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  • jabari800jabari800 Member Posts: 9

    Nobody can ever reach Max lvl in Lineage2 in 100 days - only a hardcore bot party can do that, and only a very very very very good working supported one.

    (Just had to make this clear)

    I love MMO`s - why dont they love me?

  • lhsmithlhsmith Member Posts: 3

    hi im looking for a game which is a MMORPG tatic party game. can anyone suggest?

    enjoy MMORPG:)

  • Zer0ViviZer0Vivi Member Posts: 3

    I didn't know where else to ask this, but is there a place I can advertise an MMORPG at?? - Thanks

     

  • A1D3NA1D3N Member UncommonPosts: 276

    this list needs updating abit.

    somewhere on the site m8 im sure u can mail the staff and tell them about a game and they will add it for u

    Currently Playing:
    ...... :(

  • deadmansfurydeadmansfury Member Posts: 3

    Hi, i'm looking for a new MMORPG, due to my last one banned my account for no reason... i actually have emails that say it wasn't my fault that they just screwed up my account and now i can't play anymore... sry... oh btw Rappelz from Gpotato is a great game to play with an expanded lvl cap, interesting quests though that end at lvl 90... so its basically a steady constant grind to 120... graphics are wonderful and game/skills play is great, though the one great draw back to this game if you come to any problems in game play or anything asside from the item shop where money is conserned, the GM's / Support team on this particular game won't really care... I've found in the last 5 and 1/2 years of playing this game that if it doesn't benefit them as a company, but only benefits the players,  the support team / Gala-Labs won't care / help you to get you back... But this is just my experiance... but i've heard this from others aswell... Really good game, but bad support team/gm's that don't really care one way or the other... So yeah i'm looking for a new MMORPG... would like to get into one like Aion or Rappelz something to that nature though free to play, with item mall and such if there is such a kool game out there please let me know...

  • XunejoXunejo Member UncommonPosts: 22

    AMAZING post. I've recently left "the world" of warcraft, and these steps helped me find a new game: D&D online

  • sergel02sergel02 Member Posts: 1

    I play WoW, but I'm afraid of playing another only because I may get addicted to it lol. Right now Guild Wars 2 and Rift look good to me. I really want to find an MMo with a lot of character creation selection. 

  • anigousanigous Member UncommonPosts: 113

    I'd disagree with this list being helpful, but I've probably played all of the MMOs too, curses.

     

    Why can't there be more MMORPGs so I can spend endless nights playing horrible games and then whining about them on some forum?

    -With utmost sincerity, Anigous :-)

    "i have a lvl 26 maplestory warrior lvl 9 asda story archer and a adventure quest mage lvl 15 and my xfire is my bro's"

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    Since when did Guildwars needs a powerful computer? You can run it on a P3 and you could even max it out on my old cheap crap HP laptop.

    Besides that, good list OP. The grind time is useful for people looking for something new. :)

  • exionenexionen Member Posts: 56

    Not sure if this is mentioned before, hadn't the urge to read all the comments.

    Why isn't Aion on the list? Since the 2.0 patch it is totally manageble to play, and the 2.5 releasing

    in Korea 26th January with alot of awaited changes, besides the ones in 2.0 and 2.1. 2.1 was mainly changing the lootdrop so gg(goldgear) droped more frequently. And stuff used for crafting and such.

    However, Lotro should also be moved to f2p with option of sub/itemstore. Also Everquest2 have an f2p version now.

     

    Furthermore, awesome list for users who want to either change game or test mmo in general.

  • paps26paps26 Member Posts: 24

    This sticky thread is very informative. Got to check some of the games listed. I'm not a hard core gamer so I guess this is a good way to start to be one. :)

  • AkechtaAkechta Member Posts: 219

    Originally posted by V_Repoman_V

    I wanted to add that RuneScape takes far longer than 100 days to reach the level cap.

    In 3 years of major grind on 3 accts, my highest is a level 72.

    all of my accts are pures, but i would estimate achieving max combat level 126 at about a 1-year grind.

    2 of the 7 combat stats needed to achieve level 126 require tons of in-game money to train to 99, so non-combat stats must also be trained for a realistic shot at max level.

    Just my 2 cents as a longtime runescape grindie

    Agreed. It took me 3 months of grinding 8-12 hours a day to get one level to maximum. 90 days for one skill cap. And considering there are about 30 skills, and the one I did being one of the easiest (mining), with the hardest taking a whole year of hardcore grind, I'd say move Runescapes grind-to-cap from 100 days to about 50 years (I'm serious). There are more than skills that need to be maxed aswell, to reach the cap. There are very complex quests, each one takes maybe 30 minutes to 2 days to finish, and there are hundred of them.

    And after the skill cap comes the XP cap. To max a skill level you need 13,000,000 XP, to max the XP in that skill you'll need 200,000,000 XP.

    So yeah. Runescape is for serious Grindles.

  • QazzQazz Member Posts: 577

    Originally posted by exionen

    Not sure if this is mentioned before, hadn't the urge to read all the comments.

    Why isn't Aion on the list? Since the 2.0 patch it is totally manageble to play, and the 2.5 releasing

     

    The OP was last edited in October of 2008. Aion was released in September of 09.

  • janitorfishjanitorfish Member Posts: 1

    Originally posted by Loke666

    Since when did Guildwars needs a powerful computer? You can run it on a P3 and you could even max it out on my old cheap crap HP laptop.

    Besides that, good list OP. The grind time is useful for people looking for something new. :)

    really? no need for me to upgrade then. I still don't have any budget to upgrade my PC (yup still using a crappy P3)

    any more games that don't eat too much resources? cartoony graphics is ok for me (when i say cartoony i dont mean crappy)

  • GajariGajari Member Posts: 984

    Say what?

     

    Guild Wars max level in 2 days, then Dark Age of Camelot in 3 days? DAoC takes way longer than GW, not just one day..

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    Originally posted by Gajari

    Say what?

    Guild Wars max level in 2 days, then Dark Age of Camelot in 3 days? DAoC takes way longer than GW, not just one day..

    Guildwars max in 2 days is not unlikely as long as he means Factions and Nightfall. Prophesis takes longer, but GW is not about levels anyways.

    DaoC in 1 day longer than GW do however take a lot of help with poweleveling from the local guild, if it even is possible.

    I don't see the point at all to measure the time it takes to level, either you are having fun or you don't. If I spend a year or 3 days leveling matters little to me as long as I have a good time when I log on my game.

  • LashleyLashley Member UncommonPosts: 587

    I'm looking for a game with role playing, maybe where you don't need to level but can go to taverns and visit others, go 'hunting', etc

  • nervelessnerveless Member Posts: 2

    thank you for this sticky!

     

    if anyone can help recommend me and MMO's, please let me know! i prefer it to be free at the moment, haha- unless there's a game that's worth spending $ on.

     

    i've tried WoW and requiem... I was extremely addicted to FFXI and quit less than a year ago, after i got my relic/bravura to be exact. i just lost interest in it because abyssea is pure shit... so anything that's like FFXI would be kind of cool i guess. i'm looking forward to tera online though. (:

     

    also, at the moment im downloading guild wars free trial.

  • Can you update LOTRO?

     

    It is now free to play, item mall and subscription (all in one). Note that it is very hard to finish the game with free to play, but with less money you still get a lot.

  • MatheodamonMatheodamon Member Posts: 26

    Hi guys,, just new here.. I jsut saw the current new and top mmo released which is Rift.. how good is this game? anyone already tried it? 

  • EndDreamEndDream Member Posts: 1,152

    Originally posted by Matheodamon

    Hi guys,, just new here.. I jsut saw the current new and top mmo released which is Rift.. how good is this game? anyone already tried it? 

    I think its a lot of fun.. but its not for everyone

    Remember Old School Ultima Online

  • brockoakbrockoak Member Posts: 4

    Try DC online, I assure you this is the best game ever. You can grind here and reach high level in no time even if your a casual player. This is the best MMO the year has ever released. If you want me to pick from the list you you posted i suggest that you must try Guild Wars ^____^

  • PragmaticaPragmatica Member Posts: 2

    Yea, but what is there to do in DCUO at end game besides running a handful of instances over and over again? Is there something to collect? Can I get achievents or titles?

     

    I played the trial and I really liked it, but I want a game that I can enjoy for years. Is DCUO that game? 

  • AkaroniaAkaronia Member Posts: 138

    Originally posted by Netzoko

    The Unofficial "What MMO To Play" Thread!

    (This is a work in progress. Feel free to post ideas or corrections, I know I miss things or make a mistakes)

    Greetings! I speak to you today as a man who has played literally every MMO out there, and has the honesty and condensing skills to bring you a MMORPG list with all the basic information you need to know. We all can agree that trying to find even the most basic answers about game's is hard because the companies only include the uberdooper features. I aim to keep the list as unopinionated as possible. I am also only including current MMO states. For example, pre-NGE SWG won't be taken into account for it's current game state.

     

    So, here you have it, The Unofficial "What MMO Should I Play?" Thread! Use this to compare features without digging around.

     Additions from Taera in blue :)

     

    Section 1: Grind

    _________________________________________________________________

    One of the first things an MMO seeker asks if how much of a grind the game is. Below is a basic list of the newer MMOs and the time is takes to reach level cap in a hardcore setting. Casual play will be longer. It gives a comparison of the game's grind status. Keep in mind, these times are hardcore grinding.

    Have a game to add? Post a reply! 

    Section 2: PvP

    _________________________________________________________________

    PvP is horrid to some, and everything to others. Below is the breakdown based upon PvP rulesets, rewards, and penalties. Sections not listed have no PVP.

    Non-Faction PvP (Kill Anyone.)

    EVE Online, Ultima Online, RuneScape, Guild Wars, Lineage II, Fury, Age of Conan

    Faction PvP

    World of Warcraft, EverQuest 2, City of Heroes / Villains, Star Wars Galaxies, Lord of the Rings Online, Warhammer, Pirates of the Burning Sea

    Full Looting

    EVE Online, RuneScape, Pirates of the Burning Sea

    Arena / Instanced Objective Based PvP

    Guild Wars, World of Warcraft, EverQuest 2, City of Heroes / Villains, Fury, Final Fantasy XI, Lord of the Rings Online, Warhammer

    Open World Objective Based PvP

    Dark Age of Camelot, Warhammer, Pirates of the Burning Sea

    Open/Free World PvP (Can be attacked anywhere by anyone)

    EVE Online, RuneScape, Lineage II, Pirates of the Burning Sea

    Have a game to add? Post a reply! 

    Note that some games have specific server rulesets, I.E. the Zek server on EverQuest has Open/Free World PvP

     

    Section 3: PvE

    _________________________________________________________________

    This next section outlines the PvE aspects such as soloing, raiding, grouping.

    End-Game Raiding (Nothing to do with necessity, but rather whether a game has the feature)

    World of Warcraft, EverQuest 2, EverQuest, Lineage II, Final Fantasy XI, RF Online

    Grouping Instances

    World of Warcraft, EverQuest 2, EverQuest, RF Online, Guild Wars, Dark Age of Camelot, Lord of the Rings Online, City of Heroes / Villains, Warhammer, Age of Conan

    Solo Ability (Ability to level alone effectively)

    City of Heroes / Villains, Dark Age of Camelot, EVE Online, EverQuest 2, Final Fantasy XI, Guild Wars, Lord of the Rings Online, Ultima Online, Vanguard, Star Wars Galaxies, RuneScape, Tabula Rasa, World of Warcraft, Pirates of the Burning Sea, Age of Conan, Warhammer

     Have a game to add? Post a reply! 

    Section 4: Crafting

    _________________________________________________________________

    Here, I have broken up games depending on the depth of the crafting system.

    Has Crafting (Of some sort)

    City of Heroes / Villains, Dark Age of Camelot, EverQuest, Final Fantasy XIGuild Wars, Lineage II, Lord of the Rings Online, Ultima Online, World of Warcraft, Tabula Rasa, Warhammer

    Deep Crafting (Widely considered to have the deepest craft systems)

    EVE Online, EverQuest 2, Star Wars Galaxies, Vanguard, A Tale in the Desert, Pirates of the Burning Sea

    Have a game to add? Post a reply!  

    Section 5: Performance / Graphics

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    Not everyone has a supercomputer. Below is a breakdown into sections of different tiers of system needs. They are ordered from "Very powerful PC needed" to "Weak PC needed." These are all based on graphics settings at "high." This list is also good for showing the graphical quality of a game.

    Zomg Expensive Computer

    Vanguard, Age of Conan

    Very Powerful

    EverQuest 2, Fury, Warhammer

    Powerful

    EVE Online, Guild Wars, Lord of the Rings Online, RF Online, Pirates of the Burning Sea

    Average

    City of Heroes / Villains, Final Fantasy XI, Lineage II, Star Wars Galaxies, World of Warcraft, D&D Online, Archlord, Horizons, Knight Online

    Below Average

    Anarchy Online, Asheron's Call, Dark Age of Camelot, EverQuest, Shadowbane

    Lol. Upgrade Plz

    Ultima Online, MapleStory, RuneScape

    Have a game to add? Post a reply!  

    Section 6: Difficulty

     _________________________________________________________________

    This section deals with the learning curve associated with a game, as well as it's complexity. A complex game will have a lot of information to learn for a newcomer, and will be more difficult to master. A simpler game will be easy to learn and play right off the bat as a newbie.

    Very Difficult

    EVE Online

    Tough

    Anarchy Online, Asheron's Call, Dark Age of Camelot, Ultima Online, Lineage II, RF Online, EverQuest, Pirates of the Burning Sea

    Average

    EverQuest 2, Final Fantasy XI, Guild Wars, Star Wars Galaxies, Vanguard,D&D Online, Knight Online, Fury, Age of Conan, Warhammer

    Easy

    City of Heroes / Villains, Lord of the Rings Online, MapleStory, World of Warcraft, RuneScape

    Have a game to add? Post a reply!  

    Section 7: My Personal Recommendations _________________________________________________________________

    Sometimes the simple facts arn't enough. This last section is a recommendation list based on typical MMO searchers.

    "I'm looking for a game with lots of PvE grouping"

    There are no MMOs where people always group no matter what. However, there are games where the players tend to group a lot. Below are games where the chat channels almost always have LFG spam.

    Recommendation: Everquest 2, World of Warcraft, FFXI

    "I'm looking for an MMO without PKs and gankers all the time. PvP annoys me"

    Here are my recommendations for an MMO without open PvP, meaning you can walk around safely if you please.

    Recommendation: LOTRO, EQ2 (RP/PvE server), FFXI

    "I want a game with crafting that matters, not some sidestep in the game that's ignored."

    Many people want a game where people actually need crafted goods. Below is my suggestion for games where crafted goods are widely used as much, if not more than looted items.

    Recommendation: EQ2, EVE, UO, VG , FFXI, Pirates of the Burning Sea

    "I'm looking for a PvP-based game with set objectives"

    Here's my suggestion for PvPers who dislike world PvP, but like the idea of working on objectives.

    Recommendation: GW, DAoC, WoW, Fury, Warhammer

     

    "I want total PvP freedom where I can attack anyone when I want"

    I will also note the looting rules for my suggestion here.

    Recommendation: EVE (Full looting), L2 (no looting), Runescape (Full looting)

     

    "I'm looking for a game that's a total sandbox"

    Recommendation: EVE, UO, SWG

     

    "I want direction in my gaming, I don't want to wonder aimlessly through the world"

    Recommendation: EQ1, EQ2, CoH, GW, D&D,  L2, LOTRO, VG, WoW, WAR, AoC

     

    I hope you found my guide helpful in finding an MMO. Again, this is only the first version, updates will be made regularily.

     

    Good luck, and happy gaming.

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    Added by Taera:

    Great post, NetZoko!  Another popular variable for users seeking games is the payment plan.  Thus I'm adding on:

     

    Section 8: Payment Plan

     _________________________________________________________________

    This section deals with the payment options for MMOs.

    Free to Play

    RuneScape, Anarchy Online, RF Online

    Item Shop/Optional Subscription

    MapleStory, Dungeon Runners, Most F2P Games

    Monthly Fee

    City of Heroes / Villains, Lord of the Rings Online, World of Warcraft, Dark Age of Camelot, Lineage II, EverQuest 2, EverQuest, Final Fantasy XI , Vanguard, Tabula Rasa, EVE Online, Warhammer, Age of Conan, Pirates of the Burning Sea

    Box/Download/Account Creation Fee



    City of Heroes / Villains, World of Warcraft, Lord of the Rings Online, Lineage II, EverQuest 2, EverQuest, Final Fantasy XI , Vanguard, Tabula Rasa

    NetZoko, please feel free to update this section :)

     edit, Netzoko: 10-18-08: long needed update, added newly released, mainstream games

     

        I only have one question.  Since when did EQ2 get put in with newer MMOs?  Is that just becausae they still keep up with the newer ones even after 12 years running?  I thought this was rather interesting that is got put in as newer.  :)  It is most definately imo one of the greatest games ever made and if you are burnt and have never tried it I would most definately recommend it.  Even if you reach max level in a short time you still have a lot to go back to and do and they have a mentoring system in which I have not seen before, as well as benefits for all even high levels when they mentor.  If I had to say there was a game that has included everyone in it it would be this one.  :)

  • ZverofaustZverofaust Member Posts: 4

    I'd like to see Eve Online in the "Grind" section, with the result being:

    Eve Online (Undetermined -- Nobody has yet reached maximum level after 8 years)

    :)

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