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D&D or D&L?

EgoldEgold Member Posts: 74
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I am getting guild wars in two days, and then i am going to play it until dark and light, or dungeons and dragons online. For those of you who like D&D or think the game will be good/better than DnL or, opposite, you think DnL will be better, post your reason n stuff...::::20::

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  • TymoraTymora Member UncommonPosts: 1,295

    I love D&D, I have since I was a little tot.  However, Dark and Light is going to be much different than D&D.

    I think you can look at it this way.  D&L will be something similar to Everquest and WoW, except I am expecting something much, much more complex and involved, with dynamic weather, deep social systems, faction wars, to name a few things.  It is huge in scope compared to many other mmorpgs I know about.

    D&D will be similar in many ways to City of Heroes, I think.  It will focus on the group and will most likely have many instanced zones.  I don't expect there to be a complex world and social system, etc.  I think it will be a faster paced, combat-oriented type of game.  I also think it will be a lot of fun, and hopefully not much of a grind.

    Obviously, I haven't played either of these games, this is just my obvervation based on reading about them.  I think both will be great games, and they will both offer a different experience, which is a good thing, because then I can get them both and have fun with them.  I did vote for Dark and Light, though.  It would be my choice if I had to choose, simply because I love realistic types of systems and large, complex mmorpgs.

  • moonfogmoonfog Member Posts: 979

    I was (still am but stoped playing) in the DnL Beta. And I can tell you in my opinion its not good. Sure the world is amazing, and HUGE but the gameplay is god awful imo.

    I vote for DnD. Seems to be a more classic rpg style. And now with Wizards of the Coast behind them its looking VERY promising indeed. They are planing a more detailed character cusmonization (like AO with putting out stats i hope), other than the normal DING and no stat points to put out. I feel that thats very important in making your character yours and not a clone.

    My 2 cents.

  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194

    D&L definetly.

    D&D or should I call it AC 3.
    I don't like Turbine style, but that s a personal preference.
    I don't think they will be able to recreate the magic of the original D&D, but who knows..........

    Anyway I will look forward D&L and possibly Darkfall, while waiting for Vanguard, which I think will be the answer for all the true RPiers out there.

  • ianubisiianubisi Member Posts: 4,201

    Pointless conjecture since neither game is released nor in open beta. It's impossible to know what state they'll be in when released, let alone whether they'll be released in a comparable timeframe.

  • JulianDracosJulianDracos Member UncommonPosts: 1,528
    DnL.  There is nothing new about D&D.  It is based off of 3.5 rules which have nothing to do with the original game outside of them both having the same name.  WotC ruined a PnP game and I do not like Turbine style of game.  So given these two there is really only one choice. 
  • BilasBilas Member Posts: 78


    Originally posted by moonfog

    I was (still am but stoped playing) in the DnL Beta. And I can tell you in my opinion its not good. Sure the world is amazing, and HUGE but the gameplay is god awful.
    I vote for DnD. Seems to be a more classic rpg style. And now with Wizards of the Coast behind them its looking VERY promising indeed. They are planing a more detailed character cusmonization (like AO with putting out stats i hope), other than the normal DING and no stat points to put out. I feel that thats very important in making your character yours and not a clone.
    My 2 cents.

    Hmm So it is god awful huh?  How come I don't belive you?  I vote for D&L I think by what the 2 games are offering will be my favorite!  I can see people saying well there still in beta but as far as what I want from a game D&L has it.  D&D will have no PvP at least that is what I read and D&D without PvP is not D&D.

    'She just left. She didn't even care enough to cut off my head or set me on fire. I mean, is that too much to ask? You know? Some little sign that she cared?"

  • TranquilityTranquility Member Posts: 171


    Originally posted by ianubisi

    Pointless conjecture since neither game is released nor in open beta. It's impossible to know what state they'll be in when released, let alone whether they'll be released in a comparable timeframe.

    Then the whole hype ratings on this site is useless to. Offcourse you dont KNOW what will be better, but you can put out your personal preference.image
  • StaxicStaxic Member Posts: 145

    I'm worried that D&D won't deliver the D&D magic. It will probably be pretty and all that, but I haven't seen anything to make D&D different from the popular MMORPGS. I don't think there's any real big difference between EQ, EQ2, and D&D. WoW is just more soloable, and less customizable. But neither really advances the gameplay.

    D&D paper was so much fun because the world was the GMs (and groups) imagination. Picking up dwarves and throwing them at traps since the thief died. Pickpocketing every NPC til we had to leave town as fast as we could, and keep going! Designing your own castle once you had enough gold. That was the magic. In a MMO you get stuck with only what is made in th game, not whatever you imagine. So I don't think D&D online is really going to deliver the magic.

     

  • MekkoMekko Member Posts: 2


    Originally posted by moonfog

    I was (still am but stoped playing) in the DnL Beta. And I can tell you in my opinion its not good. Sure the world is amazing, and HUGE but the gameplay is god awful.

    Umm... first of all isn't there an NDA? and second... if it's a beta.... perhaps you should rehtink that statement!! it's a BETA for crying out loud. Of course game play will suck in many aspects, but from what I hear they are redoing the whole game which was why the game was moved to November. Perhaps give it another shot before making an assumption that can change in the last days.
  • tricontricon Member Posts: 141

    I am also trying out Guild wars and personally I am more in favour of getting DnL.image

    DnD was a great game, but personally, I do not think that I would like Turbine style of DnD...image

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  • ianubisiianubisi Member Posts: 4,201

    Originally posted by Tranquility

    Then the whole hype ratings on this site is useless to. Offcourse you dont KNOW what will be better, but you can put out your personal preference.

    I am absolutely of the opinion that the hype meter is completely useless.

    I've been around the block enough times now to know not to lend credence to proposed features, promises, and hyped expectations for MMOGs yet to be released. Until the game is in public beta it is still a work in progress, which may change rather dramatically when released. Thus, to say X will be better than Y before either have taken a more-or-less final shape is misleading and even dangerous.


  • EgoldEgold Member Posts: 74

    Originally posted by ianubisi
    Originally posted by Tranquility

    Then the whole hype ratings on this site is useless to. Offcourse you dont KNOW what will be better, but you can put out your personal preference.

    I am absolutely of the opinion that the hype meter is completely useless.

    I've been around the block enough times now to know not to lend credence to proposed features, promises, and hyped expectations for MMOGs yet to be released. Until the game is in public beta it is still a work in progress, which may change rather dramatically when released. Thus, to say X will be better than Y before either have taken a more-or-less final shape is misleading and even dangerous.


    i think that its the opposite way. The proposed features, promises, and what you can tell from studying about the game is more believable than the beta. The reason? because beta is BETA. It changes quite a bit. The game usually sucks at beta and is changed a ton before the released. Thus, to judge X will be better than Y because of the beta is misleading.

  • ianubisiianubisi Member Posts: 4,201

    Originally posted by Egold

    i think that its the opposite way. The proposed features, promises, and what you can tell from studying about the game is more believable than the beta. The reason? because beta is BETA. It changes quite a bit. The game usually sucks at beta and is changed a ton before the released. Thus, to judge X will be better than Y because of the beta is misleading.

    The amount of change from an open beta to release is almost inconsequential, and this has been true for most MMOG releases on the market. I don't know what hooka you're smoking to think otherwise.

    Suggesting that promises and proposed features are more reliable than an open beta's content is flat out delusional.

  • EgoldEgold Member Posts: 74

    ::::01:: well thanks for that thorough explanation of your reasoning. Btw, DnL is in open beta i think...not sure though...

  • ianubisiianubisi Member Posts: 4,201

    Originally posted by Egold
    ::::01:: well thanks for that thorough explanation of your reasoning. Btw, DnL is in open beta i think...not sure though...

    No, it's still closed beta.

  • moonfogmoonfog Member Posts: 979

    Originally posted by Mekko
    Originally posted by moonfog
    I was (still am but stoped playing) in the DnL Beta. And I can tell you in my opinion its not good. Sure the world is amazing, and HUGE but the gameplay is god awful.Umm... first of all isn't there an NDA? and second... if it's a beta.... perhaps you should rehtink that statement!! it's a BETA for crying out loud. Of course game play will suck in many aspects, but from what I hear they are redoing the whole game which was why the game was moved to November. Perhaps give it another shot before making an assumption that can change in the last days.


    What part of "In My Opinion" didnt you get? Also I did not mention any game content at all. Just my opinion on gameplay (handeling of the game) NOT the game content.
    Man some ppl jump up and down yelling bloody murder without taking time to think first.

    Never heard them redoing the game. But if thats true, then I guess they saw the flaw in how bad it was and wished to fix it. Only time will tell. But again In My Opinion any company that have to redo there product is not a good sign.

  • carvaupar4carvaupar4 Member Posts: 27
    I really like the game Dungeons and Dragons, i play the board game myself. I think that i will play Dark and Light a lot longer than i would D&D though. Dark and Light's graphics astound me and it is more role playing to me.

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  • SaintDaneSaintDane Member Posts: 6

    im all for DnL i personally dont like DnD because of the roll of a die choosin (board game)... and i HATE all turbine games... they ruin the DnD name... i am almost 100% sure that it will be as good as it says it will be but i am also 100% sure that it wont get finished by november... if you REALLY wanna follow the game go to www.dnl.net and if u wanna get the 1 in a billion chance to get in beta sign up there ;) .. and as for the NDA im positive they wont sue u for saying ur in beta.. im sure they will if u sayits god aweful because your revealing the suckyness of the game that doesnt even have npcs implemented (ive seen this in a movie in the gameletters) it has also been in development for 3+ years so i dont think it will be god aweful but i have to say... the dragon shuttle dragon model needs to be changed looks like a a duck got smacked in the face with a sledge hammer

  • FerretrodeoFerretrodeo Member UncommonPosts: 29
    I think I'll end up playing DnD. I played AC for a few years, quit, went back, and quit again. IF turbine can keep it interesting for the higher lvl characters I think it will be a very good game.
  • jackman11118jackman11118 Member Posts: 399


    Originally posted by Egold




    Originally posted by ianubisi



    Originally posted by Tranquility

    Then the whole hype ratings on this site is useless to. Offcourse you dont KNOW what will be better, but you can put out your personal preference.

    I am absolutely of the opinion that the hype meter is completely useless.

    I've been around the block enough times now to know not to lend credence to proposed features, promises, and hyped expectations for MMOGs yet to be released. Until the game is in public beta it is still a work in progress, which may change rather dramatically when released. Thus, to say X will be better than Y before either have taken a more-or-less final shape is misleading and even dangerous.



    i think that its the opposite way. The proposed features, promises, and what you can tell from studying about the game is more believable than the beta. The reason? because beta is BETA. It changes quite a bit. The game usually sucks at beta and is changed a ton before the released. Thus, to judge X will be better than Y because of the beta is misleading.

    sigh. promises? heres a story for you, I started looking at WoW way before open beta. the battlegrounds hero classes and all that good juicy stuff they promised got me hooked to it. i even bought the collectors edition (which is collecting dust right now, 20$ if you want it image )

    promises are balogne, ive given up on them. they make you thing a game is something it isnt going to be untill you pay 15$ a month for months for them to put it in.

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