this game is a big disappointment

paravion · April 2005

why?

its very mediocre. i can't believe i waste money on this one. i must say the free rpg called runescape http://www.runescape.com is better than this blizzard mirage. as you level, its all some lame-ass questing along with buying new skills. NO JOKE. see if for yourself and you'll be disappointed like me. the economy is not player driven. its NPC driven. at low levels, you sell your stuff to NPC vendors, how boring is that? and later at a higher level, you will usually sell the godly weapons, rare recipes, and loots they drop to other players via auctions. the world is a complete toy as they claimed. it is a toy and only 1 because i am sick of playing with only 1 toy while other rpgs often more than 1 toy in a world. it's 80% pve and 20% pvp. and the classes are not balanced, some classes like rogues, hunters, warlocks are unwanted and some are wanted. some classes are overpowered. you will see that the population is mostly made up of rogues, mages, and priests, while the druids, warlocks, and hunters are outnumbered. some people claimed this game is not going to last long. at first i was skeptic, but now after seeing it for myself i realize they were not bluffing. it's a true as it can be. i was bored afte playing a week. even the free rpg runescape dev had a better grasp of the rpg genre. if you like to do repeatitive questing with NPC and no player interactions, then this game is totally for you. its just a waste of your time.

ajaxx · April 2005

LOL. ::::02::

r0hn · April 2005

Feel better paravion. Everyone is entitled to their opinion even if some might disagree.

jackman11118 · May 2005

Originally posted by paravion

why?
its very mediocre. i can't believe i waste money on this one. i must say the free rpg called runescape http://www.runescape.com is better than this blizzard mirage. as you level, its all some lame-ass questing along with buying new skills. NO JOKE. see if for yourself and you'll be disappointed like me. the economy is not player driven. its NPC driven. at low levels, you sell your stuff to NPC vendors, how boring is that? and later at a higher level, you will usually sell the godly weapons, rare recipes, and loots they drop to other players via auctions. the world is a complete toy as they claimed. it is a toy and only 1 because i am sick of playing with only 1 toy while other rpgs often more than 1 toy in a world. it's 80% pve and 20% pvp. and the classes are not balanced, some classes like rogues, hunters, warlocks are unwanted and some are wanted. some classes are overpowered. you will see that the population is mostly made up of rogues, mages, and priests, while the druids, warlocks, and hunters are outnumbered. some people claimed this game is not going to last long. at first i was skeptic, but now after seeing it for myself i realize they were not bluffing. it's a true as it can be. i was bored afte playing a week. even the free rpg runescape dev had a better grasp of the rpg genre. if you like to do repeatitive questing with NPC and no player interactions, then this game is totally for you. its just a waste of your time.

agreed, but some people still cant get over the fact that since i can hit 60 in a week, the game MUST be good! so they dont ever quit. i cant even get my friend to quit. everytime i try and tell him something is wrong with the game he laughs at me, when i laugh inside becuase he pays money for this average game. its not "bad" but its not near as good as others. but, since it is easy to level, people still love it.

Jorev · May 2005

Yeah ok whatever.

sifa · May 2005

Originally posted by paravion

why?
its very mediocre. i can't believe i waste money on this one. i must say the free rpg called runescape http://www.runescape.com is better than this blizzard mirage. as you level, its all some lame-ass questing along with buying new skills. NO JOKE. see if for yourself and you'll be disappointed like me. the economy is not player driven. its NPC driven. at low levels, you sell your stuff to NPC vendors, how boring is that? and later at a higher level, you will usually sell the godly weapons, rare recipes, and loots they drop to other players via auctions. the world is a complete toy as they claimed. it is a toy and only 1 because i am sick of playing with only 1 toy while other rpgs often more than 1 toy in a world. it's 80% pve and 20% pvp. and the classes are not balanced, some classes like rogues, hunters, warlocks are unwanted and some are wanted. some classes are overpowered. you will see that the population is mostly made up of rogues, mages, and priests, while the druids, warlocks, and hunters are outnumbered. some people claimed this game is not going to last long. at first i was skeptic, but now after seeing it for myself i realize they were not bluffing. it's a true as it can be. i was bored afte playing a week. even the free rpg runescape dev had a better grasp of the rpg genre. if you like to do repeatitive questing with NPC and no player interactions, then this game is totally for you. its just a waste of your time.

The is a lot more player interactions once you reach the mid 20's. My level 30 druid has beaten 2 level 32 shamens and a level 34 warrior so the game is not as unbalanced as some might think. A lot of druids are newbs and decide to pvp in caster form and then complain when the get the newby face bashed in my melee class or get all their mana burned away by a Priest of Warlock. Im not saying that victory in pvp is based on how well you play your classs but its definately a huge factor in deciding who comes out victorious.

My advice to you is to stay away from overpopulated classes like rogues and makes some friends and you would have a blast.

gargantroo · May 2005

You hit 60 in a week? That means:
1. You have no life and played it straight w/o sleep
or...
2. Your lying

and seriously.. how can you even say Runescape is better? As far as Im concerned, that game is pushing it's limits by considering itself a game.

Ramonski7 · May 2005

[quote]Originally posted by paravion
[b]why?
its very mediocre. i can't believe i waste money on this one. i must say the free rpg called runescape [url=http://www.runescape.com] is better than this blizzard mirage. as you level, its all some lame-ass questing along with buying new skills. NO JOKE. see if for yourself and you'll be disappointed like me. the economy is not player driven. its NPC driven. at low levels, you sell your stuff to NPC vendors, how boring is that? and later at a higher level, you will usually sell the godly weapons, rare recipes, and loots they drop to other players via auctions. the world is a complete toy as they claimed. it is a toy and only 1 because i am sick of playing with only 1 toy while other rpgs often more than 1 toy in a world. it's 80% pve and 20% pvp. and the classes are not balanced, some classes like rogues, hunters, warlocks are unwanted and some are wanted. some classes are overpowered. you will see that the population is mostly made up of rogues, mages, and priests, while the druids, warlocks, and hunters are outnumbered. some people claimed this game is not going to last long. at first i was skeptic, but now after seeing it for myself i realize they were not bluffing. it's a true as it can be. i was bored afte playing a week. even the free rpg runescape dev had a better grasp of the rpg genre. if you like to do repeatitive questing with NPC and no player interactions, then this game is totally for you. its just a waste of your time.[/b][/quote]

Enough already! I mean just because you suck at leveling, suck at questing, can't get a group, simple-minded in your views, suck at PvPing, failed to pick a class not already heavily saturated and have the attention span of a hyperactive chimp does not mean that everyone here is failing to get out of WoW what you obviously have not. Get over it and next time you decide to offer some "helpful" feedback to the WoW community here, please be a little more tactful in your approach. Or risk being blown off as another big-mouth troll who obviously spent his last 49.99 to buy WoW and now has to wait another week (while bad-mouthing WoW) to scrape up enough money for GW....

And to Jackman..... you are obviously stretching the truth in the hopes of trying to "dumb-down" WoW. I mean really who cares how fast you can level but yourself? Because in the end the only one who will hear you applauding yourself into a self-induced state of uber nerd-like nirvana is guess..........yourself. Congrats Sparky, now go grab another 6-pack of Hillbilly Piss and a fresh box of Cheez-its and go get a copy of GW for round 2....pfffft.

Arkio · May 2005

Originally posted by paravion

why?
its very mediocre. i can't believe i waste money on this one. i must say the free rpg called runescape http://www.runescape.com is better than this blizzard mirage. as you level, its all some lame-ass questing along with buying new skills. NO JOKE. see if for yourself and you'll be disappointed like me. the economy is not player driven. its NPC driven. at low levels, you sell your stuff to NPC vendors, how boring is that? and later at a higher level, you will usually sell the godly weapons, rare recipes, and loots they drop to other players via auctions. the world is a complete toy as they claimed. it is a toy and only 1 because i am sick of playing with only 1 toy while other rpgs often more than 1 toy in a world. it's 80% pve and 20% pvp. and the classes are not balanced, some classes like rogues, hunters, warlocks are unwanted and some are wanted. some classes are overpowered. you will see that the population is mostly made up of rogues, mages, and priests, while the druids, warlocks, and hunters are outnumbered. some people claimed this game is not going to last long. at first i was skeptic, but now after seeing it for myself i realize they were not bluffing. it's a true as it can be. i was bored afte playing a week. even the free rpg runescape dev had a better grasp of the rpg genre. if you like to do repeatitive questing with NPC and no player interactions, then this game is totally for you. its just a waste of your time.

paravion · May 2005

"So you may ask, "How well has Blizzard delivered on their monthly content updates?" The simple answer is: they haven't. In fact, a couple months post launch some players challenged Blizzard as to their promise on scheduled updates. Official Blizzard posters denied making such claims but were quickly pointed to their own website where, in plain text, monthly content updates were promised. After some backtracking Blizzard announced that they would not be able to keep to a definitive content update schedule. " David Souza, article The Progression of the Game, 4/26/05.

Kidd · May 2005

You're right, WoW is pretty much just a pimped out Runescape.

Gravestoned · May 2005

Sigh, I hate you people!

1: You cant reach lvl 60 in a week, it is impossible (even if you dont have a life). It takes atleast 2-3 weeks (and thats if you really dont have a life).

2: # of Class Types vary for different realms.

3: WoW has only been out since November, give Blizzard some time to update the game (the honour system came out, so thats a good start).

4: I dont see how selling to vendors is either boring or exciting, its just to make money . Selling in the AH is same thing pretty much, except you can rip ppl off .

5: To truly have fun in WoW, you need to PvP. If you suck at PvP, you are missing out .

6: The quests are not boring. Although there is the familiar "Kill 10 boars, and 5 Wolfs" it is still fun (well atleast to me, I like to kill things ). Some may take long but -- in the end -- are rewarding.

7: The game is limitless (to me personally). I dont care what ppl say about this, but to me I feel like even at lvl 60 I still have to accomplish many things.

8: The instances are fun and exciting, and very rewarding. The Deadmines are the best.

9: I have no idea what you are talking about when you say your the only toy in the world... I never ran into that probleml; there are tons of ppl.

10: Every game is a waste of time.

gargantroo · May 2005

Im pretty sure you could have reached 60 in a week if you didnt sleep. Thank god the guy who reached 60 in a week did quit, he needs to get a life LOL ::::02::

Veiled_light · May 2005

yeh it was crap

One guy got lvl 60 in 9 days of release

Blizzagen · May 2005

Not taking sides or anything, but this game is aimed at casual players. If you are a hardcore player, then of course you're going to get to 60 quickly.

So the 'How quickly you can get to level 60' arguement is kind of pointless IMO.

paravion · May 2005

actually i did not get to level 60 in a week. i was just saying questing in a week is boring because it is repeatitive and you do not interact with other players unless you are involved in pvp or group fights against NPC. but you are right ... it is designed for casual players. leveling is too easy...everything you make is for yourself really and the economy flow between players is very minimal. this is the main reason why i don't like about the game. i rather have a rich economy game that is solely player driven. but this game still lacks innovation and depth. it could get repeatitive and all it is about is killing NPC or other players. again, as other players point out, this game is designed for casual players who just want a good time with friends in a virtual world.

mvin · May 2005

Originally posted by paravion

you will see that the population is mostly made up of rogues, mages, and priests, while the druids, warlocks, and hunters are outnumbered.

I dunno what server you have been on, but its different on my server thats for certain...

I Play on alliance and the majority there are Hunters/Paladins/warriors/rogues and the minority on server is Warlocks/Priests/Druids/mages..

jackman11118 · May 2005

Originally posted by Gravestoned

Sigh, I hate you people!
1: You cant reach lvl 60 in a week, it is impossible (even if you dont have a life). It takes atleast 2-3 weeks (and thats if you really dont have a life).
um, yes you can. ever heard of people in closed beta? they know everything about the game. they know where to go for all the quests.
2: # of Class Types vary for different realms.
probably true, but theres more hunters and rogues on more than 70% of the servers.
3: WoW has only been out since November, give Blizzard some time to update the game (the honour system came out, so thats a good start).
ive seen more patches in MXO than WoW ever gave me. and i would rather have it so WoW didnt patch, becuase when they do, they screw up the servers.
4: I dont see how selling to vendors is either boring or exciting, its just to make money . Selling in the AH is same thing pretty much, except you can rip ppl off .
5: To truly have fun in WoW, you need to PvP. If you suck at PvP, you are missing out .
get ganked buy a massive load of people trying to get honour points? no thanks.
6: The quests are not boring. Although there is the familiar "Kill 10 boars, and 5 Wolfs" it is still fun (well atleast to me, I like to kill things ). Some may take long but -- in the end -- are rewarding.
the quests are boring. they combat isnt even fun to watch (other than the spells, they did those quite well.) but melee is boring, ranged is boring. theres like 2 animations for the hunters gun shot, which is the only thing you see the whole game. then theres maybe 5 different usefull animations. thats pretty boring.
7: The game is limitless (to me personally). I dont care what ppl say about this, but to me I feel like even at lvl 60 I still have to accomplish many things.
8: The instances are fun and exciting, and very rewarding. The Deadmines are the best.
9: I have no idea what you are talking about when you say your the only toy in the world... I never ran into that probleml; there are tons of ppl.
10: Every game is a waste of time.

neschria · May 2005

[quote]Originally posted by paravion
[b]why?
its very mediocre. i can't believe i waste money on this one. i must say the free rpg called runescape [url=http://www.runescape.com] is better than this blizzard mirage. as you level, its all some lame-ass questing along with buying new skills. NO JOKE. see if for yourself and you'll be disappointed like me. the economy is not player driven. its NPC driven. at low levels, you sell your stuff to NPC vendors, how boring is that? and later at a higher level, you will usually sell the godly weapons, rare recipes, and loots they drop to other players via auctions. the world is a complete toy as they claimed. it is a toy and only 1 because i am sick of playing with only 1 toy while other rpgs often more than 1 toy in a world. it's 80% pve and 20% pvp. and the classes are not balanced, some classes like rogues, hunters, warlocks are unwanted and some are wanted. some classes are overpowered. you will see that the population is mostly made up of rogues, mages, and priests, while the druids, warlocks, and hunters are outnumbered. some people claimed this game is not going to last long. at first i was skeptic, but now after seeing it for myself i realize they were not bluffing. it's a true as it can be. i was bored afte playing a week. even the free rpg runescape dev had a better grasp of the rpg genre. if you like to do repeatitive questing with NPC and no player interactions, then this game is totally for you. its just a waste of your time.[/b][/quote]

Most of what you hated about the game was what I liked, although I don't see how you can say that there is no player interaction unless you never got out of your newbie area. Where I play, it is a very social game.

And I rather thought that everyone and their brother was a hunter or a warlock, while priests seem pretty rare. Maybe that's a cultural difference between servers. *shrug*

Classicstar · May 2005

I played on agamaggan and i was in 3 weeks lvl60 frost mages solo most .

I dont like community immature morons wel on horde side that is not all but most.

WoW is super simple most quest indeed boring as hell.

PVP is made for casual players not realy a chellenge but can be sometimes fun.

Most instance are identical or look like how some ares or towns are outside in playing world stratholme is just made of village like outside eastern plaguelands lol put alot of mobs inside and just go kill.(barones before patch was btw fun posseded sheep posseded sheep untill barones was dead lol.

Epic items to easy to get to many drops so not realy rare anymore everyday selling jordands wardens freezing band rings and many other epic items so now so many have them its not special to have epics there mediocre items.

Ive played wow in us close beta ive played wow in euro open beta and played at launch in europe from day3 and im still playing wow lol.

Why? while i say wow is very simple manytimes boring and pvp mediocre,becouse world looks great pvp can be fun if you know how and some instance are nice to do and if you play with right people its also social nice to play but its absolutely not for hardcore ( i am but waiting for mmorpg that real aply to hardcore and at moment dunno witch one i like to play )so wow it is.

Have fun whatever you play!

Alexy · May 2005

10: Every game is a waste of time.

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I dont think so...reasonable entertaining is not a waste of time!

There are always a limit for doing something.

malo7000 · May 2005

Originally posted by Gravestoned
5: To truly have fun in WoW, you need to PvP. If you suck at PvP, you are missing out .

Lmfao you have to be kidding, wow has one of the worst pvp systems i have ever seen. I stopped playing in january at lvl 54 Tauren warrior after realising that the game is over at 60, and that pvp will be totally useless and stupid. Battlegrounds made me choose to stop because for me (hardcore pvper) Battlegrounds was the only highlight of the game, town raids are totally useless because they do no damage at all, and theyre impossible because of the sissy guard spawn rates implemented by blizzard to please noobs. After the battlegrounds preview came out i realized that its going to be no better than a regular town raid like astranaar or whatever that nightelf town in ashenvale is called.
1. Its a instance
2. After destruction of enemy town in 3 hours the town rebuilds??!?!??!?!
3. A Limit of people.
4. The town is of no use to enemey faction making the raid be absolutely useless.

In conclusion wow is ofcourse better than Runescape, however if u gave Runescape the same graphics, Runescape would beat the crap out of wow.

paravion · May 2005

Originally posted by malo7000

Originally posted by Gravestoned
5: To truly have fun in WoW, you need to PvP. If you suck at PvP, you are missing out .

Lmfao you have to be kidding, wow has one of the worst pvp systems i have ever seen. I stopped playing in january at lvl 54 Tauren warrior after realising that the game is over at 60, and that pvp will be totally useless and stupid. Battlegrounds made me choose to stop because for me (hardcore pvper) Battlegrounds was the only highlight of the game, town raids are totally useless because they do no damage at all, and theyre impossible because of the sissy guard spawn rates implemented by blizzard to please noobs. After the battlegrounds preview came out i realized that its going to be no better than a regular town raid like astranaar or whatever that nightelf town in ashenvale is called.
1. Its a instance
2. After destruction of enemy town in 3 hours the town rebuilds??!?!??!?!
3. A Limit of people.
4. The town is of no use to enemey faction making the raid be absolutely useless.

In conclusion wow is ofcourse better than Runescape, however if u gave Runescape the same graphics, Runescape would beat the crap out of wow.

totally agree with you, runescape just lack the graphics but it does offer a good pvp system. going back to wow, i think all areas should be contested and if there are raids, noobs should just hide indoors...just that simple. that'll be some fun

Edaru · May 2005

Compairing Runescape to WoW is like compairing a rotten bananna to a ripe apple. Sure they're different, but you'll barf if you eat the banana. I played Runescape for MONTHS, and YES, it was an awsome game. Now, I've moved on to World of Warcraft, possibly the most exciting, fast passed game I've played online. Runescape does have more player-interaction. Why? Because they cram 1,500 people into a tiny little world. World of Warcraft gets nearly the same player interaction, just with a huge world where you can get yourself lost and alone in. Yes, I agree, they need a more "player driven" economy. But Blizzard has put together the largest, most worthwhile game I've ever seen. As the game evolves, I believe the economy will become more player driven. I'd like to see a way to trade items with off-worlders, probably for a fee (like the mailing system), to help stimulate player-to-player trading, but easily trading with people became a problem with Runescape. If you play for a few hours, doing repetative things, eventually you can sell those for enormous amounts of gold. It really wasn't worth the effort - you got no real graphics. I'd rather play WoW any day over RS.

paravion · May 2005

yes you are true...when i turn back to runescape the other day i want to puke because of the lame graphics. but i miss the old gameplay, its pvp system in the wildie and the dueling in which the winner wins the bet and takes the loser's bet. runescape's economy is player driven and it's the main point to make a lame graphics game to live till today. in fact runescape's subscribers and players are increasing exponentially every month and this is due solely to its attractive economy driven gameplay and its pvp system in the wildie. this is how their pvp system works. players in level 1 wildie can only attack other players +1 or -1 their level. players in level 40 wildie can attack players +40 or -40 their level. if you die, you lose all the stuff you wear. therefore, you have to be good at pvp to not lose your items. i think in wow u should at least lose something in pvp as a punishment....

j-monster · May 2005

Originally posted by paravion

why?
its very mediocre. i can't believe i waste money on this one. i must say the free rpg called runescape http://www.runescape.com is better than this blizzard mirage. as you level, its all some lame-ass questing along with buying new skills. NO JOKE. see if for yourself and you'll be disappointed like me. the economy is not player driven. its NPC driven. at low levels, you sell your stuff to NPC vendors, how boring is that? and later at a higher level, you will usually sell the godly weapons, rare recipes, and loots they drop to other players via auctions. the world is a complete toy as they claimed. it is a toy and only 1 because i am sick of playing with only 1 toy while other rpgs often more than 1 toy in a world. it's 80% pve and 20% pvp. and the classes are not balanced, some classes like rogues, hunters, warlocks are unwanted and some are wanted. some classes are overpowered. you will see that the population is mostly made up of rogues, mages, and priests, while the druids, warlocks, and hunters are outnumbered. some people claimed this game is not going to last long. at first i was skeptic, but now after seeing it for myself i realize they were not bluffing. it's a true as it can be. i was bored afte playing a week. even the free rpg runescape dev had a better grasp of the rpg genre. if you like to do repeatitive questing with NPC and no player interactions, then this game is totally for you. its just a waste of your time.

I read about the first two setences because then i had a seizure.

Beacuse its just to stupid to continue.

You basically complained about having to level...in a mmo

and you basically left warriors out of the popoulation

as there is TONS of those around

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