice, here I come!
why the Corps are wasting time hiring some stupid adult as programmers? DAMN just put my 12 years KID to Program the softwares and we will make insane amounts of money with his superior knowlegde.
Im sure the can make a rocket a put a foot on mars! 12 years kid for president!!!
And no matter how much people should actually read the posts/threads they respond to they still won't and we'll continue to have a few laughs.
This expansion's going to be great fun for many folks, of course there are minuses with the pluses, that's true of everything in life, and of course, some folks won't care for it at all.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
well the main problem with WoW is that people cannot find quest hubs, link to the next quest and so on. I seem to be having a particularly hard time without the proper walkthroughs. What I want is a linear straight path to 80 so I dont end up missing a quest hub and screwing up my quest journal like last time where I had to go back a few levels to do quests so i can do higher level quests. That's the thing that makes me most excited about cataclysm. The urge of going back to WoW is stronger than ever now, as my getting lost problem is supposedly going to be solved.
Evidently people are starting to agree with you.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=7356353&page=1
I was pleasantly surprised when I went from Apprentice to full 5 star Elite in under 2 months. I was pleasantly surprised again when I went from Elite to just barely Hardcore in 2 weeks. Apprentice, here I come!
I would recruit a kid into my group anyday. THey are more dedicated (usually), have more time on their hands, and are more likely to pwn.
Now my main problem with WoW is FINDING the next quest and being where I'm supposed to be. I'm hoping cataclysm fixes that.
It has gotten challenging due to the fact that you now outlevel zones before you finish the quest chains. WoW is actually very good about leading you to the next hub once you finish an area, it's just that experience gains are now so extreme that there is no reason to finish each area. I tend to think that Cat will fix that, but only time will tell.
I was pleasantly surprised when I went from Apprentice to full 5 star Elite in under 2 months. I was pleasantly surprised again when I went from Elite to just barely Hardcore in 2 weeks. Apprentice, here I come!
End Game is a myth..there is no such thing..If you call running raids over and over for rep or gear endgame , when does it end?..NEVER!
I think a revamped WoW is exactly what the game needs..dont know if its going in the right direction with it , but not all the ideas are bad. Just the lack of ideas. 2 new races is lame in my opinion. Sure the goblins seem kool , and there mount looks awsome. The game could have used a couple of new classes instead if you ask me.
The fact of the matter is...It was whole lot easier to come up with races then classes which goes to show the lack of energy and ideas blizzard put into Cat. For example..(oh i love the worgen race! so im gonna go make a Worgen druid!) When you have already got an 80 druid.Still same old shyt..just new character model to look at.
I do think the revamped areas look really nice though. Like Org for example looks great in my opinion. Some of the class changes may give a feel of somthing difrrrent for a bit but will wear off in a couple of days once you get the hang of it. Then back to same ol WoW.
No matter what mmorpg you play..you will always have your childish players , ninja looters , naked dancers (except WAR) , and your over the top chatters. These are no legit reasons to hate the game and like another.
Blizzard created a solid Mmorpg with out a doubt. Maybe its time is up! Maybe not!
I will probably buy Cat. do to the fact that WoW has a special place in my heart. So i will always play it . Even if its casual play.
The hardcore playing is over though for me. At least on this game.
i would agree with both of u if these kids focused on doing positive things. Not to generalize but the vast majority cant take nothing complex they are only poor souls begging for attention on internet.( chuck norris jokes, trashing talk)
they play wow because its supereasy and colorful like a carnival. they like that, not a bad thing;
healthy cool kids are outside playing and chasing after girls.