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I Like This Game
Token1337Guy
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Right, so, like the topic title says, I'm fond of this game. Maybe it's because I didn't play back before all of these new changes I see a lot of people talking about. Maybe it's because I never got used to 200 vs 200 person battles. But I think, even if I had, I couldn't deny that this game brings something really special to the table.
It's hard for me to place it, really. Something about logging in, choosing a side, and joining a fight where you can feel like you're making a difference. Perhaps it's because the thought of an FPS game where every little match actually counts. It's not like a Counter-Strike or Team Fortress match in that whichever side wins or loses at a town actually gains something. I guess you could say that ultimately it's just one long, gigantic match, but... that's what draw me to it, I think. Even with numbers as low as 60 vs 60, there are few - if any - other FPS games that offer matches that big in a persistent world.
I don't know what drew me to post this, really. Maybe I wanted to see a positive thread. I like Battleground Europe, despite its flaws, and I suppose that's all that counts when it comes to me. It's my opinion, and I don't mean to force it on anybody.
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For some reason I read half of your post in Morgan Freeman's voice..
I really wish you lots of fun in the game - and hopefully many other players are thinking the same like you. The game need lots more players - unfortunatly i´ve enjoyed the pre TOE times, therefore i don´t find much fun in game yet.
I hope you and many others will stay for long in game and don´t let it die - the idea of the game is still unbeaten!
bump!
It does read better that way. Thanks!
Been thinking of trying this game but not sure how much downtime there is in it.
Downtime isn´t an issue in this game - there is usually a schedueled weekly server-maintenance which approximately is 30 mins or so.
Usually during a campaign the servers are running through (except the maintenance) - after a campaign is decided, there is a short downtime when the game went into intermission (all equipment unlocked for all ranks) and another downtime at the end of intermission (for resetting the frontline and eventually installing another patch).
As much as i sound critical in other topic, but honestly - downtimes is nothing to complain about in BGE.
By downtime, I mean sitting around without any combat. IE. Downtime = could be boring. Therefore, don't play the game.
You hardly ever sit around waiting for combat, you might spend some time getting to combat though.
But usually that is the best way to arrive at the scene of action, it lets you build situation awarness and lets you live longer, have better missions and generally get more kills.
One example can be to arrive to a town being fought over as a pilot, you would typically have taken off from the nearest airfield.
Will take you a little time to get there, but the longer it takes you the more altitude you get (typically), the more altitude you get the longer you live (typically)
Can also be arriving at a town having spawned a tank from a town behind, it will let you have a lot more options, and will let you arrive to the scene with total awarness of where you are in relation to your enemies etc. etc...
If you so wish you can also just spawn into the thick of things, but that way you usually dont know what hit you when you die the first time.
Downtime = no combat/boring??
Well, excuse me pls but spawning into a camped spawn is the last thing i would say thats "fun".
You can go into battle faster than not - but you have to learn using your tools. You want action fast, then read the map before you sapwn in, because the fast action doesn´t comes everywhere you spawn - you have to spawn where the action is. There are plenty oportunities - just look for a DOed town (eventually contested) with double / double EWS and spawn in there. You will have much more fast action than you will ever can handle
If thats still not enough, enable the AWS grids on your map and look for such a town (DOed, contested with heavy EWS) and one or more red squares (AWS-warnings) close to that town (for spawning in under Air-Quake) - if you still will claim - not enough action, then sir you maybe are one of the notorioused griefer (supply-waster) the game will ever see.
Having too much of this action is what - just a silly shooter which doesn´t require any brain to play and not worth to spend just a single cent for that.
Freddy - in answer to your question, there is action to be found if you are looking for it. Recent additions to the game have increased access to Infantry fighting and intensity that has led to good fights.
When i first started playing WWIIOL 7 years ago I had tons of time and few commitments. So I would log on for an evening or afternoon, guard a Firebase or town and just chat with squad members. Nowadays I have less time but the game still caters for the hour or so a night I can on occasion throw at it - so don't be put off by worries about not finding the action.
As Pauker says sometimes the enemy can get a bit too close (too MUCH action!) but thats just one small negative point to the many pluses I see in the game. So I'd say its worth your while dipping your toes in.....
Having not played this game and only hearing rumors I heard it is unfriendly to new players and too much sitting around waiting for action (don't take that as literal). Think I am going to pass on it.
Okay, compared to the past (years) when i was a "greentag" - indeed there is something different (but its up to you to "judge" it)
I can only tell from my memories what i´ve noticed during my first days in BGE before 5 years from now:
Players had "more time" than today ----as a greentag i was often walking (inf) to where i thought there is a battle - almost every vehicle (except the once they cannot transport inf - scoutcars) stopped and asked me : "Need a ride"? / or / "Hop on"
Same when pushing a gun - trucks always asked does i want to get towed. (you still see that in game quite often)
But picking up "Greentags" indeed was much more comon before some years ago. It doesn´t mean, players in the past was more "Newbie-friendly" than players now - thats not the case, but the game have changed (to help more the Greentags with changing a lot in game aka. MSP´s now FRUs, Trainingmodules and much more stuff) - the problem is, with all that help you can get in game now without depending on another player, unfortunatly other players doesn´t care now for greentags (because there is "enough" automatic help in game already)
A side effect of the TOEs and brigade stacking and the resulting disapearing of manual supply/~cut was centering the fights much more to spawnpoints, reducing the number of AOs did the same - just concentrate as much as possible players into a single area - Thats, because "new players cannot find a fight" ! So it is just "wasted playtime" to sneak around with one or two comrades and go hunting supply-cutters or doing other stuff away from the center of battles.
But exactly that "low action" areas - compared to heavy fights in towns - as there was the possibility to find fights few vs. few - enabled players to spend time for explaining the game and how to do thing to new comrades; it hardly can be done in the heat of a heavy battle. Thats the main reason, why it seems, players aren´t "Newbfriendly" as it was before.
No, - the game become more "Newbfriendly" and forced players to become more "Newbunfriendly" at the same time - with the same changes they´ve made in game. It wasn´t a sudden change in playstyle, more a "sneaking" process.
As much a the game started to help new players finding battles, getting in fights and stuff, the players don´t depended that much on each other - and thats why teamplay mostly was killed.
What we had in the past with teamplay, that we have today with automatism (MSPs, FRUs, Brig-rotation, AWS etc)
But you cannot say its "unfriendly" to new players now - thats not true. In the past - does you know how hard it was to get into a DD-captains rank? It took you at least 2 -3 years; there wasn´t naval inf to play with (and get naval points)
It also was much more difficult to gain rank in air than now.
It was harder for new players in the past (by far) than today - so the game absolutly become much more "Newbfriendly" - but lost lots of long term players for that changes.
We have a very friendly and helpfull playerbase.
The game certainly can be difficult and bewildering for new players.
But there is a help channel that experienced players like myself monitor at all times, where we give impartial advice and help. There's also a group of trainers that help new players to the game regardless of side. We actively seek out 'green tags' and offer assistance in showing them the basics of the game and get them killed in all sorts of interesting ways. Jumping out of a plane as a stick of 20+ paratroopers is always popular.....until they see the tracer fire coming up towards them.
The player base is the best I have ever experienced in any game community. Lots of mature people who understand the value of teamwork.
Games have a powerful impact on our emotions. Most games are like a sugar rush, battleground is like going to the store, buying your food, cooking a great meal, and eating it with fantastic company.
I dont think I have ever heard someone say the word "noob", "rage quit", or are constantly saying "go!" in this game. Players of this game have to have an attention span and be able to work at it. But if you get good at this game, especially as a leader, all other games seem like kids play, bar EVE.
randomly read your post and just would like to let you know that dynamic spawns just went into play, all of you guys hating being spawn camped just got a christmas present.
Exactly. Not every mission leader has digested the concept that their primary role is to keep the fru safe either by defense or constantly moving it.
Couldn't agree more
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The help channel have been buzzing with new F2Players asking for help and a lot of veterans rising to the task - been really nice to see
Ye dont be a afraid to ask any question you might have in the help channel, like Szy said, alot of ppl on that channel that will help guide you and answer any question you might have.
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