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The devs have been working constantly on bringing a huge content patch which will likely be live tonight or tomorrow the way things are looking. There's a big wipe coming along with the patch which is why a lot of us haven't been in game, but for those of you interested, there's going to be lots of people online for you to play with. This new patch is fixing many of the bugs and bringing in a whole new construction system, which is going to add lots and lots of stuff to do. If anyone was sketchy about preordering the game to get access to the beta, now would be the time to getting around to doing that. If you do, PM me and let me know you're getting the game. My tribe is always looking for new people, and we already have a city set up 
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After their mis-launch and cash-grab 6-months ago, I kinda lost interest. Their doing another wipe and so I take it that the game isnt launched yet?
It hasn't launched yet. Though they haven't given a new launch date since they missed the one in August, the lead dev said yesterday that his best guess was another month or two before it releases.
Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.
Yeah, I've only been into the game about two or 3 weeks now. It's got lots of potential
The delayed release is probably just some programming snags, stuff happens like that when coding such a complex game.
http://www.xsyon.com/forums/5-announcements/29496-xsyon-update#33425
It wasn't programming snags - it's just that the game wasn't anywhere near as ready as they were trying to make it appear. When they were starting their pre-order push last March, they were making it appear that it was going to be ready on 15 April. The first delay was only one month long, to 15 May, again presumably because it was so close to being done. It's 7 months and 4 missed release dates later, and it's still got 1 or 2 months to go (at least). They were WAY off.
That's not due to snags. That's due to the fact that they weren't anywhere near done with it, and they were being deceptive about it. They were so uncertain about what they were doing, they stopped giving release dates completely - they'll let us know at least a week out now.
This is nothing new. NG doesn't like to refer to the game's current status as what it is - a pay-to-play beta. They are trying to call it "early access", even though it doesn't fit the commonly accepted definition of such.
They're also going to call the launch "Prelude", which is the built-in excuse they will use for the game being incomplete when it releases. "It's not a launch, it's Prelude - the game is still "evolving"."
I agree that the game has some very good potential. But, Notorious has suffered from the same incompetence and inexperience that affect most small indie companies. They've also been pretty deceptive with their use of semantics.
Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.
So..... is it worth it?
The crafting/salvaging/building parts really intrigue me, but the combat looks horrible. Basicly is it worth the 40 bucks?
I've seen this deplorable behavior before with them calling it a "Soft Release" It's not a full release so we're not liable for saying it's absolutley complete
Yeah...sure you're not...
I really wanted to support them as I've a soft spot for indy devs. But, as stated in previous posts, the game wasn't anywhere near the state they claimed at the time. They lead us to believe it was near release when it would have been hard pushed to call it an alpha or tech demo.
That said, when I asked for my pre-order to be refunded, they did with no problems so they deserve credit for that. I'm not sure if I'd ever be tempted to pick up the game on the proper release, but then I've become rather more jaded about games in general these days.
Yeah they promise the moon and you expect the Lunar moon and yet all you seem to get from them is childish laughter with them mooning you
Meh, it's not really P2P since you don't pay a monthly fee during beta. And you get two months free after launch, so basically you pay a little more than two months in advance to test the game and such.
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It's pay to play in that you must preorder the game at full price to get into the beta. That's what is commonly termed a "pay-to-play beta".
They've decided to call it "early access", which is not exactly the industry standard.
The two months as part of the purchase price is one of the better deals going, and the price is certainly reasonable.
Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.
Maybe this game is really the MO2 patch those devs were talking about?
It really sucks, I would love to see a good Sandbox come into the scene, ESPECIALLY an Post-Apoc one.
/sigh
Maybe one day
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I think this could very well be a good post-apoc sandbox game. Like most MMOs, Xsyon has its problems, and it has its good points. In my opinion, it has some very good design concepts behind it. The game is still forming, with major rules having been very recently implemented, and they have yet to implement others, so it's been hard to tell exactly what it'll turn out like.
It's probably best to keep expectations within the realm of reality - and that goes for any MMO.
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At this point, that's what I have a hard time with and the reason I won't "play" Xsyon. It's a paid beta and I oppose paying for beta access.
@Rohn, regarding "early access" - you're right, it's not the industry standard. "Early access" typically means you get in a few days before everybody else does as a reward for your pre-order, not actual beta. Also, since early access isn't normally granted until the game has been certified launch-ready, there generally aren't wipes during the early access period.
Xyson has a ton of promise, looks really interesting and has devs that seem to communicate fairly well with it's player base. Notorious has also reportedly granted refunds to all who've requested them, which is the right thing to do. Even though I refuse to pay for beta, I continue to be interested in the game and will follow it's progress.
~Ripper
*edit* Sorry for the text wall, I kinda ramble when I'm tired.
The game has advanced a lot since you guys have likely played it. Construction is in, the tribe system will be given much more depth come the next content patch (in the next week) along with many new recipes for all professions. Now that a lot of the major bugs have been fixed, they can start rolling out a lot of the new content fairly quickly. Agriculture, pets, mounts(I'm pretty sure), supply carts, custom buildings, etc. is all planned for the not so distant future. If you take a look at the feature list on the main site, most if not all of them will be in the game come release time (I say this because I'm not sure how up to date the list is, but you can assume that the majority of it will all be there). The population isn't that great because its still early beta but if you hook up with a tribe (ask about mine if you're interested in playing, no need in explaining if noone is interested) that's active you can get a good amount of meaningful gameplay in.
And to the discussion about being "pay to beta"--if you look at it in a cost effective way, check this out. You get 2 free months of gameplay when the game releases, which is roughly 30 bucks if you go with the average 14.99/mo sub fee most sub games have. If I remember right, you can pay right now for 40 bucks, so that means your paying 10 bucks for the actual game itself and also two months of playtime when it comes out. I feel like I've read around on the official forums and seen hints that people that do purchase beta access will be given some sort of tangible bonus in the game upon release aside from play time, but don't quote me on that. Yeah, it's unusual to pay for beta, I'll give you that. However, I'll bet the reason most of you even know about this game is because your a fan of sandbox games. And lets be honest, all sandboxes to date have blown. Like many of you are saying, this game has got some serious potential and I'm ok with supporting the devs early on to help them push out an amazing game. The one cool thing about these devs is that they're very in touch with the community. They, unlike most developers, actually listen to all the suggestions people make on the forums and frequently reply giving their opinion and/or decision on the suggestion. They're also not about to push out a game that isn't ready. That's why the game has been pushed back, because they're actually spending their time on it and making sure its actually ready to be released before they do so.
Have a look around the official Xsyon forums if you want, I'm sure you'll find some stuff that'll interest you. Remember that you can't see most of the forums because you don't have an active game account. There's wayyyy more activity in the paid section of the forums (not to say there isn't elsewhere). I encourage you guys to take a risk and buy the game. People have said in this thread and others here on MMORPG.com that they've gotten refunds relatively easily so you can back out if you wish (again, don't quote me, but it seems like that's the case from what people are saying). If you want to join up with a great group of people and play this awesome game, find me (same account name) on the official Xsyon forums and shoot me a PM, I'd be glad to help you get started
We have a city built (well, a wipe the other day is making us start from scratch again, but we're rebuilding fairly quickly) already and have a great infrastructure that's working very very well thus far. The city is looking really sweet now that we have construction implemented and we're always looking for new members, so come on over. Like I said, if you do want to buy the game and check out a good tribe, find me on the forums and shoot me a PM. We're always looking for new members (on that note, as tribe membership grows, the tribe's area of control grows!) and have room for all playstyles 
It's great you like the game and are enthusiastic about it. That's fantastic, IMO, and it's not my place to tell you not to be. Personally, I'm interested in Xsyon and am following it. That being said. I tend to be a little more skeptical, especially given Notorious' track record, so far.
It's obvious Notorious is working hard on Xyson and I wish them success. At the same time, I'm content to just wait and see what happens. Enough people were already enticed into buying a game that was supposed to originally launch in March, 2010, has been pushed back a few times and now has no clear ETA on go live.
If and when the game actually launches, i'll be interested in checking it out.
~Ripper
Well, I might as start with something said by someone from their website, "its not what you think". Now is that a good or bad thing? Depends, on how you look at the game really. Personally I think the game has alot of potential to become a good sand box given time. But the more i look into the more it does seem it could possibily be a scam. Not saying it is, but ppl were right, where the fuck did this game come from. It just popped up, no info on this Notarious Games which sounds fishy itself. And also on the log in screen it says IDY which means what? Seems like it was put in there to through you off and just assume its a indy game. But is it legit?
If you read they're forums, and play the game, you'll realize its the same guy or 2 posting shit, havning conversations with themselves? lol c'on now seems shady how some would do that, it would have been alot better if the devs where just open and clear about things. Cuz really its not that bad of a game, but something just seems off about it.
The game realisticly is 6 months away from release. The feature list is ambitous and if they can get it all this could be a great game. But how many people are really testing it? It seems like its one tribe rolling around as other tribes, right kitsume? lol This tribe could easily be the developers themselfs which is what i suspect, and if it is I wonder why try to hide this?
Not tryin to push anyone away, but like i said It's not what you think and i really do hope this legit and they are actually working on releaseing it. If so why not be more open with everything. I'll continue to beta test for a couple daysmore before i decide to do a complete system wipe to cover my ass or maybe I'll continue on who knows.
I've seen quite a few xsyon videos but none of them include combat let alone pvp. What's wrong?
As far as I know, combat and pvp haven't really been perfected yet. The systems in place are in a way "place holders" for what is to come. Everyone is working on testing other areas of the game right now (construction, crafts, terraforming [shaping the terrain], etc). Many of the major bugs have finally been fixed so we're anticipating lots of content patches coming up pretty soon and PvP will have more depth and functionality to it when the time comes. PvP and combat as far as I know isn't on the top of the priority list but by no means is low priority. If you like you could email him (the email is somewhere on the website) and ask him that way. He's fairly fast with responding to emails so you'd likely have a reply within 24 hours.
If they are giving refunds, I don't think labelling it as a scam is fair or accurate. Was in poor judgment of them to set such an early release date and take preorders with an unfinished product, but IMO by reimbursing anyone who opted out while everyone else seems to be aware of the situation and willing to wait things out, its unorthodox but considerably honest and open.
I'm still keeping an eye on this game but not holding my breath. A lot of key features don't appear to be implemented yet, but the more ambitious teraforming stuff apparently is and they're focusing on perfecting that before moving on to combat. People in CB, keep us updated and hopefully it will become clear in the coming months whether the Xsyon team has bitten off more than they can chew. While things are moving at a slower pace than they had anticipated themselves, it doesn't mean this game won't launch in a good state.
I don't know...I preordered it when the first talk about Xsyon came to the mmorpg.com forums, but...I was really disappointed. When I tried the game, it was in a very, VERY rough state. I would say alpha at best. I can understand that many indie games have a rocky start and I didn't expect much, but what I saw was underwhelming. I do see potential in the ideas and they seem to actually listen to their players. But I wouldn't recommend it yet. It needs some time to polish the whole thing up. I would say wait a year and then come back to take another look.
I didnt really say its a scam, just possibly? I just dont trust this company to have the game installed on my computer, cant really find much legit background info. And I didnt test it when it first came out a but i can say roughly 2 weeks or a 1week ago, they were busy testing teraforming, and building on tribe lands. Tribes functions are now in but you need 5 ppl to claim a spot. They were working out crashes when crossing node lines as terraformin on tribe lands was going on. Then there was a wipe shortly after i discovered some hidden "test tribes" and after i killed someone and looted them (suspect it to be an alt of an old tribe member or a dev) i ran into the radiated zone, and crashed(or got booted). The next day there was a wipe which cleared all the test tribe land and structures up, i suspect. It was said that there would be one more wipe before release so.......was that it?
They still need to improve on combat, i believe this might be next on there list. It aint too bad right now alot better than the old vids i saw but still needs work. So according to their list heres a few things they need b4 release such as improve combat, cooking, taming, AI creatures that multate in the radiated zones, mounts and some other things. Cuttin trees down is fun I'll keep an eye on this if it ever launches.