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9800 GT 512 VS GTX 285

airicairic Member Posts: 16

Hey guys I currently have a 9800 gt 512 in my system but I have the opportunity to get a GTX 285 for real cheap, is this going to be a huge performanced boost?

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  • BenthonBenthon Member Posts: 2,069

    Depends if your CPU can handle it and, more importantly, your PSU. If those two things are good, then yea, it'll be quite the signficant gain because the GTX 285 is a whole generation (GT200b) ahead as well as in the top-end of that generation.

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  • BarbarbarBarbarbar Member UncommonPosts: 271

    "real cheap" most likely makes it worth it.

  • sungodrasungodra Member Posts: 1,376

    Originally posted by Benthon

    Depends if your CPU can handle it and, more importantly, your PSU. If those two things are good, then yea, it'll be quite the signficant gain because the GTX 285 is a whole generation (GT200b) ahead as well as in the top-end of that generation.

     GTX 285 vs 460?

     

     

    I want to buy a 460, how is the 285 when compared to this one?

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  • cybertruckercybertrucker Member UncommonPosts: 1,117

    The gains will be minimal as seen when looking at benchmarks. More power efficient. More shaders but really in Framerates no gain. Save a little longer and get a better upgrade.. I honestly think this would be wasting money.

    Remember the 9800 was the top of the line of the previous generation. The 285 was pretty much bottom barrel. Usually the top of the line still beats the bottom barrel in some benchmark tests.

  • BenthonBenthon Member Posts: 2,069

    Originally posted by cybertrucker

    The gains will be minimal as seen when looking at benchmarks. More power efficient. More shaders but really in Framerates no gain. Save a little longer and get a better upgrade.. I honestly think this would be wasting money.

    Remember the 9800 was the top of the line of the previous generation. The 285 was pretty much bottom barrel. Usually the top of the line still beats the bottom barrel in some benchmark tests.

     Uh.. what?  The 9xxx series was a spinoff and retweaking of the 8xxx series, basically just trying to save money. The GT isn't even the "enthusiast market". The GTX 285 was the strongest single-GPU that was in the 200 series. The frame rate gains will be noticeable at all levels. The 9800 GT isn't even on the same level as the GTX 285 and the GTX 285 still performs almost every game today at great frames and high resolutions.

    Completely wrong. Don't listen to this fella. :)

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  • BenthonBenthon Member Posts: 2,069

    Originally posted by sungodra

    Originally posted by Benthon

    Depends if your CPU can handle it and, more importantly, your PSU. If those two things are good, then yea, it'll be quite the signficant gain because the GTX 285 is a whole generation (GT200b) ahead as well as in the top-end of that generation.

     GTX 285 vs 460?

     

     

    I want to buy a 460, how is the 285 when compared to this one?

     I'd personally get a GTX 460. It's down to $120 after MIR compared to the $330 GTX 285 and it's better performance in most games.

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  • sungodrasungodra Member Posts: 1,376

    Originally posted by Benthon

    Originally posted by cybertrucker

    The gains will be minimal as seen when looking at benchmarks. More power efficient. More shaders but really in Framerates no gain. Save a little longer and get a better upgrade.. I honestly think this would be wasting money.

    Remember the 9800 was the top of the line of the previous generation. The 285 was pretty much bottom barrel. Usually the top of the line still beats the bottom barrel in some benchmark tests.

     Uh.. what?  The 9xxx series was a spinoff and retweaking of the 8xxx series, basically just trying to save money. The GT isn't even the "enthusiast market". The GTX 285 was the strongest single-GPU that was in the 200 series. The frame rate gains will be noticeable at all levels. The 9800 GT isn't even on the same level as the GTX 285 and the GTX 285 still performs almost every game today at great frames and high resolutions.

     nevermind you answerd my question. Better performance and cheaper card.. 460 win hands down for me.

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  • cybertruckercybertrucker Member UncommonPosts: 1,117

    I was actually thinking of the 240... the 285 is the top of the line for that series.. Sorry about that the 240 was bottom barrel. and is actually slower than the previous generations top of the line as I stated before. I

    here are benchmark tests to prove.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2010-gaming-graphics-charts-high-quality/compare,2465.html?prod%5B4519%5D=on&prod%5B4543%5D=on&prod%5B4539%5D=on

  • cybertruckercybertrucker Member UncommonPosts: 1,117

    and ya its still early.. I just woke up haha.

  • sungodrasungodra Member Posts: 1,376

    Originally posted by cybertrucker

    I was actually thinking of the 240... the 285 is the top of the line for that series.. Sorry about that the 240 was bottom barrel. and is actually slower than the previous generations top of the line as I stated before. I

    here are benchmark tests to prove.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2010-gaming-graphics-charts-high-quality/compare,2465.html?prod%5B4519%5D=on&prod%5B4543%5D=on&prod%5B4539%5D=on

     Then no, keep your 9800 or get a better card that is inexpensive... 460., 465 or something...

     

    BTW I got a 9800gtx+ and it still works with all games pretty damn good. Only problem is it is on its way to the factory for RMA, but Ill get a new or refurbished one in return.  LOL hopefully they dont have any 9800 and give me something better 260 or something

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  • BenthonBenthon Member Posts: 2,069

    Originally posted by sungodra

    Originally posted by Benthon

    Originally posted by cybertrucker

    The gains will be minimal as seen when looking at benchmarks. More power efficient. More shaders but really in Framerates no gain. Save a little longer and get a better upgrade.. I honestly think this would be wasting money.

    Remember the 9800 was the top of the line of the previous generation. The 285 was pretty much bottom barrel. Usually the top of the line still beats the bottom barrel in some benchmark tests.

     Uh.. what?  The 9xxx series was a spinoff and retweaking of the 8xxx series, basically just trying to save money. The GT isn't even the "enthusiast market". The GTX 285 was the strongest single-GPU that was in the 200 series. The frame rate gains will be noticeable at all levels. The 9800 GT isn't even on the same level as the GTX 285 and the GTX 285 still performs almost every game today at great frames and high resolutions.

     so 285 is still kind of expensive.. what about the 460? Does it perform better than 285.. You would think the more expensive one would perform better.

     Such is not the case at all in the computer market. Dell still sells laptops with Core2Duo's equipped in them at i3 and i5 prices. It's simply trying to catch uninformed folks that have that exact mindset. The chips still costed that much to make and so they're not going to drop the prices. The GTX 460 is on a brand new architecture (GF104) with a crapload of features that come with every new architecture (smaller die, GDDR5, etc.).

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  • BenthonBenthon Member Posts: 2,069

    Originally posted by cybertrucker

    I was actually thinking of the 240... the 285 is the top of the line for that series.. Sorry about that the 240 was bottom barrel. and is actually slower than the previous generations top of the line as I stated before. I

    here are benchmark tests to prove.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2010-gaming-graphics-charts-high-quality/compare,2465.html?prod%5B4519%5D=on&prod%5B4543%5D=on&prod%5B4539%5D=on

     Well of course! The GT 240 is a mainstream released card. As those benchmarks clearly show, the GTX 285 wins by a large margin.

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  • BenthonBenthon Member Posts: 2,069



    Originally posted by sungodra


    Originally posted by cybertrucker
    I was actually thinking of the 240... the 285 is the top of the line for that series.. Sorry about that the 240 was bottom barrel. and is actually slower than the previous generations top of the line as I stated before. I
    here are benchmark tests to prove.
    http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2010-gaming-graphics-charts-high-quality/compare,2465.html?prod%5B4519%5D=on&prod%5B4543%5D=on&prod%5B4539%5D=on

     Then no, keep your 9800 or get a better card that is inexpensive... 460., 465 or something...
     
    BTW I got a 9800gtx+ and it still works with all games pretty damn good. Only problem is it is on its way to the factory for RMA, but Ill get a new or refurbished one in return.  LOL hopefully they dont have any 9800 and give me something better 260 or something

    Unless the guy is offering the GTX 285 at much less than a GTX 460's price, I'd say go for it. Otherwise, just buy a GTX 460.

    He who keeps his cool best wins.

  • sungodrasungodra Member Posts: 1,376

    Originally posted by Benthon

     






     

     

    Unless the guy is offering the GTX 285 at much less than a GTX 460's price, I'd say go for it. Otherwise, just buy a GTX 460.

     I thought he meant that he made a mistake and the cheap card is the 240 which would make more sense.

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  • airicairic Member Posts: 16

    The guy is offering me the 285 for $100. is the 460 a better performing card?

  • BenthonBenthon Member Posts: 2,069

    Originally posted by sungodra

    Originally posted by Benthon

     






     

     

    Unless the guy is offering the GTX 285 at much less than a GTX 460's price, I'd say go for it. Otherwise, just buy a GTX 460.

     I thought he meant that he made a mistake and the cheap card is the 240 which would make more sense.

     Well, yea. It's 7AM here and I've been up all night! Gimmie a break. The GT 240 is a clear downgrade from the 9800GT.

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  • BenthonBenthon Member Posts: 2,069

    Originally posted by airic

    The guy is offering me the 285 for $100. is the 460 a better performing card?

     I'd personally buy a GTX 460. It has zero wear and tear, has a good warranty if you buy the right brand and comes with all the accessories you could possibly need for it.

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  • sungodrasungodra Member Posts: 1,376

    Originally posted by airic

    The guy is offering me the 285 for $100. is the 460 a better performing card?

     285 for 100 dollars?

     

    yea it's a better performing card but not by much...  100 dollars sounds like a sweet deal.  It will have the warranty and everything?

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  • BenthonBenthon Member Posts: 2,069

    Originally posted by sungodra

    Originally posted by airic

    The guy is offering me the 285 for $100. is the 460 a better performing card?

     285 for 100 dollars?

     

    yea it's a better performing card but not by much...  100 dollars sounds like a sweet deal.  It will have the warranty and everything?

     If he's selling it for $100, it's probably been personally used by him for some time.

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  • airicairic Member Posts: 16

    Which card is better in performance. I'm playing Darkfall right now and it kicks my 9800's butt.

  • sungodrasungodra Member Posts: 1,376

    Originally posted by Benthon

    Originally posted by sungodra

    Originally posted by airic

    The guy is offering me the 285 for $100. is the 460 a better performing card?

     285 for 100 dollars?

     

    yea it's a better performing card but not by much...  100 dollars sounds like a sweet deal.  It will have the warranty and everything?

     If he's selling it for $100, it's probably been personally used by him for some time.

     That's the only thing that i would be concerned about, but tbh if you want the good 460 1gb you will have to pay around 200 dollars for it...  If the 285 had a warranty on it I would take it...

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  • sungodrasungodra Member Posts: 1,376

    Originally posted by airic

    Which card is better in performance. I'm playing Darkfall right now and it kicks my 9800's butt.

     Darkfall? LOL how could that game kick your 9800's butt?  Maybe I am mistaken it for another game?  Darkfall is that game with the loot  player corpse in it righ?

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,955

    Well, it does seem like a significant boost.

    Here is a chart that seems pretty good.

    http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

     

    I currently have a gtx 260 (which I suppose is slightly lower than that GTX 285 and it's an amazing card.

    I can run most things with all bells and whistles. Well, of course there are other factors involved as others are saying.

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  • airicairic Member Posts: 16

    During large PVP fights my FPS tank. what do you guys think of the gtx 260 maxcore?

  • airicairic Member Posts: 16

    let me say that Darkfall is the first game this card has ever struggled with.

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